Talking Under Water

Utilities hold more power than they think. In this day and age, with a few taps of a keyboard, information is literally at your fingertips. For some, that’s a simple Google search, and others a query with a generative AI tool. But for those more enterprising utility leaders, operators and managers, that interaction in peer groups on Facebook, LinkedIn, Discord or other platforms.  They share best practices with each other, answer questions, provide guidance on management decisions, and it is a forum for open and honest thoughts about products in the market place. Utilities are holding vendors accountable with each other.  Bruce Bharat, regional president of the Americas for Kamstrup, has taken notice of this trend and other purchasing influences in the market. In this sponsored interview, Bob Crossen talks with him about how the Information Age has changed the way modern utilities interact with Kamstrup, why that drives innovation and how being different is a good thing.  This episode is sponsored by Kamstrup Resources:  WaterWorld Digital Edition  SWS Digital Edition  WWD YouTube Channel  About the Podcast      Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld and Storm Water Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, point of use, point of entry, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and on-site interviews with experts for WWD, WaterWorld and SWS. New episodes of the podcast are released on the third Friday of every month. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.      Contact the Talking Under Water podcast editors by emailing [email protected] engaging with them on Twitter @TUWpodcast. Join the conversation by commenting or using the hashtag #talkingunderwaterpod on social media.  

In this episode Talking Under Water co-host Mandy Crispin speaks with Angela Walker who is the Assistant Director of Wastewater Operations at the Brunswick‑Glynn Joint Water & Sewer Commission and one of the inspirations for this year’s Women in Water feature story. Walker reflects on her career journey, the role her mother played in shaping her sense of responsibility and stubborn determination, and the ways her team supported her during a profound personal loss. She shares candid insights on navigating male‑dominated spaces, building trust within utility teams, and creating a culture where knowledge is shared — not guarded — through cross‑training and collaboration between operations and maintenance. The conversation dives into systems thinking during plant upsets, staying calm under pressure, and leading with accountability instead of blame. Walker also speaks to the industry’s role in long‑term water sustainability, from water reuse potential to the challenges posed by data centers and emerging contaminants. This episode highlights why utilities are about more than infrastructure. They’re about people, public health, and the future of water.   Show notes Women in Water 2026 Angela G. Walker LinkedIn   Timestamps 00:00 – Introduction01:04 – Developing technical confidence & owning your seat at the table02:32 – Remembering her mother & early influences04:04 – Team support, trust, and leadership culture05:44 – Barriers for women in technical leadership07:59 – Lifting others as we climb / Knowledge‑sharing culture11:12 – Systems thinking & staying calm under pressure13:45 – Public health, sustainability, and water reuse18:26 – Closing thoughts & where to find Angela Walker19:54 – Housekeeping   About the Podcast   Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld (WW) and Stormwater Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.

In this episode, Talking Under Water co‑hosts discuss the newest PFAS regulatory developments, major legal challenges, and the mounting strain on water and stormwater infrastructure across the U.S. The conversation begins with the EPA’s decision to add PFHXSNA to the Toxics Release Inventory, expanding federal PFAS tracking and community access to chemical data. The hosts then outline the unfolding court battle over EPA’s PFAS drinking water rule, detailing the agency’s motion to sever and pause litigation on the hazard index and the strong opposition filed by AWWA and AMWA, who argue that utilities need unified judicial review to plan for compliance.   The episode also explores the Supreme Court’s recent ruling striking down President Trump’s tariff plan and how the administration is seeking new legal pathways to maintain tariffs. From there, the hosts examine the politically charged response to the Potomac Interceptor sewer collapse, highlighting the operational, financial, and communication challenges surrounding the incident.   Closing out, the show turns to stormwater struggles on both coasts — catch basin failures and compliance gaps in Connecticut, and severe flooding, lawsuits, and multibillion‑dollar funding shortfalls in San Diego — underscoring nationwide infrastructure vulnerabilities. The episode concludes with key industry updates and program announcements.   Show Notes EPA adds PFHxS-Na to toxics release inventory, expanding PFAS reporting Court battle over EPA PFAS rule turns to procedural fight AWWA-v-EPA-PFAS-Our-Opposition-to-Motion-to-Sever (PDF)   Additional AWWA Resources for these court proceedings EPA Motion to Sever and Hold Challenges to Index PFAS in Abeyance Supreme Court strikes down Trump-era tariffs, raising implications for infrastructure costs Trump calls for federal response to Potomac Interceptor collapse   Timestamps 00:00 – Introduction 01:06 – Episode overview (topics the episode will cover) 01:19 – PFAS TRI addition explanation (PFHXSNA added to toxics release inventory) 04:09 – EPA motion on PFAS drinking water rule (EPA asks court to sever hazard index challenge) 09:36 – AWWA & AMWA opposition filing (utilities argue judicial review should remain unified) 14:22 – Supreme Court strikes down Trump tariff plan (overview of the decision and implications) 16:35 – Potomac Interceptor sewer collapse (political conflict and infrastructure impacts) 21:34 – Connecticut stormwater infrastructure challenges (Meriden compliance gaps and repairs) 22:54 – San Diego stormwater failures (flooding, lawsuits, funding shortfall) 24:13 – Housekeeping (polls, nominations, and program updates) About the Podcast   Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld (WW) and Stormwater Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.

