In the 68th episode of Truer Words, we speak with Michelle Quach about graphic design, unlikable female characters, and creating a love interest who does more than just the assigned reading. Michelle is the author of the debut YA, NOT HERE TO BE LIKED. Michelle can be found on Twitter <a href= "https://twitter.com/michellequach">@michellequach</a> and Instagram <a href= "https://www.instagram.com/_michellequach/">@_michellequach</a>. Her website is <a href= "https://www.michellequach.com/">michellequach.com</a>. Mentioned in this Episode: <a href= "https://buttondown.email/goldplatedgirls/archive/never-have-i-ever-dead-dads-me/"> Gold-Plated Girls newsletter: ‘Never Have I Ever’ & Dead Dads & Me</a> by <a href= "https://twitter.com/victoriaedel">Victoria Edel</a> <a href="https://www.laurahankin.com">Laura Hankin</a> <a href= "https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/608156/a-special-place-for-women-by-laura-hankin/9781984806260"> A Special Place for Women</a> by Laura Hankin <a href= "https://www.hbomax.com/series/urn:hbo:series:GYEabGA1pi19_ZwEAAAAK"> The Other Two</a> on HBOMax <a href= "https://www.amazon.com/Munich-Eric-Bana/dp/B00HPS0IT8"> Munich</a> <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80036165">Schitt’s Creek</a> on Netflix <a href= "https://tv.apple.com/show/umc.cmc.vtoh0mn0xn7t3c643xqonfzy?itscg=MC_20000&itsct=atvp_brand_omd&mttn3pid=Google%20AdWords&mttnagencyid=a5e&mttncc=US&mttnsiteid=143238&mttnsubad=OUS2019863_1-535101970950-c&mttnsubkw=105373391198__VmlGYEeG_&mttnsubplmnt="> Ted Lasso on Apple+</a> <a href= "https://twitter.com/constancegrady?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor"> Constance Grady</a> <a href= "https://www.vulture.com/article/ted-lasso-christmas-episode-serialization-debate.html"> Why a Christmas Episode Supercharged the Ted Lasso Debate</a> by Kathryn VanArendonk <a href= "https://www.hulu.com/series/reservation-dogs-5a310c23-e2db-4c9f-a66c-27c2fee43d92?&cmp=12772&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=BM_Search_FXonHulu_Google&utm_term=hulu%20reservation%20dogs&gclid=CjwKCAjw-ZCKBhBkEiwAM4qfF828bZ4kst2ydzcKwdC1BRFcD1Sy91cmjgPt9qsj7GHJVNj4aveQIxoC4ngQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds"> Reservation Dogs</a> on Hulu <a href= "https://www.hulu.com/series/only-murders-in-the-building-ef31c7e1-cd0f-4e07-848d-1cbfedb50ddf?cmp=11932&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=CM_SEM_Various+Niche+Originals&utm_term=only%20murders%20in%20the%20building&gclid=CjwKCAjw-ZCKBhBkEiwAM4qfF1VnW5_9C4woz62iQj6DQYPlVqt8bgzHyUohUMUzjRnEVO12VfuGcBoChMsQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds"> Only Murders in the Building</a> on Hulu <a href= "https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2006/06/05/moving-on-nora-ephron"> Moving On, A Love Story</a> - Nora Ephron Apthorp article <a href= "https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/607289/portrait-of-a-scotsman-by-evie-dunmore/"> Portrait of a Scotsman</a> by Evie Dunmore <a href= "https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/series/LX1/a-league-of-extraordinary-women/"> League of Extraordinary Women series</a> <a href= "https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/669178/the-bookshop-of-second-chances-by-jackie-fraser/"> The Bookshop of Second Chances</a> by Jackie Fraser <a href= "https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/suddenly-you-lisa-kleypas/1100600160?bvstate=pg:2/ct:r"> Suddenly You</a> by LIsa Kleypas <a href="https://fatedmates.net">Fated Mates</a> podcast <a href= "https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/28/books/sally-rooney-beautiful-world-where-are-you.html"> Sally Rooney</a> <a href= "https://www.thecut.com/2021/09/why-is-the-sex-in-sally-rooneys-books-so-good.html"> Why is the Sex in Sally Rooney’s Novels So Good?</a> by Amil Niazi <a href= "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExDPiPhLqEQ">She’s All That</a> <a href= "https://www.amazon.com/Writing-Romantic-Comedy-Billy-Mernit/dp/0060935030"> Writing the Romantic Comedy</a> by Billy Merritt <a href= "https://www.shakespeare.org.uk/explore-shakespeare/shakespedia/shakespeares-plays/macbeth/"> Macbeth</a> <a href= "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life:_A_User%27s_Manual"> Life: A User’s Manual</a> by Georges Perec <a href="https://thebookdoctors.com">The Book Doctors</a> <a href="https://pitchwars.org/pitmad/">PitMad</a> <a href= "https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1438929830460989442?s=20"> If You, Then Me</a> by Yvonne Woon <a href="https://www.inbetweengirlfilm.com">In-Between Girl</a> <a href= "https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-blue-cities-became-so-outrageously-unaffordable/id1548604447?i=1000529794720"> The Ezra Klein Show: How Blue Cities Became So Outrageously Unaffordable</a> <a href= "https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/that-anxiety-youre-feeling-its-a-habit-you-can-unlearn/id1548604447?i=1000517873238"> The Ezra Klein Show: That Anxiety You’re Feeling?</a> <a href= "https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/672984/hana-khan-carries-on-by-uzma-jalaluddin/"> Hana Kh Carries On</a> by Uzma Jalaluddin About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter <a href= "https://twitter.com/truerwordspod">@truerwordspod</a> and on Instagram <a href= "https://www.instagram.com/truerwordspodcast/">@truerwordspodcast</a>. Contact us via our website, <a href= "http://truerwordspodcast.com">truerwordspodcast.com</a>, or email us at <a href= "mailto:truerwordspodcast@gmail.com">truerwordspodcast@gmail.com</a>.

