In this episode, Marsha is speaking with Charles and Heidi Hatley. They are the honest, unfiltered voices behind Kava and Kettlebells, a podcast that’s redefining strength, sobriety, and intentional living. Charles is a U.S. Air Force veteran and small-business consultant; Heidi is a personal trainer, homeschooling mom, and traumatic brain injury (TBI) survivor. Together, they’re raising their kids, lifting heavy weights, and sipping kava in a world saturated with alcohol.After surviving a life-altering car crash, they turned to natural healing—rebuilding their lives through movement, faith, and a botanical alternative called kava. Today, they are advocates for stronger minds and calmer bodies through sober living and holistic practices. Their story is a testament to the power of choice: choosing sobriety, choosing strength, and choosing to live life with clarity.Highlights [03:55] The early signs something wasn’t working despite outward success[06:20] A defining moment that forced a shift in direction[09:10] How identity and self worth were shaped by early experiences[12:45] Recognizing patterns that kept repeating in life and business[16:05] The role of nervous system regulation in sustainable change[18:40] Letting go of perfectionism and the pressure to prove[22:15] Why growth often feels uncomfortable before it feels expansive[26:30] Rewriting old stories instead of reacting from them[30:05] Building trust with yourself after burnout or disappointment[34:20] What aligned success actually looks like now[38:10] Advice for listeners navigating their own season of changeConnect with Charles and Heidi Hatley:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kava_kettlebellsWebsite: http://www.kavaandkettlebells.netTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@kava_kettlebellsMarsha Vanwynsberghe — NLP Storytelling Trainer, OUTSPOKEN NLP Coaching Certification, Author, Speaker, and PodcasterJoin the 2026 HWCEO Mastermind: https://meghan-weir.thrivecart.com/hwceomastermind/Unbothered Entrepreneur Masterclass (for the Podcast Listeners): https://www.marshavanw.com/unbothered-entrepreneur-masterclass-podcastUnbothered Mind Podcast https://www.marshavanw.com/unbotheredmindpodcastDownload FREE “You Are Supported” Hypnosis and Subliminal Bundle HERE Join the next cohort of OUTSPOKEN NLP Coaching Certification (kick-off in March 2025) HERELearn more about changing the Stories We Tell Ourselves Digital Program HERE. Use Code PODCAST to receive 20% off. Code FASTACTION20Tap the “Follow” button never to miss a show, and if you love the show, please feel free to tag me on social media, share it with a friend, or leave me a rating and review. This helps the show grow!Website: www.marshavanw.comConnect on IG. Click HERESubscribe on YouTube. Click HEREMentioned in this episode:Outspoken NLP Certification https://www.marshavanw.com/OUTSPOKENNLP