<p>Margo Hayes is a professional climber, model, musician, and artist — and she&#8217;s best known as the first woman to climb 5.15a, a grade she reached not just once, but three times: La Rambla, Biographie, and Papichulo. In recent years, a battle with Lyme disease has made climbing at her limit difficult, and she&#8217;s channeled her energy into art, music, and writing. Her new book,&#160;<em>The Margo Method</em>, outlines her approach to climbing and health.</p> <p>But first, we pore over the details of a very interesting, precedent-setting case involving a manslaughter conviction after a winter mountaineering ascent turns tragic.&#160;</p> <p>Our final bit is a San Diego rock band called Half Hour Late, with their song Ain&#8217;t Nothing New.</p> <p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p> <p>Follow Margo Hayes:&#160;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/margojain/">https://www.instagram.com/margojain/</a></p> <p>&#8220;The Margo Method: Strong and Soft&#8221;:&#160;<a href="https://margohayes.com/the-margo-method-strong-and-soft/the-margo-method-strong-and-soft?utm_source=ig&#38;utm_medium=social&#38;utm_content=link_in_bio&#38;fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQMMjU2MjgxMDQwNTU4AAGnWcoduY7HyEXhLVP1MyTkBc7_3l-w6PGWRzhp0nzpqbYoMX97_OTmHTw7QcU_aem_EZnWgNSp69NYy1zKD90JSg">https://margohayes.com/the-margo-method-strong-and-soft/the-margo-method-strong-and-soft</a></p> <p>Margo&#8217;s music: &#8220;Notes To You&#8221;:&#160;<a href="https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/margojain/notes-to-you">https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/margojain/notes-to-you</a></p> <p>Austrian Man Found Guilty in Girlfriend’s Death on Mountain Hike:&#160;<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/19/world/europe/austrian-man-girlfriend-death-mountain-hike-guilty.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/19/world/europe/austrian-man-girlfriend-death-mountain-hike-guilty.html</a></p> <p>Follow Half Hour Late:&#160;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/halfhourlate/">https://www.instagram.com/halfhourlate/</a></p> <p><a href="https://halfhourlate.com">https://halfhourlate.com</a> </p> <figure class="wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-spotify wp-block-embed-spotify wp-embed-aspect-21-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio"> <div class="wp-block-embed__wrapper"> https://open.spotify.com/track/3XC0lgx3HJO2zsNoPJ7C2l?si=7a3ef6a566904b5d </div> </figure> <h2 class="wp-block-heading">The new Free Wall Kit from Patagonia</h2> <p>This episode is sponsored by our friends at Patagonia. The new Free Wall Kit is a six piece kit designed to help you perform, rest, and recover on multi-pitch climbs. Check out the full kit here: <a href="https://www.patagonia.com/free-wall-kit/?utm_source=runout&#38;utm_medium=endemic&#38;utm_campaign=S26_freewallkit">https://www.patagonia.com/free-wall-kit/?utm_source=runout&#38;utm_medium=endemic&#38;utm_campaign=S26_freewallkit</a></p>