<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;In the 68th episode of Truer Words, we speak with Michelle Quach about graphic design, unlikable female characters, and creating a love interest who does more than just the assigned reading. Michelle is the author of the debut YA, NOT HERE TO BE LIKED.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Michelle&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;can be found on Twitter&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "https://twitter.com/michellequach"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;@michellequach&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;and Instagram&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.instagram.com/_michellequach/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;@_michellequach&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;. Her website is&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.michellequach.com/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;michellequach.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Mentioned in this Episode:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://buttondown.email/goldplatedgirls/archive/never-have-i-ever-dead-dads-me/"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Gold-Plated Girls newsletter: ‘Never Have I Ever’ &amp; Dead Dads &amp; Me&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;by&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "https://twitter.com/victoriaedel"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Victoria Edel&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.laurahankin.com"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Laura Hankin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/608156/a-special-place-for-women-by-laura-hankin/9781984806260"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;A Special Place for Women&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Laura Hankin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.hbomax.com/series/urn:hbo:series:GYEabGA1pi19_ZwEAAAAK"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;The Other Two&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;on HBOMax&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.amazon.com/Munich-Eric-Bana/dp/B00HPS0IT8"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt; Munich&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80036165"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Schitt’s Creek&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;on Netflix&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://tv.apple.com/show/umc.cmc.vtoh0mn0xn7t3c643xqonfzy?itscg=MC_20000&amp;itsct=atvp_brand_omd&amp;mttn3pid=Google%20AdWords&amp;mttnagencyid=a5e&amp;mttncc=US&amp;mttnsiteid=143238&amp;mttnsubad=OUS2019863_1-535101970950-c&amp;mttnsubkw=105373391198__VmlGYEeG_&amp;mttnsubplmnt="&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Ted Lasso on Apple+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://twitter.com/constancegrady?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Constance Grady&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.vulture.com/article/ted-lasso-christmas-episode-serialization-debate.html"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Why a Christmas Episode Supercharged the&lt;/span&gt; &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Ted Lasso&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Debate&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Kathryn VanArendonk&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.hulu.com/series/reservation-dogs-5a310c23-e2db-4c9f-a66c-27c2fee43d92?&amp;cmp=12772&amp;utm_source=google&amp;utm_medium=cpc&amp;utm_campaign=BM_Search_FXonHulu_Google&amp;utm_term=hulu%20reservation%20dogs&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjw-ZCKBhBkEiwAM4qfF828bZ4kst2ydzcKwdC1BRFcD1Sy91cmjgPt9qsj7GHJVNj4aveQIxoC4ngQAvD_BwE&amp;gclsrc=aw.ds"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Reservation Dogs&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;on Hulu&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.hulu.com/series/only-murders-in-the-building-ef31c7e1-cd0f-4e07-848d-1cbfedb50ddf?cmp=11932&amp;utm_source=google&amp;utm_medium=cpc&amp;utm_campaign=CM_SEM_Various+Niche+Originals&amp;utm_term=only%20murders%20in%20the%20building&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjw-ZCKBhBkEiwAM4qfF1VnW5_9C4woz62iQj6DQYPlVqt8bgzHyUohUMUzjRnEVO12VfuGcBoChMsQAvD_BwE&amp;gclsrc=aw.ds"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Only Murders in the Building&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;on Hulu&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2006/06/05/moving-on-nora-ephron"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Moving On, A Love Story&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;- Nora Ephron Apthorp article&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/607289/portrait-of-a-scotsman-by-evie-dunmore/"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Portrait of a Scotsman&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Evie Dunmore&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/series/LX1/a-league-of-extraordinary-women/"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;League of Extraordinary Women series&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/669178/the-bookshop-of-second-chances-by-jackie-fraser/"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;The Bookshop of Second Chances&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Jackie Fraser&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/suddenly-you-lisa-kleypas/1100600160?bvstate=pg:2/ct:r"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Suddenly You&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;by LIsa Kleypas&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://fatedmates.net"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Fated Mates&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;podcast&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/28/books/sally-rooney-beautiful-world-where-are-you.html"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Sally Rooney&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.thecut.com/2021/09/why-is-the-sex-in-sally-rooneys-books-so-good.html"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Why is the Sex in Sally Rooney’s Novels So Good?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Amil Niazi&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExDPiPhLqEQ"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;She’s All That&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.amazon.com/Writing-Romantic-Comedy-Billy-Mernit/dp/0060935030"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Writing the Romantic Comedy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Billy Merritt&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.shakespeare.org.uk/explore-shakespeare/shakespedia/shakespeares-plays/macbeth/"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Macbeth&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life:_A_User%27s_Manual"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt; Life: A User’s Manual&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Georges Perec&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://thebookdoctors.com"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;The Book Doctors&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://pitchwars.org/pitmad/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;PitMad&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1438929830460989442?s=20"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt; If You, Then Me&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Yvonne Woon&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.inbetweengirlfilm.com"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;In-Between Girl&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-blue-cities-became-so-outrageously-unaffordable/id1548604447?i=1000529794720"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;The Ezra Klein Show: How Blue Cities Became So Outrageously Unaffordable&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/that-anxiety-youre-feeling-its-a-habit-you-can-unlearn/id1548604447?i=1000517873238"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;The Ezra Klein Show: That Anxiety You’re Feeling?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/672984/hana-khan-carries-on-by-uzma-jalaluddin/"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Hana Kh Carries On&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Uzma Jalaluddin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;About Us:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;You can follow us on Twitter&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "https://twitter.com/truerwordspod"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;@truerwordspod&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;and on Instagram&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.instagram.com/truerwordspodcast/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;@truerwordspodcast&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;. Contact us via our website,&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "http://truerwordspodcast.com"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;truerwordspodcast.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;, or email us at&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "mailto:truerwordspodcast@gmail.com"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;truerwordspodcast@gmail.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>

In the 68th episode of Truer Words, we speak with Michelle Quach about graphic design, unlikable female characters, and creating a love interest who does more than just the assigned reading. Michelle is the author of the debut YA, NOT HERE TO BE...

Michelle Quach

In the 67th episode of Truer Words, we speak with Emma Kress about writing girls in sports, taking risks, and social media as an author. Emma is the author of <a href= "https://www.emmakress.com/books">DANGEROUS PLAY</a>, available now! Emma can be found on Twitter <a href= "https://twitter.com/emma_kress">@emma_kress</a>, TikTok <a href= "https://www.tiktok.com/@emma_kress?lang=en">@emma_kress</a>, and Instagram <a href= "https://www.instagram.com/kress.emma/?hl=en">@kress.emma</a>. Her website is <a href= "https://www.emmakress.com">emmakress.com</a>. Mentioned in this Episode: <a href= "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_I_Wanna_Do_(1998_film)"> All I Wanna Do</a> <a href= "https://www.disneyplus.com/series/bluey/1xy9TAOQ0M3r">Bluey</a> <a href= "https://www.vulture.com/2021/05/bluey-best-kids-tv-show.html"> Bluey is the Best Kids’ Show of Our Time</a> by <a href= "https://twitter.com/kvanaren/">Kathryn VanArendonk</a> for Vulture <a href= "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Stanley"> Flat Stanley</a> <a href= "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMcKfO1wZfo">The Nanny</a> <a href= "https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Drawn-That-Way/Elissa-Sussman/9781534492974"> Drawn That Way</a> by Elissa Sussman <a href= "https://sarahjmaas.com/court-of-thorns-and-roses/">A Court of Thorns and Roses</a> by Sarah J. Maas <a href= "https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/series/B3I/irish-born-trilogy"> Born in Fire / Born in Ice / Born in Shame</a> (Irish Born trilogy) by Nora Roberts <a href= "https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/blue-castle-lucy-maud-montgomery/1100278298"> The Blue Castle</a> by L. M. Montgomery <a href= "https://sarahjmaas.com/court-of-thorns-and-roses/">Reservation Dogs</a> <a href= "http://www.wtfpod.com/podcast/episode-1252-sterlin-harjo"> Sterlin Harjo on WTF with Marc Maron</a> <a href= "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killers_of_the_Flower_Moon_(film)"> Killers of the Flower Moon movie</a> <a href= "https://deadline.com/2021/08/brendan-fraser-joins-killers-of-the-flower-moon-brothers-apple-martin-scorsese-legendary-1234808025/"> Brendan Fraser Joins Killers of the Flower Moon</a> <a href= "https://www.davidgrann.com/book/killers-of-the-flower-moon/"> Killers of the Flower Moon</a> by David Grann <a href= "https://www.hulu.com/series/the-great-house-revival-f307e002-aa46-487a-88f9-5781f92ff3c2"> The Great House Revival</a> <a href="https://cynthialeitichsmith.com">Cynthia Leitich-Smith</a> <a href= "http://www.maryquattlebaum.com/Mary_Quattlebaum/Welcome.html"> Mary Quattlebaum</a> <a href="https://www.as-king.com">Amy King</a> <a href="https://davidmacinnisgill.com">David Macinnis Gill</a> <a href= "https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/authors/2245931/a-r-capetta/"> A.R. Capetta</a> <a href= "https://www.greenhouseliterary.com/authors/cori-mccarthy/"> Cory McCarthy</a> <a href="https://novaren.com">Nova Ren Suma</a> <a href= "https://www.truerwordspodcast.com/episodes/2019/1/27/wmagx48233mlrfp72bii5rped55hh8"> Our episode with Nova Ren Suma</a> <a href="https://ruthware.com">Ruth Ware</a> <a href= "https://tirzahprice.com/pride-and-premeditation/">Pride and Premeditation</a> by Tirzah Price <a href= "https://www.truerwordspodcast.com/episodes/2020/10/18/tirzah-price"> Our episode with Tirzah Price</a> <a href= "https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/in-the-same-boat-holly-green/1137578739"> In the Same Boat</a> by Holly Green <a href="https://sarahdessen.com">Sarah Dessen</a> <a href= "https://www.harpercollins.com/products/when-you-look-like-us-pamela-n-harris?variant=32218749632546"> When You Look Like Us</a> by Pamela N. Harris <a href="https://www.hbo.com/mare-of-easttown">Mare of Easttown</a> <a href= "https://tv.apple.com/show/umc.cmc.vtoh0mn0xn7t3c643xqonfzy?itscg=MC_20000&itsct=atvp_brand_omd&mttn3pid=Google%20AdWords&mttnagencyid=a5e&mttncc=US&mttnsiteid=143238&mttnsubad=OUS2019863_1-535101970956-c&mttnsubkw=106182847425__rdMG7cVq_&mttnsubplmnt="> Ted Lasso</a> About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter <a href= "https://twitter.com/truerwordspod">@truerwordspod</a> and on Instagram <a href= "https://www.instagram.com/truerwordspodcast/">@truerwordspodcast</a>. Contact us via our website, <a href= "http://truerwordspodcast.com">truerwordspodcast.com</a>, or email us at <a href= "mailto:truerwordspodcast@gmail.com">truerwordspodcast@gmail.com</a>.

<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;In the 67th episode of Truer Words, we speak with Emma Kress about writing girls in sports, taking risks, and social media as an author.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Emma is the author of&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.emmakress.com/books"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;DANGEROUS PLAY&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;, available now! Emma&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;can be found on Twitter&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "https://twitter.com/emma_kress"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;@emma_kress&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;, TikTok&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.tiktok.com/@emma_kress?lang=en"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;@emma_kress&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;, and Instagram&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.instagram.com/kress.emma/?hl=en"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;@kress.emma&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;. Her website is&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.emmakress.com"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;emmakress.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Mentioned in this Episode:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_I_Wanna_Do_(1998_film)"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt; All I Wanna Do&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.disneyplus.com/series/bluey/1xy9TAOQ0M3r"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Bluey&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.vulture.com/2021/05/bluey-best-kids-tv-show.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt; Bluey is the Best Kids’ Show of Our Time&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;by&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "https://twitter.com/kvanaren/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Kathryn VanArendonk&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;for Vulture&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Stanley"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt; Flat Stanley&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMcKfO1wZfo"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;The Nanny&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Drawn-That-Way/Elissa-Sussman/9781534492974"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Drawn That Way&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Elissa Sussman&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://sarahjmaas.com/court-of-thorns-and-roses/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;A Court of Thorns and Roses&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Sarah J. Maas&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/series/B3I/irish-born-trilogy"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt; Born in Fire / Born in Ice / Born in Shame&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;(Irish Born trilogy) by Nora Roberts&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/blue-castle-lucy-maud-montgomery/1100278298"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;The Blue Castle&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;by L. M. Montgomery&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://sarahjmaas.com/court-of-thorns-and-roses/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Reservation Dogs&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "http://www.wtfpod.com/podcast/episode-1252-sterlin-harjo"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt; Sterlin Harjo on WTF with Marc Maron&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killers_of_the_Flower_Moon_(film)"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt; Killers of the Flower Moon movie&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://deadline.com/2021/08/brendan-fraser-joins-killers-of-the-flower-moon-brothers-apple-martin-scorsese-legendary-1234808025/"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Brendan Fraser Joins Killers of the Flower Moon&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.davidgrann.com/book/killers-of-the-flower-moon/"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt; Killers of the Flower Moon&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;by David Grann&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.hulu.com/series/the-great-house-revival-f307e002-aa46-487a-88f9-5781f92ff3c2"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;The Great House Revival&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://cynthialeitichsmith.com"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Cynthia Leitich-Smith&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "http://www.maryquattlebaum.com/Mary_Quattlebaum/Welcome.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt; Mary Quattlebaum&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.as-king.com"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Amy King&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://davidmacinnisgill.com"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;David Macinnis Gill&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/authors/2245931/a-r-capetta/"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt; A.R. Capetta&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.greenhouseliterary.com/authors/cori-mccarthy/"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt; Cory McCarthy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://novaren.com"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Nova Ren Suma&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.truerwordspodcast.com/episodes/2019/1/27/wmagx48233mlrfp72bii5rped55hh8"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Our episode with Nova Ren Suma&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://ruthware.com"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Ruth Ware&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://tirzahprice.com/pride-and-premeditation/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Pride and Premeditation&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Tirzah Price&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.truerwordspodcast.com/episodes/2020/10/18/tirzah-price"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Our episode with Tirzah Price&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/in-the-same-boat-holly-green/1137578739"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;In the Same Boat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Holly Green&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://sarahdessen.com"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Sarah Dessen&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.harpercollins.com/products/when-you-look-like-us-pamela-n-harris?variant=32218749632546"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;When You Look Like Us&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Pamela N. Harris&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.hbo.com/mare-of-easttown"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Mare of Easttown&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://tv.apple.com/show/umc.cmc.vtoh0mn0xn7t3c643xqonfzy?itscg=MC_20000&amp;itsct=atvp_brand_omd&amp;mttn3pid=Google%20AdWords&amp;mttnagencyid=a5e&amp;mttncc=US&amp;mttnsiteid=143238&amp;mttnsubad=OUS2019863_1-535101970956-c&amp;mttnsubkw=106182847425__rdMG7cVq_&amp;mttnsubplmnt="&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Ted Lasso&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;About Us:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;You can follow us on Twitter&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "https://twitter.com/truerwordspod"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;@truerwordspod&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;and on Instagram&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.instagram.com/truerwordspodcast/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;@truerwordspodcast&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;. Contact us via our website,&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "http://truerwordspodcast.com"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;truerwordspodcast.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;, or email us at&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "mailto:truerwordspodcast@gmail.com"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;truerwordspodcast@gmail.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>

In the 67th episode of Truer Words, we speak with Emma Kress about writing girls in sports, taking risks, and social media as an author. Emma is the author of , available now! Emma can be found on Twitter , TikTok , and Instagram . Her website is ....

Emma Kress

In the 66th episode of Truer Words, we speak with Margot Wood about Emma retellings, marketing a book as “queer,” and finding community in book lovers. Margot can be found on Twitter <a href= "https://twitter.com/margotwood">@margotwood</a> and Instagram <a href= "https://www.instagram.com/margotmwood/">@margotmwood</a>. Her website is <a href= "https://www.margotwood.com">margotwood.com</a>. Mentioned in this Episode: <a href="https://www.epicreads.com">Epic Reads</a> <a href= "https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwj-gM_u743yAhXQB4gJHaNOAZ0YABAAGgJxbg&ae=2&ohost=www.google.com&cid=CAESQOD28LEdmiTAKY7zeombD27gckz8WStUI5YXZN5o2o5B_t30r5OwMSFFe4-00zO4DggHCC6tfRLmCeRroRW5g7o&sig=AOD64_3tEqnKD6ktneyJAixsW6Kdr2z0Kw&q&adurl&ved=2ahUKEwju2MTu743yAhWLg-AKHZpFCL8Q0Qx6BAgDEAE&dct=1"> Immersive Van Gogh exhibit</a> <a href="https://www.carrieres-lumieres.com/en">Carrieres de</a> <a href= "https://www.atelier-lumieres.com/en">Lumières</a> <a href= "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_M%C3%A9li%C3%A8s"> Georges Méliès</a> <a href= "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hieronymus_Bosch">Hieronymous Bosch</a> <a href="https://www.atelier-lumieres.com/en">L’Atelier des Lumières Paris</a> <a href= "https://www.hbo.com/a-black-lady-sketch-show">A Black Lady Sketch Show</a> <a href= "https://www.townandcountrymag.com/the-scene/weddings/a37145535/issa-rae-louis-diame-wedding-france-photos/"> Issa Rae’s wedding photos</a> <a href= "https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/608156/a-special-place-for-women-by-laura-hankin/https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/608156/a-special-place-for-women-by-laura-hankin/"> A Special Place for Women</a> by Laura Hankin <a href= "https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/622536/while-we-were-dating-by-jasmine-guillory/"> While We Were Dating</a> by Jasmine Guillory <a href= "https://www.truerwordspodcast.com/episodes/2019/2/22/episode-6-jasmine-guillory"> Our episode with Jasmine</a> <a href= "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_(novel)"> Emma</a> by Jane Austen <a href= "https://www.amazon.com/Emma-Anya-Taylor-Joy/dp/B084PY4S4Z"> Emma (2020 film)</a> <a href="https://www.suzannecollinsbooks.com">The Hunger Games</a> by Suzanne Collins <a href="http://www.adriennekisner.com">Adrienne Kisner</a> <a href= "https://www.truerwordspodcast.com/episodes/2019/1/1/episode-1-adrienne-kisner"> Our episode with Adrienne</a> <a href= "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meisner_technique">Meisner technique</a> <a href="https://www.kierstenwhite.com">Kiersten White</a> <a href= "https://www.amazon.com/Alphasmart-NEO-AA-0410-10971-AQ-Neo-Handheld/dp/B007BHWRII"> Alphasmart Neo Typewriter</a> <a href="https://www.megcabot.com/princessdiaries/">The Princess Diaries</a> <a href= "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykHeGtN4m94">Love, Simon</a> <a href= "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR-l_TSjlEo">Insurgent</a> movie <a href= "https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Cheer-Up/Crystal-Frasier/9781620109557"> Cheer Up: Love and Pompoms</a> by Crystal Fraser <a href= "https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/609473/great-circle-by-maggie-shipstead/"> The Great Circle</a> by Maggie Shipstead <a href= "http://rubydixon.com/wordpress/series/ice-planet-barbarians/"> Ice Planet Barbarians</a> by Ruby Dixon <a href= "https://www.hulu.com/series/08cc467f-2057-4331-825a-1f993c79c862"> Bones</a> <a href= "https://www.hulu.com/series/f2c277c5-62b4-417c-b277-8435b70176dd"> Buffy the Vampire Slayer</a> <a href= "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freddie_Prinze_Jr.">Freddie Prinze Jr.</a> About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter <a href= "https://twitter.com/truerwordspod">@truerwordspod</a> and on Instagram <a href= "https://www.instagram.com/truerwordspodcast/">@truerwordspodcast</a>. Contact us via our website, <a href= "http://truerwordspodcast.com">truerwordspodcast.com</a>, or email us at <a href= "mailto:truerwordspodcast@gmail.com">truerwordspodcast@gmail.com</a>.

<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;In the 66th episode of Truer Words, we speak with Margot Wood about Emma retellings, marketing a book as “queer,” and finding community in book lovers.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Margot&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;can be found on Twitter&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "https://twitter.com/margotwood"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;@margotwood&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;and Instagram&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.instagram.com/margotmwood/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;@margotmwood&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;. Her website is&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.margotwood.com"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;margotwood.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Mentioned in this Episode:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.epicreads.com"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Epic Reads&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&amp;ai=DChcSEwj-gM_u743yAhXQB4gJHaNOAZ0YABAAGgJxbg&amp;ae=2&amp;ohost=www.google.com&amp;cid=CAESQOD28LEdmiTAKY7zeombD27gckz8WStUI5YXZN5o2o5B_t30r5OwMSFFe4-00zO4DggHCC6tfRLmCeRroRW5g7o&amp;sig=AOD64_3tEqnKD6ktneyJAixsW6Kdr2z0Kw&amp;q&amp;adurl&amp;ved=2ahUKEwju2MTu743yAhWLg-AKHZpFCL8Q0Qx6BAgDEAE&amp;dct=1"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Immersive Van Gogh exhibit&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.carrieres-lumieres.com/en"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Carrieres de&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.atelier-lumieres.com/en"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Lumières&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_M%C3%A9li%C3%A8s"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt; Georges Méliès&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hieronymus_Bosch"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Hieronymous Bosch&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.atelier-lumieres.com/en"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;L’Atelier des Lumières Paris&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.hbo.com/a-black-lady-sketch-show"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;A Black Lady Sketch Show&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.townandcountrymag.com/the-scene/weddings/a37145535/issa-rae-louis-diame-wedding-france-photos/"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Issa Rae’s wedding photos&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/608156/a-special-place-for-women-by-laura-hankin/https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/608156/a-special-place-for-women-by-laura-hankin/"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;A Special Place for Women&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Laura Hankin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/622536/while-we-were-dating-by-jasmine-guillory/"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;While We Were Dating&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Jasmine Guillory&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.truerwordspodcast.com/episodes/2019/2/22/episode-6-jasmine-guillory"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Our episode with Jasmine&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_(novel)"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt; Emma&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Jane Austen&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.amazon.com/Emma-Anya-Taylor-Joy/dp/B084PY4S4Z"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt; Emma (2020 film)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.suzannecollinsbooks.com"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;The Hunger Games&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Suzanne Collins&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.adriennekisner.com"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Adrienne Kisner&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.truerwordspodcast.com/episodes/2019/1/1/episode-1-adrienne-kisner"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Our episode with Adrienne&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meisner_technique"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Meisner technique&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.kierstenwhite.com"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Kiersten White&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.amazon.com/Alphasmart-NEO-AA-0410-10971-AQ-Neo-Handheld/dp/B007BHWRII"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Alphasmart Neo Typewriter&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.megcabot.com/princessdiaries/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;The Princess Diaries&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykHeGtN4m94"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Love, Simon&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR-l_TSjlEo"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Insurgent&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;movie&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Cheer-Up/Crystal-Frasier/9781620109557"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Cheer Up: Love and Pompoms&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Crystal Fraser&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/609473/great-circle-by-maggie-shipstead/"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;The Great Circle&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Maggie Shipstead&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "http://rubydixon.com/wordpress/series/ice-planet-barbarians/"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt; Ice Planet Barbarians&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Ruby Dixon&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.hulu.com/series/08cc467f-2057-4331-825a-1f993c79c862"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt; Bones&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.hulu.com/series/f2c277c5-62b4-417c-b277-8435b70176dd"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt; Buffy the Vampire Slayer&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freddie_Prinze_Jr."&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Freddie Prinze Jr.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; 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In the 66th episode of Truer Words, we speak with Margot Wood about Emma retellings, marketing a book as “queer,” and finding community in book lovers. Margot can be found on Twitter  and Instagram . Her website is . Mentioned in this Episode:    ...

Margot Wood

In the 65th episode of Truer Words, we speak with Azadeh Westergaard about illustration, the joys of research, and Nikola Tesla. Azadeh is the author of <a href= "https://www.ahwestergaard.com/book">A LIFE ELECTRIC: THE STORY OF NIKOLA TESLA</a>. She can be found on Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/ahwestergaard">@ahwestergaard</a> and Instagram <a href= "https://www.instagram.com/ahwestergaard/">@ahwestergaard</a>. Her website is <a href= "https://www.ahwestergaard.com">ahwestergaard.com</a>. Mentioned in this Episode: <a href= "https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwj-ob_lw-3xAhWYhMgKHYWeAhsYABAAGgJxdQ&ae=2&ohost=www.google.com&cid=CAESQOD2EYH9DKWOqlTfKaCjpJETn3NMHriYDqTaQef7OzJCo6bSUKHBFGCkCl_khVKyccDytmwvin9IYBBAhHUB0Ak&sig=AOD64_2reDtCAQRQJVlsAz9DrVtrzqB4pg&q&adurl&ved=2ahUKEwjJ-rTlw-3xAhX0KFkFHSpnDyIQ0Qx6BAgCEAE&dct=1"> Vermont College of Fine Arts Writing for Children and Young Adults</a> <a href= "https://www.audible.com/pd/Heartburn-Audiobook/B009S8FXS4"> Heartburn by Nora Ephron audiobook read by Meryl Streep</a> <a href= "https://www.amazon.com/Heartburn-Meryl-Streep/dp/B0023UZOFQ"> Heartburn movie</a> <a href= "https://www.newyorker.com/culture/annals-of-gastronomy/nora-ephrons-heartburn-is-an-ideal-audiobook"> Nora Ephron’s “Heartburn” is an Ideal Audiobook</a> by Helen Rosner <a href= "https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/867538-vera-said-why-do-you-feel-you-have-to-turn"> Quotation from Heartburn</a> <a href="https://www.margotwood.com/fresh">Fresh</a> by Margot Wood <a href= "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_(novel)"> Emma</a> by Jane Austen <a href= "https://www.hbomax.com/feature/urn:hbo:feature:GYHeEcQ0WvMPDwwEAAAAv?utm_id=sa%7C71700000084146706%7C58700007108522636%7Cp63945183408&gclid=CjwKCAjwos-HBhB3EiwAe4xM9yVkTCSy-nJOt96neKgfEMh4dint-xqAL2gJEJ2LYgg-863TQJR4yhoCjbAQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds"> Clueless</a> <a href= "https://www.hbomax.com/grw-js?utm_id=sa%7C71700000082906735%7C58700007037259624%7Cp63322868077&gclid=CjwKCAjwos-HBhB3EiwAe4xM93S-ok1-M8EzdZJg6v-3cSozkUbnw-l4IMwvSWbzmph7b4VT11C4fxoC1JMQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds"> Hacks</a> <a href= "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM4zqYR_lKg">Joan Rivers: A Piece of Work</a> <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80179190">Never Have I Ever</a> <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80240027">Virgin River</a> <a href="https://www.marvel.com/movies/black-widow">Black Widow</a> <a href= "https://www.grandcentralpublishing.com/titles/tia-williams/seven-days-in-june/9781538719114/"> Seven Days in June</a> <a href= "https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/616953/thanks-for-waiting-by-doree-shafrir/"> Thanks for Waiting</a> by Doree Shafrir <a href="https://forever35podcast.com">Forever35 podcast</a> <a href= "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amelia_Bedelia">Amelia Bedelia</a> <a href= "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roseanne_Roseannadanna">Roseanne Rosannadanna</a> <a href= "https://www.instagram.com/juliasardaportabella/?hl=en"> Júlia Sardà</a> (illustrator of Azadeh’s book) <a href= "https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/566197/she-made-a-monster-how-mary-shelley-created-frankenstein-by-lynn-fulton-illustrated-by-felicita-sala/"> She Made a Monster: How Mary Shelley Created Frankenstein</a> by Lynn Fulton <a href= "https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/mary-who-wrote-frankenstein-linda-bailey/1127582765"> Mary Who Wrote Frankenstein</a> by Linda Bailey, illustrated by Júlia Sardà <a href="https://www.laurahankin.com">Laura Hankin</a> <a href= "https://www.oprahdaily.com/entertainment/books/a36651537/andrea-bartz-laura-hankin-the-herd-special-place-for-women-interview/"> Andrea Bartz and Laura Hankin Talk About Accidentally Writing Similar Novels</a> <a href="https://www.elizabethgilbert.com/bio/">Elizabeth Gilbert</a> <a href="http://www.annpatchett.com">Ann Patchett</a> <a href= "https://www.elizabethgilbert.com/books/big-magic/">Big Magic</a> <a href="https://www.newspapers.com">Newspapers.com</a> <a href="https://nikolateslamuseum.org/en/">Nikola Tesla Museum</a> <a href="https://www.nypl.org">New York Public Library</a> <a href="https://archive.org">Archive.org</a> <a href="https://www.nypl.org/locations/lpa">New York Public Library for the Performing Arts</a> <a href= "https://www.nypl.org/locations/lpa/theatre-film-and-tape-archive"> Theatre on Film and Tape Archive</a> <a href= "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxFS8okUqKk">Oklahoma! on Broadway</a> <a href= "https://shop.scholastic.com/teachers-ecommerce/teacher/books/on-a-beam-of-light-9780545657051.html"> On a Beam of Light: A Story of Albert Einstein</a> by Jennifer Berne <a href="https://lizgartonscanlon.com">Liz Garton Scanlon</a> <a href="https://mairakalman.com">Maira Kalman</a> <a href= "https://mairakalman.com/oohlala-max-in-love">Ooh-La-La Max in Love</a> by Maira Kalman <a href="https://sva.edu">School of Visual Arts</a> <a href="https://www.monicawellington.com">Monica Wellington</a> <a href= "http://www.maryquattlebaum.com/Mary_Quattlebaum/Welcome.html"> Mary Quattlebaum</a> <a href= "http://martha-brockenbrough.squarespace.com">Martha Brockenbrough</a> <a href="https://www.lindaurbanbooks.com">Linda Urban</a> <a href="https://www.patentpendingnyc.com">Patent Pending</a> bar <a href= "https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/08/style/patent-pending-radio-wave-building.html"> Patent Pending in Nomad is a Cafe by Day, Speakeasy by Night</a> <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80133335">Call My Agent!</a> <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80130521">The Worst Witch</a> <a href= "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Worst_Witch">The Worst Witch books</a> by Jill Murphy <a href= "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sing_(2016_American_film)"> Sing</a> <a href= "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPZu5MA2uqI">Sing 2</a> <a href= "https://www.amazon.com/Misery-James-Caan/dp/B002QUPWZU"> Misery</a> <a href= "https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Pokko-and-the-Drum/Matthew-Forsythe/9781481480390"> Pokko and the Drum</a> by Matthew Forsythe <a href= "https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Scribner-Anthology-of-Contemporary-Short-Fiction/Lex-Williford/9781416532279"> The Scribner Anthology of Contemporary Short Fiction</a> <a href= "https://www.randomhouse.com/kvpa/jhumpalahiri/">Jhumpa Lahiri</a> <a href= "http://writ101van.weebly.com/uploads/2/2/7/3/22735066/packer_brownies.pdf"> “Brownies” by ZZ Packer</a> <a href= "https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2479263.The_Aspiring_Poet_s_Journal"> The Aspiring Poet’s Journal</a> About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter <a href= "https://twitter.com/truerwordspod">@truerwordspod</a> and on Instagram <a href= "https://www.instagram.com/truerwordspodcast/">@truerwordspodcast</a>. Contact us via our website, <a href= "http://truerwordspodcast.com">truerwordspodcast.com</a>, or email us at <a href= "mailto:truerwordspodcast@gmail.com">truerwordspodcast@gmail.com</a>.

