In Episode 458 of the Follow2Lead Podcast, Tony Miltenberger sits down with Dave Ferguson for a powerful conversation on what it really means to multiply as a leader. Drawing from his latest book Multipliers, Dave challenges leaders to confront a foundational truth: you will always reproduce what’s already inside of you. Whether you're leading a team, a church, or a movement, your internal health determines your external impact. Tony and Dave explore the burden of leadership and the importance of evaluating your internal “gauges”—your relationships, disciplines, and daily practices. They unpack how intentional rhythms shape long-term effectiveness and why leadership multiplication isn’t about doing more, but becoming more of who you’re called to be. The conversation also touches on disciple making, leadership development, and knowing when it’s time to pivot. Dave brings clarity to the idea that lasting impact starts with personal alignment and consistency. This episode is a strong invitation for leaders to take ownership of what they’re multiplying—before it’s too late to change it. Coaching Question:How are your gauges? If you evaluated your relationships, disciplines, and daily practices today, what would they reveal about what you're multiplying? Connect with Dave Ferguson:• Website: daveferguson.org• Exponential: exponential.org• Instagram: @daveferguson_ Get the Book:• multiplierbook.com Please check out our sponsors: The Wonder Project: Subscriber support makes more great content like I Gotta Ask with Annie F. Downs possible. The Wonder Project subscription on Prime Video is available in the U.S. for $8.99/month or $89.99/year after a 7-day free trial.Visit ⁠IGottaAsk.com⁠ to learn more!The Wonder Project: Subscriber support makes more great content like I Gotta Ask with Annie F. Downs possible. The Wonder Project subscription on Prime Video is available in the U.S. for $8.99/month or $89.99/year after a 7-day free trial.Visit ⁠IGottaAsk.com⁠ to learn more! https://tinyurl.com/F2LIGottaAsk EBEB Solutions https://www.ebebsolutions.com/ That Sounds Fun Network: https://thatsoundsfunnetwork.com/ Follow 2 Lead Coaching https://www.follow2leadbenchmark.com Tony on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/twmilt/ Check out our YouTube page https://www.youtube.com/@twmilt Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/follow-2-lead-a-christian-leaders-podcast/id1429933082 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices