In this episode we explore the controversy surrounding Shambala Festival, a long-standing 100% vegetarian event that recently sparked debate by proposing something unexpected: adding “sustainably sourced venison” to its menu. In the second half, we react to Shawn Baker’s advice to his younger self: “Never get fat and never stop training.” We also look at Paul Saladino’s shift from strict carnivore to including fruit and carbohydrates, and what that says about evolving ideas in nutrition, metabolic health, and scientific humility.