Sales Is King
Sales Is King

Sales Is King

Dan Sixsmith

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The podcast, Sales is King, features interviews with sales and marketing leaders who share their insights on the latest trends and challenges in the B2B space. The podcast covers a wide range of topics, including AI, value selling, sales enablement, and personal branding. The guests offer actionable advice on how to succeed in today's competitive market. The podcast is popular with not only C-Level executives, but also thousands of sellers across multiple industries.

Recent Episodes

208: Jon Addison | CRO, Okta
DEC 1, 2025
208: Jon Addison | CRO, Okta
In this episode of Sales Is King, host Dan Sixsmith sits down with Jon Addison, Chief Revenue Officer at Okta, to unpack how identity is becoming mission-critical in a world of AI agents, distributed work, and rising security expectations. Jon shares how Okta is evolving from product to platform, why identity is central to securing AI, and what it really takes to lead large, global go-to-market organizations today. The conversation ranges from AI ROI and agent security to sales leadership, relationship selling in a post‑pandemic world, and Jon’s unconventional path from door‑to‑door sales and technical roles into the CRO seat.Key TopicsOkta’s mission and why identity sits at the center of security and AI. The early, messy phase of AI and agents and why standardization and consolidation are coming. How Okta thinks about securing AI agents for 20,000+ customers through policy, platform, and design. Moving from “product company” to “platform company” and what that means for GTM, partners, and customers. Jon’s view of the CRO role: being a change agent, driving parallel transformations, and balancing data with instinct. The “Formula to Win” (Focus, Compete, Lead) and the decision to specialize across Okta and Auth0 buying personas. Why enterprise selling is going “back to relationships” in an era of hyper‑informed, AI‑enabled buyers. Skill vs. art in sales: practice, rehearsal, and the X‑factor of human connection and courage. Methodologies, MEDDIC, and how frameworks and creativity can and should coexist. Jon’s career path: door‑to‑door sales, technical consulting, product management, Oracle, LinkedIn, and now Okta. How to think about talent, instincts, and building high‑performing, international sales teams. Jon’s definition of success: growth, unlocking potential in reps, and meaningful customer outcomes. HighlightsAI and agent deployments are still in early, fragmented stages, and most enterprises are experimenting without yet seeing consistent ROI—creating a big opening for vendors who can standardize and secure these environments. Okta sees AI agents much like cloud apps in the early days: scattered pilots that will eventually need centralized identity, policy, and governance—an area where its platforms are already embedded. The CRO role is fundamentally about being an empowered change agent: driving multiple transformation streams at once, building trust across functions, and having the courage to move fast without creating “one‑way doors.” Specialization across platforms (Okta vs. Auth0) and buying personas is unlocking deeper expertise, better customer conversations, and sharper competitive positioning. Enterprise sellers will increasingly face highly educated buyers who have already self‑researched with AI, which shifts the seller’s value from information transfer to relationship, insight, orchestration, and outcome design. World‑class sellers treat sales like a craft: they rehearse, review call recordings, seek coaching, and study both customers and industries the way elite athletes study film. Strong sales cultures blend a clear methodology and shared language with individual creativity, ambition, and “brave” outreach that truly differentiates the experience for customers. Guest Bio – Jon AddisonJon Addison is the Chief Revenue Officer at Okta, where he leads the global field organization and is responsible for driving worldwide growth. He brings over 20 years of sales leadership experience from roles at LinkedIn, Oracle, and other global technology firms, and is focused on building high‑performing teams, scaling platform‑led go‑to‑market motions, and helping customers modernize and secure identity in the age of AI.Connect with Jon and OktaJon on Okta’s leadership page: https://www.okta.com/company/leadership/jon-addison/ Okta newsroom and updates: https://www.okta.com/newsroom/ Connect with Dan Sixsmith & Sales Is KingDan Sixsmith on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dansixsmith/ 
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207: Marilee Bear | CRO, Gainsight
OCT 6, 2025
207: Marilee Bear | CRO, Gainsight
