Insider Interviews: Media and Marketing Pros
Insider Interviews: Media and Marketing Pros

Insider Interviews: Media and Marketing Pros

E.B. Moss

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Media, Marketing, Advertising and Entertainment executives give an insider’s view of the business of the industry. Compelling conversations on creating TV, advertising, audio, research and more, with host, E.B. Moss.

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She-Cam Interviews with Women in Tech at CES: A Bonus Episode
JAN 22, 2026
She-Cam Interviews with Women in Tech at CES: A Bonus Episode
<h3>It&#8217;s a fast but mighty 20 minute bonus episode of <em>Insider Interviews</em>! Took my “she-cam” on another* spontaneous journey through the Consumer Electronics Show (CES 2026) to speak with six different women, of six different tech and media areas. They provided first-hand insights on #AI, content, and advertising.</h3> <p><strong>These industry leaders span audio, advertising and age tech, sports, streaming, and out of home, so there&#8217;s really something for everyone!</strong><br /> <strong>Quick coverage bites include:</strong></p> <figure id="attachment_1837" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1837" style="width: 169px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1837 size-medium" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Vobble-cover-169x300.jpg" alt="" width="169" height="300" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Vobble-cover-169x300.jpg 169w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Vobble-cover.jpg 400w" sizes="(max-width: 169px) 100vw, 169px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1837" class="wp-caption-text">Vobble at CES</figcaption></figure> <p>• A snippet about &#8216;<a href="https://vobble.us/">Vobble</a>,&#8217; an interactive audio device that lets kids build stories; MY sound didn&#8217;t do it justice, but your kid might love it IRL (and you might love it as a bedtime story aid!)</p> <p>• A walk through the innovations for better health and aging in place via the <strong><a href="https://agetechcollaborative.org/">Age Tech Collaborative from AARP</a></strong>, thanks to their VP of Startup Programming, <strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/amelia-hay-4122874/">Amelia Hay.</a></strong></p> <p><img decoding="async" class="alignright wp-image-1839" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/age-tech-small.jpg" alt="" width="406" height="291" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/age-tech-small.jpg 575w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/age-tech-small-300x215.jpg 300w" sizes="(max-width: 406px) 100vw, 406px" />A la this being an episode with all women in tech and media, as Amelia said of the Collaborative: <em>&#8220;We have over 200 startups in the collaborative, and probably 40% are women founders&#8230; I think we&#8217;re really pushing that envelope and putting our stake in the ground in technology.&#8221;</em> (PS: did I mention I&#8217;d love that sleep-helper AND the hearing-helping eyeglasses from <a href="https://www.essilorluxottica.com/en/2023highlights/nuance-audio/">EssilorLuxotica</a> on display there?!)</p> <figure id="attachment_1840" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1840" style="width: 319px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><img decoding="async" class=" wp-image-1840" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/brightline-ad-300x183.jpg" alt="" width="319" height="195" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/brightline-ad-300x183.jpg 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/brightline-ad.jpg 636w" sizes="(max-width: 319px) 100vw, 319px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1840" class="wp-caption-text">BrightLine Interactive Ads</figcaption></figure> <p>• I got a lesson in the history of ad innovations and how to apply “<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Changemaker-Playbook-Creating-Personal-Transformational/dp/1394305346"><em>Changemaker</em></a>” thinking, from <strong><a href="https://www.brightline.tv/">Brightline</a></strong> (and SustainChain) founder, and now author, <strong><a href="https://www.jacquelinecorbelli.com/">Jacqueline Corbelli</a></strong>, who I call “the doyenne of interactive advertising!”</p> <p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class=" wp-image-1841 alignright" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/jacquie-eb-300x229.jpg" alt="" width="302" height="231" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/jacquie-eb-300x229.jpg 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/jacquie-eb-1024x782.jpg 1024w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/jacquie-eb-768x587.jpg 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/jacquie-eb.jpg 1348w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 302px) 100vw, 302px" />A simple summary of &#8220;changemaker&#8221; playbook is what Jacquie has done her entire career: <strong><em>&#8220;Think about what you want and go further&#8230;&#8221;</em></strong></p> <p>• A chat with the dual founder of Sports Studio, Inc. and <strong><a href="https://www.rasenbergermedia.com/about-us">Rasenberger Media</a>,</strong> <strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/cathy-rasenberger-3300a39/">Cathy Rasenberger</a></strong> , illuminated how her freshman streaming platform is scoring distribution wins, perhaps because it&#8217;s appropriately named &#8220;<strong><a href="https://www.freelivesports.tv/">Free Live Sports</a></strong>&#8220;?!