Inside the Bold New Cleveland & Detroit Food Scene
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<p data-start="494" data-end="818">Cleveland Food Scene. Today on <em data-start="503" data-end="520">Flavors Unknown</em>, I sit down with five dynamic culinary voices who are reshaping perceptions of Cleveland and Detroit’s food and drink scenes.<br data-start="646" data-end="649" />This panel was recorded during StarChefs Rising Stars in Cleveland, and wouldn’t have been possible without the support of Symrise Food & Beverage North America.</p>
<p data-start="820" data-end="1149">My guests include:<br data-start="838" data-end="841" />🍕 Chef Vince Morelli – <em data-start="869" data-end="903">Cent’s Pizza + Goods (Cleveland)</em><br data-start="903" data-end="906" />🧪 Chef Jeremy Umansky – <em data-start="935" data-end="977">Larder Delicatessen & Bakery (Cleveland)</em><br data-start="977" data-end="980" />🥟 Chef Liu Fang – <em data-start="1003" data-end="1035">Abundance Culinary (Cleveland)</em><br data-start="1035" data-end="1038" />🍰 Pastry Chef Annabella Andricks – <em data-start="1078" data-end="1096">Rood (Cleveland)</em><br data-start="1096" data-end="1099" />🍸 Bartender Liz Dabecco – <em data-start="1130" data-end="1149">Standby (Detroit)</em></p>
<p data-start="1151" data-end="1469">Together, we explore what it means to create boldly, collaborate fiercely, and honor your roots—without romanticizing the past. From fermentation experiments with blood to cereal milk desserts, fashion-influenced pizzas, and umami cocktails, this conversation is raw, flavorful, and unapologetically Rust Belt.</p>
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<h2>What you’ll learn from this Panel</h2>
<p>The Scene & The Spirit</p>
<p>[3:27] Why Cleveland deserves your culinary attention</p>
<p>[3:53] How Detroit’s food scene is scaling fast</p>
<p>[5:11] A rare spirit of collaboration among Cleveland chefs</p>
<p>[6:59] Why “Rust Belt” is outdated—and how the Cuyahoga River became a metaphor for rebirth</p>
<p>Behind the Apron</p>
<p>[8:38] When rival restaurants called the health department on each other</p>
<p>[9:01] Beijing’s cutthroat kitchen culture</p>
<p>[11:21] Why many chefs left Cleveland—and what brought them back</p>
<p>[13:28] Annabella’s imaginary cooking shows for stuffed animals</p>
<p>[13:55] Vince’s path from fashion forecasting to pizza</p>
<p>Philosophy & Process</p>
<p>[20:10] Liu Fang’s sensory rediscovery of childhood flavors</p>
<p>[22:05] Vince’s use of fashion “drop culture” and lifestyle branding</p>
<p>[29:21] Annabella’s Neapolitan dessert inspired by sake, shōchū, and toasted rice</p>
<p>[30:42] Jeremy’s philosophy on rotating seasonal ingredients and making the “non-delicious” craveable</p>
<p>Drinks, Desserts & Reinvention</p>
<p>[42:17] Liz’s approach to cocktails as storytelling</p>
<p>[45:40] Caper brine, MSG, and savory cocktails: gimmick or future?</p>
<p>[49:06] Corn, smoked tea, and blueberry in ice cream—Annabella’s unlikely hit</p>
<p>[50:33] Vince’s open-door policy on toppings (even pineapple)</p>
<p>The Personal & The Political</p>
<p>[59:02] Hangover food, donkey burgers, and tuna salad confessions</p>
<p>[1:10:19] Jeremy’s call to retire the phrase “food waste”</p>
<p>[1:11:00] Annabella’s clever reuse of strawberry scraps</p>
<p>[1:14:04] Why regionalism matters more than ever in a TikTok-driven dining world</p>
<p>[1:20:25] “It’s good for Cleveland”—why that’s not a compliment</p>
<h2 data-start="3237" data-end="3283">Featured Moments You Won’t Want to Miss</h2>
<p data-start="3284" data-end="3637">🔸 <strong data-start="3287" data-end="3330">Fermenting with blood & tofu gone wrong</strong> – [38:41]<br data-start="3340" data-end="3343" />🔸 <strong data-start="3346" data-end="3422">Liu Fang’s haunting story of China’s famine and how it fuels her cooking</strong> – [17:03]<br data-start="3432" data-end="3435" />🔸 <strong data-start="3438" data-end="3498">Annabella’s anti-dessert desserts: less sugar, more soul</strong> – [48:11]<br data-start="3508" data-end="3511" />🔸 <strong data-start="3514" data-end="3558">Vince’s graffiti-inspired collab mindset</strong> – [24:33]<br data-start="3568" data-end="3571" />🔸 <strong data-start="3574" data-end="3615">The last meals that define each guest</strong> – [1:04:04–1:06:07]</p>
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<h2>Links to most downloaded episodes (click on any picture to listen to the episode)</h2>
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<a href="https://flavorsunknown.com/4-influences-that-shaped-hawaii-food-culture-by-sheldon-simeon/" target="_blank"><br />
<img decoding="async" width="1024" height="576" src="https://flavorsunknown.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Sheldon-Cover-1024x576.jpg" alt="Chef Sheldon Simeon" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/flavorsunknown.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Sheldon-Cover.jpg?resize=1024%2C576&ssl=1 1024w, https://i0.wp.com/flavorsunknown.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Sheldon-Cover.jpg?resize=300%2C169&ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/flavorsunknown.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Sheldon-Cover.jpg?resize=768%2C432&ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/flavorsunknown.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Sheldon-Cover.jpg?resize=1536%2C864&ssl=1 1536w, https://i0.wp.com/flavorsunknown.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Sheldon-Cover.jpg?resize=2048%2C1152&ssl=1 2048w, https://i0.wp.com/flavorsunknown.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Sheldon-Cover.jpg?resize=350%2C197&ssl=1 350w, https://i0.wp.com/flavorsunknown.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Sheldon-Cover.jpg?resize=800%2C450&ssl=1 800w, https://i0.wp.com/flavorsunknown.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Sheldon-Cover.jpg?resize=400%2C225&ssl=1 400w, https://i0.wp.com/flavorsunknown.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Sheldon-Cover.jpg?w=1920&ssl=1 1920w" sizes="(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" /> </a><figcaption>Chef Sheldon Simeon</figcaption></figure>
