Last Tuesday, voters across the country approved measures to protect abortion rights, while rejecting the presidential candidate who claimed to champion those same rights.

Kate Zernike, who covers the issue for The Times, explains that gap and what it tells us about the new politics of abortion.

Guest: Kate Zernike, a national reporter at The New York Times, writing most recently about abortion.

Background reading: 

• Abortion rights ballot measures succeeded in seven of the 10 states where they were proposed.
• President-elect Donald J. Trump has distanced himself from the idea of a federal abortion ban, but will face pressure to enact one. Here’s how it could happen.

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.

Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.