</p> <figure id="attachment_1842" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1842" style="width: 174px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1842 size-medium" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/fls-174x300.jpg" alt="" width="174" height="300" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/fls-174x300.jpg 174w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/fls.jpg 444w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 174px) 100vw, 174px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1842" class="wp-caption-text">FreeLive Sports</figcaption></figure> <p>Cheers to them for <em>&#8220;aggregating more free sports content than any other platform&#8230; We&#8217;re democratizing sports for all the fans.&#8221;</em></p> <p>• <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/stacy-minero-79287b4/">S<strong>tacy Minero</strong></a>, newly named CMO of <a href="https://www.outfront.com/"><strong>Outfront Medi</strong>a</a>, and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/erindaileyharris/"><strong>Erin Har</strong>ris</a>, Head of Fluency Sales for <strong><a href="https://www.siriusxm.com/">SiriusXM</a></strong>, explain changes in their now UNtraditional mediums and how they each are leveraging AI to power creative and efficient DOOH advertising and audio content, respectively.</p> <p>Erin noted that, <strong>&#8220;<em>We still see the strongest performance with human voice, but we&#8217;re extremely excited about AI in terms of helping us find little levers to pull, to make things more personal.&#8221; </em></strong></p> <p>And as Stacy added:</p> <blockquote><p><em><strong>&#8220;There&#8217;s a huge opportunity for AI to unlock productivity, especially in the area of post-production&#8230; to do some of the grunt work so that people can focus on the fun work.&#8221;</strong></em></p> <figure id="attachment_1843" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1843" style="width: 354px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class=" wp-image-1843" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/interactive2AI.jpg" alt="" width="354" height="441" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/interactive2AI.jpg 486w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/interactive2AI-241x300.jpg 241w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 354px) 100vw, 354px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1843" class="wp-caption-text">AI meets Outfront Media</figcaption></figure></blockquote> <p><strong>We say, &#8220;YES!&#8221;</strong></p> <p><strong>Don’t miss out on learning from each of these powerhouse women and their compelling companies.</strong></p> <p>*And don&#8217;t miss my <a href="http://bit.ly/Insider-WhatsNext-CES">last full episode</a> &#8212; also captured at CES &#8212; with executives in audio, video and brand marketing!</p> <h3>Connect with E.B. Moss and <em>Insider Interviews: With Media &#38; Marketing Experts           </em></h3> <h4><strong>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mossappeal">https://www.linkedin.com/in/mossappeal</a><br /> </strong><strong>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/insiderinterviews">https://www.instagram.com/insiderinterviews</a></strong><br /> <strong>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/InsiderInterviewsPodcast/">https://www.facebook.com/InsiderInterviewsPodcast/</a></strong><br /> <strong>Threads: <a href="https://www.threads.net/@insiderinterviews">https://www.threads.net/@insiderinterviews</a><br /> </strong></h4> <h4>Substack: <a href="https://mossappeal.substack.com/">Moss Hysteria</a></h4> <h3><strong>Please follow <em>Insider Interviews</em>, share with another smart business leader, and leave a comment on @Apple or @Spotify… or a tip in my jar!: <a href="https://buymeacoffee.com/mossappeal">https://buymeacoffee.com/mossappeal</a>!  THANK YOU for listening!</strong></h3> <p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1322 aligncenter" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button-300x84.png" sizes="auto, (max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button-300x84.png 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button-1024x287.png 1024w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button-768x216.png 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button.png 1090w" alt="Support this content at buymeacoffee.com/mossappeal " width="275" height="77" /></p> <div class="simplesocialbuttons simplesocial-simple-icons simplesocialbuttons_inline simplesocialbuttons-align-left post-1792 post simplesocialbuttons-inline-no-animation simplesocialbuttons-inline-in"></div> <div class="simplesocialbuttons simplesocial-simple-icons simplesocialbuttons_inline simplesocialbuttons-align-left post-1813 post simplesocialbuttons-inline-no-animation simplesocialbuttons-inline-in"></div>
