The RunOut Podcast

<p>Fallon Rowe is a climber, writer, coach, teacher, researcher, and many more things. Her new book is called Pay No Mind: A Memoir of Climbing, Abuse, and Survival. Beyond discussing the traumatic story that she tells in her book, we enjoyed listening to Fallon bring her always thoughtful, grounded perspective to the way she approaches movement, risk, and life on the rock.</p> <p>But first, we sit down to talk about The Art of Suffering. No, not the kind of suffering we normally describe of getting to Rifle and finding nowhere to park. The kind of suffering that only one of alpinism&#8217;s most enigmatic and thoughtful philosophers could articulate: Voytek Kurtkyka, the legendary Polish climber.&nbsp;</p> <p>Our final bit comes from climber, listener, and drummer Todd Hammond, and the Utah-based band The Statuettes. This track is called The of End of Everything.</p> <p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p> <p>Follow Fallon Rowe:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/fallonclimbs">https://www.instagram.com/fallonclimbs</a></p> <p>&#8220;Pay No Mind: A Memoir of Climbing, Abuse, and Survival&#8221; at DiAngelo Books:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.diangelopublications.com/shop/p/pay-no-mind">https://www.diangelopublications.com/shop/p/pay-no-mind</a></p> <p>Voytek Kurtyka: &#8220;The Art of Suffering&#8221;:&nbsp;<a href="https://thefossilclub.blogspot.com/2012/07/art-of-suffering.html?m=1">https://thefossilclub.blogspot.com/2012/07/art-of-suffering.html?m=1</a></p> <p>More on Voytek:&nbsp;<a href="https://publications.americanalpineclub.org/articles/13201214642/The-Art-of-Freedom-The-Life-and-Climbs-of-Voytek-Kurtyka">https://publications.americanalpineclub.org/articles/13201214642/The-Art-of-Freedom-The-Life-and-Climbs-of-Voytek-Kurtyka</a></p> <p>The Statuettes on Bandcamp:&nbsp;<a href="https://michaelgross.bandcamp.com/music">https://michaelgross.bandcamp.com/music</a></p> <p><strong>Become a RunOut Rope Gun!</strong> Support our podcast and increase your RunOut runtime. Bonus episodes, AMA, and more will be available to our Rope Guns. Thank you for your support! <a href="http://patreon.com/runoutpodcast">http://patreon.com/runoutpodcast</a></p> <p><strong>Contact us</strong> Send ideas, voicemail, feedback and more. <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> // <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a></p>

<p>On June 8 Kate Kellegan and Laura Pineau (aka Mademoiselle Fissure) became the first women to complete the Yosemite Triple Crown. That means the climbed El Capitan, Half Dome and Mt. Watkins in a day. Their time was 23 hours, 36 minutes, and 40 seconds. In this conversation, Kate and Laura share the tactics they used to achieve their big link-up, including tapping into the stoke and&nbsp;&nbsp;support of the community.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>But first, Kalous lays down on the therapy couch while Dr. Bisharat tries to diagnose why redpointing projects isn&#8217;t bringing him the kind of joy you might otherwise expect.</p> <p>Last, the Pink Rope Club from Atlanta performs their anthem.</p> <p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p> <p>Triple Crown News on UK Climbing:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2025/06/kate_kelleghan_and_laura_pineau_on_completing_the_yosemite_triple_crown-73998">https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2025/06/kate_kelleghan_and_laura_pineau_on_completing_the_yosemite_triple_crown-73998</a></p> <p>Follow Kate Kellegan:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/katekelleghan/">https://www.instagram.com/katekelleghan/</a></p> <p>Follow Laura Pineau:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/laurapineau/">https://www.instagram.com/laurapineau/</a></p> <p><strong>Become a RunOut Rope Gun!</strong> Support our podcast and increase your RunOut runtime. Bonus episodes, AMA, and more will be available to our Rope Guns. Thank you for your support! <a href="http://patreon.com/runoutpodcast">http://patreon.com/runoutpodcast</a></p> <p><strong>Contact us</strong> Send ideas, voicemail, feedback and more. <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> // <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a></p></p>

<p>Danielle Sarli is a kindergarten teacher, musician, and passionate climber. She is the author of Little Climber, a new kids&#8217; book illustrated by Amanda Joy Hogan. We discuss how to tap into that kid-like innate urge to climb, and kindle the joy that we all feel when stand on top of the world—or our own projects.&nbsp;</p> <p>But first, your inquisitive show hosts take a moment to ask each other anything. Literally, anything.</p> <p>Last, we&#8217;d be remiss not to share some of Danielle&#8217;s musical chops. Here she is performing Beauty Land.&nbsp;</p> <p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p> <p>Follow Danielle Sarli:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/danielle_climbs/">https://www.instagram.com/danielle_climbs/</a></p> <p>Order &#8220;Little Climber&#8221;:&nbsp;<a href="https://littleclimberbook.com/shop?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAadq3UKCPB60yzRzowokzWlP3C9E2K0RwgRWQvW6N-OyKuQIOtBKMO7oOp0PNA_aem_X6QkDltf0pcMQ9KCqCMfDw">https://littleclimberbook.com/shop</a></p> <p>Watch &#8220;Beauty Land&#8221; music video:&nbsp;<a href="https://youtu.be/y1Jc2xvI_oo?si=eVUstBI6i_k1ONJ_">https://youtu.be/y1Jc2xvI_oo?si=eVUstBI6i_k1ONJ_</a></p>