In this episode Talking Under Water co-host Bob Crossen talks with John Ikeda and Justin Roush about the launch of Xavier University’s groundbreaking Water Utilities Management master’s degree — the first program of its kind in the United States. Together, they discuss how the degree was conceived, the industry challenges it aims to address, and why workforce development has become one of the most urgent priorities for water and wastewater utilities. Ikeda, chief mission officer at the Water Environment Federation (WEF), and Roush, assistant economics professor at Xavier and director of the new program, outline the growing need for specialized utility leadership as retirements accelerate and system complexity increases. They explain how the curriculum blends foundational business skills with utility‑specific coursework in areas like rate setting, regulation, capital improvement planning, and strategic communications. The discussion also highlights unique residency experiences, cohort‑based learning, and the program’s intentional focus on networking and long‑term career growth. Crossen, Ikeda, and Roush explore how the master’s degree fits into broader sector‑wide workforce strategies and why emerging topics — such as AI in water — are being built directly into the curriculum. The episode offers a forward‑looking look at how the program aims to elevate future water utility leaders across the U.S. Show Notes Xavier University Water Utility Management Program Xavier University Water Utility Management Program on LinkedIn Poll: What is your biggest workforce challenge in 2026? WWD Emerging Leaders submissions WW Emerging Leaders submissions WW Women in Water Questionnaire StormCon 2026 registration Timestamps 00:00 – Introduction 01:25 – Guest introductions 02:24 – Origin of the master's program 04:49 – Why traditional programs fall short 06:53 – What makes water utilities unique 08:20 – Role of WEF in program development 10:44 – Why visibility and career pathways matter 11:30 – Cohort model & residency experiences 18:44 – Unique program features 27:15 – Housekeeping announcements and closing reminders About the Podcast   Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld (WW) and Stormwater Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.

In this episode of Talking Underwater, co-hosts Mandy Crispin and Bob Crossen explore the forces shaping the water and wastewater sector as the industry looks ahead to 2026.  The conversation opens with insights into new research on the growing water demands of data centers in Texas. Drawing from a recent white paper by the Houston Advanced Research Center (HARC), Crispin outlines how existing and planned data center development could significantly strain drinking water supplies if water planning and policy fail to keep pace with rapid growth.  Crossen then shares insights from a January poll on wastewater capital spending priorities. Results show utilities are primarily focused on treatment process upgrades and collection system improvements, while resilience and emergency preparedness rank surprisingly low.  The episode wraps with a broader look at 2026 industry forecasts from the Water Environment Federation (WEF) and the National Association of Clean Water Agencies (NACWA). Key themes include workforce development, the rise of the circular water economy, policy efforts around PFAS and the “polluter pays” principle, funding through state revolving funds, and affordability programs such as LIHWAP. Together, these perspectives suggest a shift from big‑picture concepts toward practical action as utilities confront emerging challenges and opportunities in the year ahead. Show Notes Thirsty Data and the Lone Star State: The Impact of Data Center Growth on Texas’ Water Supply What is perchlorate in drinking water? Poll results: 2026 wastewater capital spending priorities Looking forward: WEF’s strategics priorities and collective action for the wastewater sector NACWA’s clean water initiatives focus on liability, affordability and infrastructure AWWA outlines federal priorities for water and wastewater utilities in the 119th Congress Poll: What is your biggest workforce challenge in 2026? WWD Emerging Leaders submissions WW Emerging Leaders submissions StormCon 2026 registration Timestamps 00:28 – Introduction 01:05 – Overview of HARC white paper on Texas data centers and water use 01:42 – Projections for data center water demand by 2030 04:13 – Policy recommendations 06:23 – January capital spending poll overview 07:55 – 2026 WEF priorities 09:15 – 2026 NACWA policy and legislative focus 09:34 – State Revolving Fund reauthorization 10:08 – Low‑Income Household Water Assistance Program (LIHWAP) 11:15 – Housekeeping announcements and closing reminders About the Podcast   Talking Under Water is the premier podcast for the water industry, including municipal water and wastewater, residential water treatment, storm water management and erosion control. It is produced in coordination between Wastewater Digest (WWD), WaterWorld (WW) and Stormwater Solutions (SWS). The podcast covers topics under the One Water movement including the municipal and industrial water and wastewater, residential, storm water and erosion control markets. Talking Under Water highlights news, trends, new technologies, industry discussions and interviews with experts across the municipal water industry. New episodes of the podcast are released every other week. Logo Images: Anatoly Tiplyashin / Romolo Tavani / stock.adobe.com.