In this episode, host Dan Sixsmith interviews Marilee Bear the CRO at Gainsight. Marilee reflects on her first year at the helm, discussing the company’s impressive growth trajectory, recent strategic acquisitions, and the challenges and opportunities presented by a major leadership transition. Marilee shares actionable strategies for improving net revenue retention, such as leveraging data-driven insights, fostering cross-functional collaboration, and investing in customer education. The conversation also explores the impact of AI on sales processes. Marilee offers candid leadership insights, discussing the importance of transparency, adaptability, and building a culture of continuous learning. She also recounts her career journey, from her early ambitions and formative experiences to the pivotal moments that led her to lead a major SaaS company, offering advice for aspiring leaders in the tech industry.Timestamps:Welcome and Introductions (00:00:01) Dan welcomes Marilee Bear who reflects on her first year at Gainsight, company growth, and recent leadership changes.Company Growth, Acquisitions, and Leadership Transition (00:00:30) Marilee discusses acquisitions, repositioning Gainsight for growth, and the CEO transition from Nick Mehta to Chuck Apathy.Team Structure and Business Unit Model (00:02:04) Explanation of new hires, business unit model, and leadership structure within product and customer success teams.Integrating Customer Success into Revenue Organization (00:03:21) Describes shifting customer success under the revenue team and the industry trend of CS as a revenue driver.Defining Roles and Realigning the Revenue Team (00:05:25) Outlines the jobs-to-be-done exercise, clarifying roles across sales, CS, and other go-to-market functions.Customer Success as a Pipeline Engine (00:06:24) Details how CS now contributes to pipeline generation and the metrics used to measure CSM impact.Net Revenue Retention (NRR) Challenges (00:07:29) Discussion of industry-wide NRR declines and the need for strategic retention and value delivery.Retention Strategies and Multi-threading (00:08:21) Emphasizes proactive retention, business value demonstration, and multi-threading within customer organizations.Competitive Landscape and Expansion Focus (00:12:29) Explains how competition now includes internal build vs. buy, and the importance of expansion within existing customers.Convergence of Sales and Customer Success Roles (00:13:53) Observes the merging responsibilities of CS and sales, with CS teams adopting more sales-like approaches.State of B2B Sales and Impact of AI (00:14:25) Explores ongoing challenges in B2B sales, the impact of generative AI, and the need for business acumen.Reaching C-level Executives and Sales Best Practices (00:17:00) Shares the difficulty of accessing executives, the importance of detective work, and value-driven outreach.Effective Sales Outreach to Executives (00:19:12) Marilee describes what makes sales outreach compelling: offering choices, concise meetings, and understanding executive preferences.Marilee’s Career Journey (00:21:31) Covers her early ambitions, work history from restaurants to Oracle, Akamai, Zendesk, and her path to Gainsight.Retention and Customer Success Experience (00:25:54) Highlights her experience with retention at Akamai, building CS teams, and her initial exposure to Gainsight.Key Career Lessons and Leadership Growth (00:28:54) Shares lessons on authenticity, operational rigor, and the importance of direct feedback and self-improvement.Leadership Philosophy and Team Management (00:33:58) Discusses leading diverse teams, empathy, balancing encouragement with accountability, and fostering a feedback culture.Definition of Success (00:36:00) Marilee defines success as delivering the best outcomes for customers, company, and self, in that order.Closing Remarks (00:36:43) Dan thanks Marilee, wraps up the episode, and previews future collaborations.
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37 MIN
206: Sam Jacobs| CEO + Founder of Pavilion
AUG 21, 2025
206: Sam Jacobs| CEO + Founder of Pavilion
SummaryIn this episode, Dan Sixsmith interviews Sam Jacobs, CEO and founder of Pavilion, discussing his journey from working as a finance executive to building a thriving community for go-to-market executives. They explore the challenges faced by leaders in today's fast-paced environment, the importance of community, and the evolving landscape of sales and AI. Sam shares insights on the future of Pavilion, the role of media in building connections, and his personal definition of success.TakeawaysPavilion was born out of the need for community among go-to-market executives.Job security for senior leaders is decreasing, leading to increased anxiety.AI is transforming the sales landscape, but the need for community remains.Pavilion aims to equip operators with the tools and resources they need to succeed.The community has grown significantly, especially during the pandemic.Sam emphasizes the importance of having a strong network for job security.The future of sales will see a wider gap between great and average sellers.Pavilion is evolving to create an elite membership tier for experienced operators.Sam's success is defined by personal fulfillment, professional growth, and meaningful relationships.