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Stingray, Gold Bond & DAX on What’s New and Next in TV, Audio, and Brand Connection
JAN 15, 2026
Stingray, Gold Bond & DAX on What’s New and Next in TV, Audio, and Brand Connection
<h3>If you work in <strong data-start="477" data-end="513">media, marketing, or advertising</strong>, you know this tension: Screens dominate. Measurement has lagged. And it’s harder to answer questions like &#8220;<em data-start="650" data-end="687">Where does attention really happen?&#8221;</em> and &#8220;<em data-start="692" data-end="721">What actually moves people&#8230;and how do I prove it?&#8221;</em> This episode offers some answers, from three executives I spoke with at CES 2026.</h3> <h4>Though we talk about the newest cool tools (it IS the largest consumer tech show), these conversations explore how media works when it follows consumers from the couch to the car, in stores, in culture, and across audio—and how measurement is finally catching up to meaning. Learn what’s working now and what’s coming next, according to:</h4> <p><strong><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignleft wp-image-1819 " src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/car-game-300x163.jpg" alt="" width="416" height="226" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/car-game-300x163.jpg 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/car-game-1024x556.jpg 1024w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/car-game-768x417.jpg 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/car-game.jpg 1308w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 416px) 100vw, 416px" />Jim Riley, President of <a href="https://www.stingray.com/streaming-distribution/in-car-entertainment/">Stingray U.S</a>., explains how audio, ambient TV, karaoke, and in-car experiences are converging—and how their effort to connect these environments creates value for brands, platforms, and consumers alike. </strong></p> <p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignright wp-image-1820" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/PR-image_TuneIn-Acquisition_1200x630_EN-300x158.jpg" alt="" width="423" height="223" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/PR-image_TuneIn-Acquisition_1200x630_EN-300x158.jpg 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/PR-image_TuneIn-Acquisition_1200x630_EN-1024x538.jpg 1024w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/PR-image_TuneIn-Acquisition_1200x630_EN-768x403.jpg 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/PR-image_TuneIn-Acquisition_1200x630_EN.jpg 1200w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 423px) 100vw, 423px" /></p> <p><strong>From FAST channels to </strong><strong>automotive dashboards, Jim shares how following people across screens (and beyond them) is reshaping media strategy. (And don’t miss an archival image of Jim making music “back in the day” himself!)</strong></p> <p><strong>Kimberly Hairston-Hicks, CMO of Sanofi’s <a href="http://www.goldbond.com">Gold Bond</a>, brings a powerful brand perspective rooted in authenticity and cultural relevance. She talks candidly (and I sing) about letting go of control, redefining success beyond impressions, and building partnerships based on shared values—showing how human connection and business results don’t have to be at odds. </strong></p> <p><strong>Hint: They paired perfectly with celebrity Chelsea Handler over shared values and love of the product!<br /> </strong></p> <figure id="attachment_1818" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1818" style="width: 302px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1818 " src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/chelsea-goldbond-ski-265x300.jpg" alt="" width="302" height="342" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/chelsea-goldbond-ski-265x300.jpg 265w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/chelsea-goldbond-ski.jpg 492w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 302px) 100vw, 302px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1818" class="wp-caption-text">Chelsea Handler Skiing with Gold Bond!</figcaption></figure> <p><strong>(And learn why Kimberly wears a “cape,” and owes a debt of gratitude to women who help women!)</strong></p> <p><strong>Jennifer Louie Oon, SVP of Sales at <a href="https://global.com/dax/">DAX US</a>, closes the loop with a look at audio advertising today—and why its moment is now&#8230;especially when brands can reach markets or audiences other platforms  or apps often miss. <img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignright wp-image-1822" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/dax-1-300x159.jpg" alt="" width="352" height="187" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/dax-1-300x159.jpg 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/dax-1-768x408.jpg 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/dax-1.jpg 795w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 352px) 100vw, 352px" /></strong></p> <p><strong>She explains how DAX is solving for that, along with measurement tools that can finally demonstrate audio’s impact in real time and the power of advertisers still having presence in screen-free moments. (And find out why old school Legos really grabbed her during the world’s largest tech show!) </strong></p> <p><strong>Get some practical thought starters on audio advertising, brand authenticity, media measurement, and human-centered marketing—without the jargon or hype&#8230;and with a little bit of singing and laughs!