<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;In the 65th episode of Truer Words, we speak with Azadeh Westergaard about illustration, the joys of research, and Nikola Tesla.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Azadeh is the author of&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.ahwestergaard.com/book"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;A LIFE ELECTRIC: THE STORY OF NIKOLA TESLA&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;. She&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;can be found on Twitter&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/ahwestergaard"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;@ahwestergaard&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;and Instagram&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.instagram.com/ahwestergaard/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;@ahwestergaard&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;. Her website is&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.ahwestergaard.com"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;ahwestergaard.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Mentioned in this Episode:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&amp;ai=DChcSEwj-ob_lw-3xAhWYhMgKHYWeAhsYABAAGgJxdQ&amp;ae=2&amp;ohost=www.google.com&amp;cid=CAESQOD2EYH9DKWOqlTfKaCjpJETn3NMHriYDqTaQef7OzJCo6bSUKHBFGCkCl_khVKyccDytmwvin9IYBBAhHUB0Ak&amp;sig=AOD64_2reDtCAQRQJVlsAz9DrVtrzqB4pg&amp;q&amp;adurl&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjJ-rTlw-3xAhX0KFkFHSpnDyIQ0Qx6BAgCEAE&amp;dct=1"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Vermont College of Fine Arts Writing for Children and Young Adults&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.audible.com/pd/Heartburn-Audiobook/B009S8FXS4"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt; Heartburn by Nora Ephron audiobook read by Meryl Streep&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.amazon.com/Heartburn-Meryl-Streep/dp/B0023UZOFQ"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt; Heartburn movie&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.newyorker.com/culture/annals-of-gastronomy/nora-ephrons-heartburn-is-an-ideal-audiobook"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Nora Ephron’s “Heartburn” is an Ideal Audiobook&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Helen Rosner&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/867538-vera-said-why-do-you-feel-you-have-to-turn"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Quotation from Heartburn&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.margotwood.com/fresh"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Fresh&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Margot Wood&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_(novel)"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt; Emma&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Jane Austen&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.hbomax.com/feature/urn:hbo:feature:GYHeEcQ0WvMPDwwEAAAAv?utm_id=sa%7C71700000084146706%7C58700007108522636%7Cp63945183408&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjwos-HBhB3EiwAe4xM9yVkTCSy-nJOt96neKgfEMh4dint-xqAL2gJEJ2LYgg-863TQJR4yhoCjbAQAvD_BwE&amp;gclsrc=aw.ds"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Clueless&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.hbomax.com/grw-js?utm_id=sa%7C71700000082906735%7C58700007037259624%7Cp63322868077&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjwos-HBhB3EiwAe4xM93S-ok1-M8EzdZJg6v-3cSozkUbnw-l4IMwvSWbzmph7b4VT11C4fxoC1JMQAvD_BwE&amp;gclsrc=aw.ds"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Hacks&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM4zqYR_lKg"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Joan Rivers: A Piece of Work&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80179190"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Never Have I Ever&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; 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&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roseanne_Roseannadanna"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Roseanne Rosannadanna&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.instagram.com/juliasardaportabella/?hl=en"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt; Júlia Sardà&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;(illustrator of Azadeh’s book)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/566197/she-made-a-monster-how-mary-shelley-created-frankenstein-by-lynn-fulton-illustrated-by-felicita-sala/"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;She Made a Monster: How Mary Shelley Created Frankenstein&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Lynn Fulton&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/mary-who-wrote-frankenstein-linda-bailey/1127582765"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Mary Who Wrote Frankenstein&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Linda Bailey, illustrated by Júlia Sardà&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; 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&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://nikolateslamuseum.org/en/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Nikola Tesla Museum&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.nypl.org"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;New York Public Library&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://archive.org"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Archive.org&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.nypl.org/locations/lpa"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;New York Public Library for the Performing Arts&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.nypl.org/locations/lpa/theatre-film-and-tape-archive"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt; Theatre on Film and Tape Archive&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxFS8okUqKk"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Oklahoma! on Broadway&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://shop.scholastic.com/teachers-ecommerce/teacher/books/on-a-beam-of-light-9780545657051.html"&gt; 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Mary Quattlebaum&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "http://martha-brockenbrough.squarespace.com"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Martha Brockenbrough&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.lindaurbanbooks.com"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Linda Urban&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.patentpendingnyc.com"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Patent Pending&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;bar&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/08/style/patent-pending-radio-wave-building.html"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Patent Pending in Nomad is a Cafe by Day, Speakeasy by Night&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80133335"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Call My Agent!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80130521"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;The Worst Witch&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Worst_Witch"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;The Worst Witch books&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Jill Murphy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sing_(2016_American_film)"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt; Sing&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPZu5MA2uqI"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Sing 2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.amazon.com/Misery-James-Caan/dp/B002QUPWZU"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt; Misery&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Pokko-and-the-Drum/Matthew-Forsythe/9781481480390"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Pokko and the Drum&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Matthew Forsythe&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Scribner-Anthology-of-Contemporary-Short-Fiction/Lex-Williford/9781416532279"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;The Scribner Anthology of Contemporary Short Fiction&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.randomhouse.com/kvpa/jhumpalahiri/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Jhumpa Lahiri&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "http://writ101van.weebly.com/uploads/2/2/7/3/22735066/packer_brownies.pdf"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;“Brownies” by ZZ Packer&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2479263.The_Aspiring_Poet_s_Journal"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;The Aspiring Poet’s Journal&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;About Us:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;You can follow us on Twitter&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "https://twitter.com/truerwordspod"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;@truerwordspod&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;and on Instagram&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.instagram.com/truerwordspodcast/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;@truerwordspodcast&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;. Contact us via our website,&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "http://truerwordspodcast.com"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;truerwordspodcast.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;, or email us at&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "mailto:truerwordspodcast@gmail.com"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;truerwordspodcast@gmail.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;</description>