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Pavilion and Sam Jacobs03:02 The Journey to Pavilion: Early Ambitions and Experiences06:13 The Birth of Pavilion: From Idea to Community09:13 Navigating Challenges: The Role of Community in Uncertain Times12:03 The Evolution of Pavilion: Growth and Community Dynamics15:08 Building an Elite Community: Focus and Future Directions19:56 The Importance of Technical Fluency in Sales21:38 The Changing Landscape of B2B Sales24:26 The Rise of New Companies and Sales Opportunities28:31 Navigating Anxiety in the Business World34:27 Building a Media Property for Operators38:28 Defining Success in Business and Life41:23 Introduction to Sales Dynamics41:23 Understanding Customer Needs
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41 MIN
205: Leaning Into Discomfort | Stevie Case, CRO @Vanta
JUL 29, 2025
205: Leaning Into Discomfort | Stevie Case, CRO @Vanta
In this episode, Dan Sixsmith interviews Stevie Case, the CRO of Vanta, discussing her unique career journey, the current state of B2B sales, and the importance of customer retention and growth strategies. They explore how Vanta integrates AI into its solutions and the significance of building a personal brand in sales. Stevie shares insights on leadership, motivating diverse teams, and her definition of success, emphasizing the importance of passion and authenticity in sales.TakeawaysVanta focuses on trust management, compliance, and security.Stevie's role as CRO involves driving top-line revenue growth.Sales should prioritize delivering customer value and building trust.AI is transforming the way businesses operate and sell.Stevie's journey from gaming to tech highlights the importance of leaning into discomfort.Leadership today requires adapting to an AI-driven landscape.Motivating teams involves showing up and sharing a clear vision.Building a personal brand is crucial for sales professionals.Authenticity in social media can enhance professional relationships.Success is defined by having a rich and interesting life.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Vanta and Stevie Case's Role04:22 The State of B2B Sales Today10:05 Customer Retention and Growth Strategies13:09 Integrating AI into Business Solutions16:48 Stevie Case's Unique Career Journey26:41 Leadership Evolution and Style29:28 Motivating a Diverse Team32:24 Building a Personal Brand in Sales35:38 Influences and Definitions of Success
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38 MIN
204: The CIO's Role In Modern Selling | FICO's Mike Trkay
JUL 7, 2025
204: The CIO's Role In Modern Selling | FICO's Mike Trkay
In this episode of Sales is King, Dan Sixsmith interviews Mike Trkay, the Chief Information Officer at FICO. They discuss the evolving role of a CIO, the importance of customer engagement, and how technology decisions are made in a collaborative environment. Mike shares insights on differentiating in a competitive market, the significance of building trust with customers, and the lessons learned throughout his career. The conversation also touches on the changing expectations of buyers in the B2B space, particularly in relation to technology and AI.TakeawaysMike Trkay emphasizes the importance of a customer-focused role for a CIO.Technology decisions at FICO are made collaboratively across various teams.AI has been a part of FICO's operations for decades, focusing on predictive analytics.FICO differentiates itself by providing analytics rather than just raw data.Building trust with customers is crucial for long-term relationships.Managing expectations is key to successful customer engagement.Mike's career path highlights the value of mentorship and learning from experiences.Listening and asking questions are vital skills in business interactions.Business outcomes should take precedence over technology for technology's sake.The expectations of buyers are evolving, particularly with younger generations. Chapters00:00 Introduction to FICO and Mike Trkay's Role03:10 Navigating Technology Decisions in a Customer-Centric World06:24 FICO's Unique Position in the Market09:10 The Role of the CIO in Sales and Customer Relationships12:24 Managing Expectations and Building Trust15:12 Expanding Opportunities and Customer Experience18:12 Handling Issues and Turning Problems into Opportunities22:49 Building Strong Relationships with Clients25:23 Mike Trkay's Journey to CIO at FICO30:51 Mentorship and Early Career Lessons36:11 Navigating Stress and Decision-Making40:13 Understanding Modern Buyer Expectations45:02 Introduction to Sales Dynamics45:02 Understanding Customer Needs
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45 MIN