</strong></p> <p><strong>Key Moments &#38; Time Codes</strong></p> <p><strong>00:00–01:22</strong> — Why this episode connects audio, TV, brand marketing, and ad tech</p> <p><strong>03:29–04:43</strong> — <em>Why karaoke is becoming a serious media business</em><br /> Jim Riley explains how <strong>Stingray</strong> turned a universal behavior—singing in the car—into a gamified, social, and monetizable experience across TVs and automotive dashboards.</p> <p><strong>05:40–06:20</strong> — <em>From couch to car to checkout</em><br /> Jim outlines Stingray’s vision for linking TV, in-car audio, and retail media—following consumers across environments and tying media exposure to real-world action.</p> <p><strong>08:02–08:37</strong> — <em>When advertising doesn’t belong everywhere</em><br /> A candid discussion on why karaoke stays ad-free, how premium experiences are monetized differently, and what “everybody wins” actually looks like in practice.</p> <p><strong>12:44–13:20</strong> — <em>“Let it go” as a marketing strategy</em><br /> Kimberly Hairston-Hicks shares why perfection is the enemy of progress—and how letting go of control creates stronger brands and better outcomes.</p> <p><strong>18:19–20:29</strong> — <em>Authenticity beats star power</em><br /> Kimberly breaks down the Gold Bond–Chelsea Handler partnership, revealing why shared values—not celebrity size—drive cultural relevance and real KPIs.</p> <p><strong>21:01–22:11</strong> — <em>When impressions aren’t the point anymore</em><br /> A reframing of success: why cultural moments, memory, and longevity matter just as much as raw reach—and how brands should measure that.</p> <p><strong>26:07–27:25</strong> — <em>Beauty, confidence, and showing up fully</em><br /> A powerful, personal exchange on how products—and leadership—can change how people feel about themselves, from the boardroom to daily life.</p> <p><strong>35:07–36:05</strong> — <em>Audio measurement finally catches up</em><br /> Jennifer Louie Oon explains how <strong>DAX</strong> is using brand-lift measurement to prove what audio has always delivered—and why this changes how brands plan media.</p> <p><strong>37:18–38:06</strong> — <em>Why audio’s moment is now</em><br /> Screen-free moments, smarter targeting, and better measurement come together—making the case for audio as a core, not supplemental, channel in 2026 planning.</p> <h3><strong>Connect with:</strong></h3> <p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/riley-jim/"><strong>Jim Riley</strong></a></p> <p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimberly-hairston-hicks-bab5971a/"><strong>Kimberly Hairston-Hicks</strong></a></p> <p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifer-louie/"><strong>Jen Oon</strong></a></p> <h3>Connect with E.B. Moss and <em>Insider Interviews: With Media &#38; Marketing Experts           </em></h3> <h4><strong>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mossappeal">https://www.linkedin.com/in/mossappeal</a><br /> </strong><strong>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/insiderinterviews">https://www.instagram.com/insiderinterviews</a></strong><br /> <strong>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/InsiderInterviewsPodcast/">https://www.facebook.com/InsiderInterviewsPodcast/</a></strong><br /> <strong>Threads: <a href="https://www.threads.net/@insiderinterviews">https://www.threads.net/@insiderinterviews</a><br /> </strong></h4> <h4>Substack: <a href="https://mossappeal.substack.com/">Moss Hysteria</a></h4> <h3><strong>Please follow <em>Insider Interviews</em>, share with another smart business leader, and leave a comment on @Apple or @Spotify… or a tip in my jar!: <a href="https://buymeacoffee.com/mossappeal">https://buymeacoffee.com/mossappeal</a>!  THANK YOU for listening!</strong></h3> <p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1322 aligncenter" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button-300x84.png" sizes="auto, (max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button-300x84.png 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button-1024x287.png 1024w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button-768x216.png 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button.png 1090w" alt="Support this content at buymeacoffee.com/mossappeal " width="275" height="77" /></p> <div class="simplesocialbuttons simplesocial-simple-icons simplesocialbuttons_inline simplesocialbuttons-align-left post-1792 post simplesocialbuttons-inline-no-animation simplesocialbuttons-inline-in"></div>
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From Privacy Complexity to Competitive Advantage: Richy Glassberg Shares the Compliance Playbook
DEC 17, 2025
From Privacy Complexity to Competitive Advantage: Richy Glassberg Shares the Compliance Playbook