In the 65th episode of Truer Words, we speak with Azadeh Westergaard about illustration, the joys of research, and Nikola Tesla. Azadeh is the author of . She can be found on Twitter  and Instagram . Her website is . Mentioned in this Episode:     by...

Azadeh Westergaard

In the 64th episode of Truer Words, we speak with Cassie Gustafson about writing about sexual assault responsibly, loving dark stories, and Tana French. Cassie can be found on Twitter <a href= "https://twitter.com/cassiegusty">@cassiegusty</a> and Instagram <a href= "https://www.instagram.com/cassiegusty/">@cassiegusty</a>. Her website is <a href= "https://www.cassiegustafson.com/about">cassiegustafson.com</a>. Mentioned in this Episode: <a href="https://djerassi.org">Djerassi</a> <a href="https://novaren.com">Nova Ren Suma</a> <a href= "https://www.truerwordspodcast.com/episodes/2019/1/27/wmagx48233mlrfp72bii5rped55hh8"> Our episode with Nova Ren Suma</a> <a href= "https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/world-of-our-fathers-irving-howe/1100423338"> World of Our Fathers: The Journey of Eastern European Jews and the Life They Found and Made</a> by Irving Howe <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norma_Klein">Norma Klein</a> <a href= "https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/205646.Just_Friends"> Just Friends</a> <a href= "https://www.indiewire.com/2021/01/margaret-extended-cut-kenneth-lonergan-hbo-max-1234607360/"> Margaret</a> <a href= "https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/11/07/the-cinematic-traumas-of-kenneth-lonergan"> The Cinematic Traumas of Kenneth Lonergan</a> <a href= "https://www.brightwalldarkroom.com/2018/06/13/you-have-to-fail-a-little-on-hearts-of-darkness/"> Melissa’s Bright Wall / Dark Room essay</a> <a href= "https://www.brightwalldarkroom.com/magazine/issues/issue41/"> Margaret issue of Bright Wall / Dark Room</a> <ol> <li><a href= "https://twitter.com/j_smithcameron?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor"> Smith-Cameron</a></li> </ol> <a href= "https://www.hbomax.com/series/urn:hbo:series:GWukCJAq-nIuHwwEAAAB4?utm_id=sa%7C71700000066890720%7C58700007073198424%7Cp63653193603&gclid=CjwKCAjwuIWHBhBDEiwACXQYsfdR90fUqEmExYrFTQ9Vk4PIx6wsmCo9XH6A0aVyM8sF4XX2rKlIGRoCrGIQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds"> Succession</a> <a href= "https://www.amazon.com/You-Can-Count-Laura-Linney/dp/B000I9W2M2"> You Can Count on Me</a> <a href= "https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.1ead76ad-34f1-6efc-cb00-5e7ad3d3cd07/ref=dv_web_auth_no_re_sig?ie=UTF8&autoplay=1&"> Manchester by the Sea</a> <a href= "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angels_in_America">Angels in America</a> <a href= "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZhAdfMCb9s">West Side Story</a> <a href= "https://www.amazon.com/Gosford-Park-Maggie-Smith/dp/B000I543SM"> Gosford Park</a> <a href= "https://www.maureenjohnsonbooks.com/book/the-box-in-the-woods/"> The Box in the Woods</a> by Maureen Johnson <a href= "https://www.maureenjohnsonbooks.com/the-truly-devious-series/"> Truly Devious Trilogy</a> by Maureen Johnson <a href= "https://juliacameronlive.com/the-artists-way/">The Artist’s Way</a> by Julia Cameron <a href= "https://juliacameronlive.com/books-by-julia/finding-water-the-art-of-perseverance/"> Finding Water</a> by Julia Cameron <a href= "https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/06/burnout-medical-condition-pandemic/619321/"> By Now, Burnout is a Given</a> <a href="https://buffy.fandom.com/wiki/Band_Candy">Band Candy</a> <a href= "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=893fEietPbQ">Earshot - Buffy saves Jonathan</a> <a href= "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Strong"> Danny Strong</a> <a href="https://madwomanintheforest.com">Laurie Halse Anderson</a> <a href= "https://madwomanintheforest.com/book/speak/">Speak</a> <a href="https://www.tanafrench.com">Tana French</a> <a href= "https://www.tanafrench.com/books/the-secret-place-tr">The Secret Place</a> by Tana French <a href= "https://www.tanafrench.com/books/the-trespasser-tr">The Trespasser</a> by Tana French <a href= "https://www.tanafrench.com/books/in-the-woods-tr">In the Woods</a> by Tana French <a href="https://lauriestolarz.com">Laurie Faria Stolarz</a> <a href= "https://lauriestolarz.com/book/jane-anonymous/">Jane Anonymous</a> by Laurie Faria Stolarz <a href= "https://lauriestolarz.com/book/the-last-secret-youll-ever-keep/"> The Last Secret You’ll Ever Keep</a> by Laurie Faria Stolarz <a href="https://www.aiden-thomas.com/never-woods">Lost in the Never Woods</a> by Aiden Thomas <a href= "https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250315328">A Song Below Water</a> by Bethany C. Morrow <a href= "https://www.hulu.com/series/the-handmaids-tale-565d8976-9d26-4e63-866c-40f8a137ce5f"> The Handmaid’s Tale</a> on Hulu <a href= "https://www.npr.org/2021/02/15/965590794/robin-wright-makes-her-feature-directorial-debut-in-land"> Land</a> directed by Robin Wright <a href="https://www.nbc.com/songland">Songland</a> About Us: Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy. You can follow us on Twitter <a href= "https://twitter.com/truerwordspod">@truerwordspod</a> and on Instagram <a href= "https://www.instagram.com/truerwordspodcast/">@truerwordspodcast</a>. Contact us via our website, <a href= "http://truerwordspodcast.com">truerwordspodcast.com</a>, or email us at <a href= "mailto:truerwordspodcast@gmail.com">truerwordspodcast@gmail.com</a>.