<p>In 2017, a climber was murdered outside of Squamish. His body was found with gunshot wounds, inside a smoldering, burnt vehicle. He was suspected to be the climber known as Jesse James, a Squamish dirtbag who made his mark on the scene, both in real life and online. In fact, it took three years for investigators to discover his real name and his incredible and sordid past. Who was this person really and what clues did his past reveal about who killed him—or why? Steven Chua is a freelance journalist based in Vancouver. He&#8217;s a rock climber, and the host of Dirtbag Climber, a new true-crime podcast from the CBC&#8217;s Uncover. This riveting new podcast peels back the layers of Jess James, a former neo-nazi turned crypto king dirtbag climbing outlaw.</p> <p>But first, your well-intentioned hosts try to breathe a bit of positivity into the world by shining our lights on several climbing stories that are all good and about which nothing negative can be said.</p> <p>Today&#8217;s final bit comes from climber, OG Stone Monkey, public speaker and purveyor of joy, just like us, Timmy O&#8217;Neill. He is also the sometimes touring drummer for the Surf Rock Duo, Par Avion. Featured is the track Bikini Beach Bash recorded live at the Eldorado in downtown Carbondale CO.</p> <p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p> <p><a href="https://link.mgln.ai/dc-therunout">Listen to &#8220;Dirtbag Climber&#8221; from Uncover</a> <a href="https://link.mgln.ai/dc-therunout">https://link.mgln.ai/dc-therunout</a></p> <p><a href="https://x.com/s_chua">Follow Steven Chua on X</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/DOvxvhZkWXF/?hl=en&amp;img_index=1">Michaela Kiersch announces first ascent of Mad Lib (5.14d)</a> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/DOvxvhZkWXF/?hl=en&amp;img_index=1">https://www.instagram.com/p/DOvxvhZkWXF/?hl=en&amp;img_index=1</a></p> <p><a href="https://colinhaley.com/cerro-torre-winter-solo/">&#8220;Cerro Torre Winter Solo&#8221; on Colin Haley&#8217;s blog</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/DOvmCIwAb32/">Tim Emmett is pretty fired up</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/DO6bPknjBlR/?img_index=1">Dave Graham climbs V16</a></p> <p><a href="https://deadline.com/2025/09/walton-goggins-lewis-pullman-jessica-biel-batso-el-capitan-1236503930/">Walton Goggins &#8211; Batso</a></p> <p><strong>Become a RunOut Rope Gun!</strong> Support our podcast and increase your RunOut runtime. Bonus episodes, AMA, and more will be available to our Rope Guns. Thank you for your support! <a href="http://patreon.com/runoutpodcast">http://patreon.com/runoutpodcast</a></p> <p><strong>Contact us</strong> Send ideas, voicemail, feedback and more. <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> // <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a></p>

<p>Nate Liles is a photographer, filmmaker, and development director at the American Safe Climbing Association. Today&#8217;s conversation with Nate centers on the state of bolts and bolting in America today, and the tenuous landscape of route developers, local climbing organizations, land managers, and community-organized bolting events that keep the state of hardware at our crags in the best shape possible. We talk about best practices regarding how to maintain hardware, where we&#8217;ve inadvertently created issues, and the importance of supporting your local climbing organization—not to mention the ASCA itself—with your dollars.&nbsp;</p> <p>But first, we talk about bad kids at the crags and reaching the threshold for when there are just too many of these rotten, no-good brats ruining our wilderness experiences.</p> <p>Last but never least, today&#8217;s final bit comes from the talented photographer and musician Taylor Shaffer</p> <p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p> <p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/or0graph1c/">Follow Nate Liles on Instagram</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/asca_bolt_replacement/">Follow the ASCA on Instagram</a></p> <p><a href="https://safeclimbing.org/donate">Donate to the ASCA</a></p> <p><a href="https://safeclimbing.org/">SafeClimbing.org</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.orographic.studio/">Orographic Creative</a></p> <p>Follow&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/taylor._shaffer/">Taylor Shaffer&nbsp;</a>and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/taylorshaffer_music/">Taylor Shaffer Music&nbsp;</a>on Instagram</p> <p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/0BF6oSukHpVi4HOfSsqKKK?si=lGr1BLDaS5C9AZO9HYPaCg&amp;fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaeuL6y2aDyw9Jx28qqYoYatmfKMOOawJfenT0u4tjMez9o1oqQOn5TQSCUbAQ_aem_bcpl1B07WZKptPCEceRxSw&amp;nd=1&amp;dlsi=d5e269c1acc14235">Taylor Shaffer on Spotify</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.redbullillume.com/int-en/taylor-shaffer-modesty-and-meaningful-relationships?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaac376xLuTEGLiF_G9bKnWtei54hF3QpNT6-_JD6za-dBIJkn-Af2efDG8_aem_YEmeXgw425jhfIfEQqaP7w">Taylor Shaffer interview</a></p></p>