<h3 data-start="2510" data-end="2680">Privacy is one of those topics everyone knows they should understand better—right up until it becomes urgent. Headline: it&#8217;s urgent. That’s exactly why I wanted <strong data-start="2648" data-end="2667">Richy Glassberg, CoFounder / CEO of <a href="https://safeguardprivacy.com/">SafeGuard Privacy</a>,</strong> on the show: to tackle what may be the most complex challenge marketers face: <strong data-start="3060" data-end="3091">privacy compliance at scale</strong>.</h3> <figure id="attachment_1798" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1798" style="width: 476px" class="wp-caption alignright"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1798" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Safety-set-up.png" alt="" width="476" height="380" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Safety-set-up.png 1692w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Safety-set-up-300x240.png 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Safety-set-up-1024x818.png 1024w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Safety-set-up-768x614.png 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Safety-set-up-1536x1227.png 1536w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 476px) 100vw, 476px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1798" class="wp-caption-text">Sample Page: SafeGuard Privacy Playbook</figcaption></figure> <p data-start="292" data-end="577"><strong>Richy brings big credibility to the conversation. You&#8217;ll hear the stories of a career that included helping launch CNN.com and its digital business, co-founding the <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/iab/">IAB</a>, and building an advertising infrastructure still used across the industry. He likes to build things. </strong></p> <p data-start="292" data-end="577"><strong>And we&#8217;re the better for it. Because he&#8217;s THE person to help explain why privacy laws aren’t just legal issues—they’re structural ones. And why, if you work in marketing, advertising, media, or tech, these laws apply to you whether you realize it or not. </strong></p> <blockquote> <h3><em><strong>“These laws don’t care what kind of digital advertising you do. They ask one question: &#8216;do you have data on a consumer, and what are you doing with it?&#8217;”</strong></em></h3> </blockquote> <p data-start="292" data-end="577"><strong>Richy breaks down what regulators are actually asking, why enforcement is picking up, and why brands are now responsible not only for themselves, but for their entire partner ecosystem.</strong></p> <blockquote> <h3 data-start="3489" data-end="3696"><em><strong>“Privacy doesn’t have to slow growth. If you standardize it, make it auditable, and prove it once, it becomes a competitive advantage.”</strong></em></h3> </blockquote> <p data-start="3489" data-end="3696"><strong>What I appreciate most about Richy’s approach is that it’s practical, and empathetic. He understands the values and the limitations of AI. <img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-1807" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Privacy-Assist-grab-scaled.png" alt="" width="855" height="286" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Privacy-Assist-grab-scaled.png 2560w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Privacy-Assist-grab-300x100.png 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Privacy-Assist-grab-1024x343.png 1024w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Privacy-Assist-grab-768x257.png 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Privacy-Assist-grab-1536x514.png 1536w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Privacy-Assist-grab-2048x686.png 2048w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 855px) 100vw, 855px" />He knows human attorneys need to be involved. </strong></p> <p data-start="3489" data-end="3696"><strong>He has made sure that SafeGuard is nimble and building systems that make compliance auditable, efficient, and—yes—actually helpful to growth, even when the rules keep changing. </strong></p> <h3 data-start="3698" data-end="3717"><strong>We also talk about:</strong></h3> <ul data-start="3718" data-end="3974"> <li data-start="3718" data-end="3788"> <p data-start="3720" data-end="3788"><strong>Why inboxes listed on privacy policies are now enforcement targets</strong></p> </li> <li data-start="3789" data-end="3850"> <p data-start="3791" data-end="3850"><strong>How standardization saved digital advertising once before&#8230;and why it&#8217;s key to compliance now</strong></p> </li> <li data-start="3851" data-end="3916"> <p data-start="3853" data-end="3916"><strong>Where AI fits into privacy workflows (and where it shouldn’t)</strong></p> </li> <li data-start="3917" data-end="3974"> <p data-start="3919" data-end="3974"><strong>Why proving compliance matters more than promising it</strong></p> </li> </ul> <p data-start="3976" data-end="4147"><strong>If privacy still feels abstract or overwhelming, this conversation will give you clarity—and probably a healthy nudge to check a few things you’ve been meaning to look at. </strong></p> <p data-start="3976" data-end="4147"><strong>Speaking of healthy, I&#8217;m so honored to have Richy on for 