<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;In the 64th episode of Truer Words, we speak with Cassie Gustafson about writing about sexual assault responsibly, loving dark stories, and Tana French.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Cassie&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;can be found on Twitter&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "https://twitter.com/cassiegusty"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;@cassiegusty&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;and Instagram&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.instagram.com/cassiegusty/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;@cassiegusty&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;. Her website is&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.cassiegustafson.com/about"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;cassiegustafson.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Mentioned in this Episode:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://djerassi.org"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Djerassi&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://novaren.com"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Nova Ren Suma&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.truerwordspodcast.com/episodes/2019/1/27/wmagx48233mlrfp72bii5rped55hh8"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Our episode with Nova Ren Suma&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/world-of-our-fathers-irving-howe/1100423338"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;World of Our Fathers: The Journey of Eastern European Jews and the Life They Found and Made&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Irving Howe&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norma_Klein"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Norma Klein&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/205646.Just_Friends"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt; Just Friends&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.indiewire.com/2021/01/margaret-extended-cut-kenneth-lonergan-hbo-max-1234607360/"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Margaret&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/11/07/the-cinematic-traumas-of-kenneth-lonergan"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;The Cinematic Traumas of Kenneth Lonergan&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.brightwalldarkroom.com/2018/06/13/you-have-to-fail-a-little-on-hearts-of-darkness/"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Melissa’s Bright Wall / Dark Room essay&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.brightwalldarkroom.com/magazine/issues/issue41/"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt; Margaret issue of Bright Wall / Dark Room&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ol&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "https://twitter.com/j_smithcameron?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Smith-Cameron&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ol&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.hbomax.com/series/urn:hbo:series:GWukCJAq-nIuHwwEAAAB4?utm_id=sa%7C71700000066890720%7C58700007073198424%7Cp63653193603&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjwuIWHBhBDEiwACXQYsfdR90fUqEmExYrFTQ9Vk4PIx6wsmCo9XH6A0aVyM8sF4XX2rKlIGRoCrGIQAvD_BwE&amp;gclsrc=aw.ds"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Succession&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.amazon.com/You-Can-Count-Laura-Linney/dp/B000I9W2M2"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt; You Can Count on Me&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.1ead76ad-34f1-6efc-cb00-5e7ad3d3cd07/ref=dv_web_auth_no_re_sig?ie=UTF8&amp;autoplay=1&amp;"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Manchester by the Sea&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angels_in_America"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Angels in America&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZhAdfMCb9s"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;West Side Story&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.amazon.com/Gosford-Park-Maggie-Smith/dp/B000I543SM"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt; Gosford Park&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.maureenjohnsonbooks.com/book/the-box-in-the-woods/"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt; The Box in the Woods&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Maureen Johnson&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.maureenjohnsonbooks.com/the-truly-devious-series/"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt; Truly Devious Trilogy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Maureen Johnson&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://juliacameronlive.com/the-artists-way/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;The Artist’s Way&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Julia Cameron&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://juliacameronlive.com/books-by-julia/finding-water-the-art-of-perseverance/"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Finding Water&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Julia Cameron&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/06/burnout-medical-condition-pandemic/619321/"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;By Now, Burnout is a Given&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://buffy.fandom.com/wiki/Band_Candy"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Band Candy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=893fEietPbQ"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Earshot - Buffy saves Jonathan&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Strong"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt; Danny Strong&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://madwomanintheforest.com"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Laurie Halse Anderson&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://madwomanintheforest.com/book/speak/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Speak&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.tanafrench.com"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Tana French&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.tanafrench.com/books/the-secret-place-tr"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;The Secret Place&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Tana French&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.tanafrench.com/books/the-trespasser-tr"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;The Trespasser&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Tana French&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.tanafrench.com/books/in-the-woods-tr"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;In the Woods&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Tana French&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://lauriestolarz.com"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Laurie Faria Stolarz&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://lauriestolarz.com/book/jane-anonymous/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Jane Anonymous&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Laurie Faria Stolarz&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://lauriestolarz.com/book/the-last-secret-youll-ever-keep/"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt; The Last Secret You’ll Ever Keep&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Laurie Faria Stolarz&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.aiden-thomas.com/never-woods"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Lost in the Never Woods&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Aiden Thomas&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250315328"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;A Song Below Water&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;by Bethany C. Morrow&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.hulu.com/series/the-handmaids-tale-565d8976-9d26-4e63-866c-40f8a137ce5f"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;The Handmaid’s Tale&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;on Hulu&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.npr.org/2021/02/15/965590794/robin-wright-makes-her-feature-directorial-debut-in-land"&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Land&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;directed by Robin Wright&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.nbc.com/songland"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;Songland&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;About Us:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;You can follow us on Twitter&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "https://twitter.com/truerwordspod"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;@truerwordspod&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;and on Instagram&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.instagram.com/truerwordspodcast/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;@truerwordspodcast&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;. Contact us via our website,&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "http://truerwordspodcast.com"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;truerwordspodcast.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;, or email us at&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "mailto:truerwordspodcast@gmail.com"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-weight: 400;"&gt;truerwordspodcast@gmail.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: 400;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>

In the 64th episode of Truer Words, we speak with Cassie Gustafson about writing about sexual assault responsibly, loving dark stories, and Tana French. Cassie can be found on Twitter  and Instagram . Her website is . Mentioned in this Episode:     by...

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