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<a href="https://flavorsunknown.com/breaking-the-rules-by-chef-andy-doubrava/" target="_blank"><br />
<img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1024" height="576" src="https://flavorsunknown.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/AD-Cover.jpg" alt="Chef Andy Doubrava" /> </a><figcaption>Chef Andy Doubrava</figcaption></figure>
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<a href="https://flavorsunknown.com/nina-compton-from-caribbean-flavors-to-nola/" target="_blank"><br />
<img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1024" height="576" src="https://flavorsunknown.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Nina-Compton-1024x576.jpg" alt="Chef Nina Compton" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/flavorsunknown.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Nina-Compton.jpg?resize=1024%2C576&ssl=1 1024w, https://i0.wp.com/flavorsunknown.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Nina-Compton.jpg?resize=300%2C169&ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/flavorsunknown.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Nina-Compton.jpg?resize=768%2C432&ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/flavorsunknown.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Nina-Compton.jpg?resize=1536%2C864&ssl=1 1536w, https://i0.wp.com/flavorsunknown.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Nina-Compton.jpg?w=1920&ssl=1 1920w, https://i0.wp.com/flavorsunknown.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Nina-Compton.jpg?resize=350%2C197&ssl=1 350w, https://i0.wp.com/flavorsunknown.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Nina-Compton.jpg?resize=800%2C450&ssl=1 800w, https://i0.wp.com/flavorsunknown.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Nina-Compton.jpg?resize=400%2C225&ssl=1 400w" sizes="(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" /> </a><figcaption>Chef Nina Compton</figcaption></figure>
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<a href="https://flavorsunknown.com/a-taste-of-life-with-chef-jacques-pepin/" target="_blank"><br />
<img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1024" height="576" src="https://flavorsunknown.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Jacques-Pepin-1-1024x576.jpg" alt="Chef Jacques Pepin" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/flavorsunknown.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Jacques-Pepin-1.jpg?resize=1024%2C576&ssl=1 1024w, https://i0.wp.com/flavorsunknown.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Jacques-Pepin-1.jpg?resize=300%2C169&ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/flavorsunknown.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Jacques-Pepin-1.jpg?resize=768%2C432&ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/flavorsunknown.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Jacques-Pepin-1.jpg?resize=1536%2C864&ssl=1 1536w, https://i0.wp.com/flavorsunknown.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Jacques-Pepin-1.jpg?w=1920&ssl=1 1920w, https://i0.wp.com/flavorsunknown.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Jacques-Pepin-1.jpg?resize=350%2C197&ssl=1 350w, https://i0.wp.com/flavorsunknown.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Jacques-Pepin-1.jpg?resize=800%2C450&ssl=1 800w, https://i0.wp.com/flavorsunknown.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Jacques-Pepin-1.jpg?resize=400%2C225&ssl=1 400w" sizes="(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" /> </a><figcaption>Chef Jacques Pepin</figcaption></figure>
<h2>Social media</h2>
<p>Chef Jeremy Umansky</p>
<p> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/tmgastronaut/" target="_blank"><br />
Instagram<br />
</a></p>
<h2>Social media</h2>
<p>Chef Vince Morelli</p>
<p> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/centspizza/" target="_blank"><br />
Instagram<br />
</a></p>
<h2>Social media</h2>
<p>Chef Liu Fang</p>
<p> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/chefliufang/" target="_blank"><br />
Instagram<br />
</a></p>
<h2>Social media</h2>
<p>Annabella Andricks</p>
<p> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/roodfoodpie/?hl=en" target="_blank"><br />
Instagram<br />
</a></p>
<h2>Social media</h2>
<p>Liz Dabecco</p>
<p> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lookatme_liz/" target="_blank"><br />
Instagram<br />
</a></p>
<h2>Links mentioned in this episode</h2>
<p><a href="https://larderdb.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Larder</a></p>
<p><a href="https://a-bun.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Abundance Culinary</a></p>
<p><a href="https://centspizza.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Cents Pizza</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.eatatrood.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Rood</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.standbydetroit.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Standby</a></p>
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