23 million additional reasons: he is also a founding force behind <a href="https://breastcancer.org/give">BreastCancer.org</a>, (did we mention they are matching donations through December?) It&#8217;s now one of the most recognizable, trusted, peer-reviewed health information sites in the world. Richy put his powers to use, from grabbing the URL to creating the revenue streams that are the foundation for its viability and ability to serve more than 20 million women globally, and counting. </strong></p> <p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignleft wp-image-1802" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/bc-org.png" alt="" width="455" height="287" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/bc-org.png 968w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/bc-org-300x190.png 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/bc-org-768x486.png 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 455px) 100vw, 455px" /></p> <p data-start="3976" data-end="4147"><strong>Richy Glassberg works in a world defined by discretion and safeguards, yet remains an open book—grounded in purpose, devoted to his wife and best friend Katy, loyal to his Jack Russells, disciplined through 30 years of training in Shorin-Ryu Karate, and committed to making privacy compliance clearer, calmer, and more human.</strong></p> <h3 data-start="3976" data-end="4147"><strong><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1799 alignleft" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Richy-Dogs.jpg" alt="" width="297" height="353" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Richy-Dogs.jpg 812w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Richy-Dogs-252x300.jpg 252w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Richy-Dogs-768x915.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 297px) 100vw, 297px" /> </strong><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1800 alignright" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Richy-Katie-Wife.jpg" alt="" width="334" height="334" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Richy-Katie-Wife.jpg 886w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Richy-Katie-Wife-300x300.jpg 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Richy-Katie-Wife-150x150.jpg 150w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Richy-Katie-Wife-768x768.jpg 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Richy-Katie-Wife-650x650.jpg 650w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Richy-Katie-Wife-350x350.jpg 350w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Richy-Katie-Wife-90x90.jpg 90w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 334px) 100vw, 334px" /></h3> <h3 data-start="3976" data-end="4147"></h3> <h3 data-start="3976" data-end="4147"></h3> <h3 data-start="3976" data-end="4147"><strong>Key Moments:</strong></h3> <ul> <li data-start="350" data-end="432"> <p data-start="352" data-end="432"><strong>00:00 – Why privacy compliance has become a business risk CMOs can’t ignore</strong></p> </li> <li data-start="433" data-end="511"> <p data-start="435" data-end="511"><strong>4:10 – How data privacy laws impact <em data-start="475" data-end="480">all</em> forms of digital advertising</strong></p> </li> <li data-start="512" data-end="595"> <p data-start="514" data-end="595"><strong>8:55 – How Richy&#8217;s sneakers explain privacy really well</strong></p> </li> <li data-start="596" data-end="675"> <p data-start="598" data-end="675"><strong>12:40 – Why brands are now responsible for vendors&#8230;and their vendors’ vendors</strong></p> </li> <li data-start="676" data-end="754"> <p data-start="678" data-end="754"><strong>17:05 – What enforcement really looks like (and why it’s accelerating)</strong></p> </li> <li data-start="755" data-end="836"> <p data-start="757" data-end="836"><strong>22:30 – How standardization turns compliance into a competitive advantage</strong></p> </li> <li data-start="837" data-end="918"> <p data-start="839" data-end="918"><strong>26:15 – Using AI to assist privacy teams without replacing legal judgment</strong></p> </li> <li data-start="919" data-end="995"> <p data-start="921" data-end="995"><strong>30:45 – From building CNN.com to how a pixel protected Ted Turner&#8217;s business</strong></p> </li> <li data-start="996" data-end="1078"> <p data-start="998" data-end="1078"><strong>34:50 – The origins of BreastCancer.org and why it’s the work Richy&#8217;s most proud of</strong></p> </li> <li data-start="1079" data-end="1157"> <p data-start="1081" data-end="1157"><strong>39:10 – Putting digital to good while keeping the open internet viable</strong></p> </li> <li data-start="1158" data-end="1222"> <p data-start="1160" data-end="1222"><strong>41:55 – What&#8217;s next at SafeGuard Privacy</strong></p> </li> </ul> <p><strong>Connect with Richy Glassberg: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/richy-glassberg-49a915">https://www.linkedin.com/in/richy-glassberg-49a915</a></strong></p> <p><strong>Visit SafeGuard Privacy for more resources: <a href="http://www.safeguardprivacy.com">http://www.safeguardprivacy.com</a></strong></p> <h3>Connect with E.B. Moss and <em>Insider Interviews: With Media &#38; Marketing Experts           </em></h3> <p><strong>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mossappeal">https://www.linkedin.com/in/mossappeal</a><br /> </strong><strong>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/insiderinterviews">https://www.instagram.com/insiderinterviews</a></strong><br /> <strong>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/InsiderInterviewsPodcast/">https://www.facebook.com/InsiderInterviewsPodcast/</a></strong><br /> <strong>Threads: <a href="https://www.threads.net/@insiderinterviews">https://www.threads.net/@insiderinterviews</a><br /> </strong></p> <h3><strong>Please follow <em>Insider Interviews</em>, share with another smart business leader, and leave a comment on @Apple or @Spotify… or a tip in my jar!: <a href="https://buymeacoffee.com/mossappeal">https://buymeacoffee.com/mossappeal</a>!  THANK YOU for listening!</strong></h3> <p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1322 aligncenter" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button-300x84.png" sizes="auto, (max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button-300x84.png 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button-1024x287.png 1024w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button-768x216.png 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button.png 1090w" alt="Support this content at buymeacoffee.com/mossappeal " width="275" height="77" /></p>
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43 MIN
How Local Advertisers Win With CTV,  Sports & Smart Curation – ft. Premion’s Peter Jones
DEC 3, 2025
How Local Advertisers Win With CTV, Sports & Smart Curation – ft. Premion’s Peter Jones
<h3>Peter Jones, who heads up Revenue at <a href="http://premion.com/">Premion</a>, returns to<a href="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/2025/05/13/the-power-of-local-advertising-and-impactful-reach-premion-mirror-digital/"><em> Insider Interviews (see Ep 38)</em></a> to educate us on the shifts in local TV advertising in a streaming-first world &#8212; and how small businesses can compete with national brands, with greater access to sports inventory, and why measurement actually matters!</h3> <p><strong><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignleft wp-image-1780" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Screenshot-2025-12-02-at-9.19.32-PM-300x166.png" alt="" width="675" height="373" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Screenshot-2025-12-02-at-9.19.32-PM-300x166.png 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Screenshot-2025-12-02-at-9.19.32-PM-1024x568.png 1024w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Screenshot-2025-12-02-at-9.19.32-PM-768x426.png 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Screenshot-2025-12-02-at-9.19.32-PM-1536x852.png 1536w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Screenshot-2025-12-02-at-9.19.32-PM-2048x1136.png 2048w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 675px) 100vw, 675px" />Learn what &#8220;context&#8221; really means for advertisers (spoiler: consumers don&#8217;t experience media in silos), how the collapse of some Regional Sports Networks has created opportunities for local advertisers, and why &#8220;smart curation&#8221; is more than an industry buzzword.</strong></p> <p><strong>But it’s not just the small business that needs to adapt: it’s agencies and brands, too.</strong></p> <p><strong>Peter breaks down what full-funnel capabilities now available to SMBs—from maxing out brand awareness across Premion&#8217;s 210 DMAs, to measurable sales transactions, tapping 1st and 3rd party data. </strong></p> <p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class=" wp-image-1782 alignright" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Screenshot-2025-11-30-at-12.50.00-PM-300x189.png" alt="" width="354" height="223" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Screenshot-2025-11-30-at-12.50.00-PM-300x189.png 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Screenshot-2025-11-30-at-12.50.00-PM-768x483.png 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Screenshot-2025-11-30-at-12.50.00-PM.png 984w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 354px) 100vw, 354px" /></p> <p><strong>And, as we gear up for playoff sports, he reminds us how technology has leveled the playing field and that local advertisers can get in the game, too! So, sports puns are pervasive in Episode 44 since part of our conversation is about Premion’s new(ish) programmatic options to enable more inventory for <em>all</em> in live sports. Talk about a “game changer&#8230;!”</strong></p> <p><strong>Understand how local car dealerships and furniture stores can now leverage the same targeting, data, and attribution tools that Fortune 500 companies use, all while reaching their specific communities with precision. But for everyone, it&#8217;s key to understand the importance of creative in driving outcomes, and omnichannel strategies (because yes, we&#8217;re all scrolling during halftime), and why advertisers need to embrace data-driven decisions over personal platform preferences.</strong></p> <blockquote> <h3><strong>&#8220;<em>The first thing to realize is that big tech has leveled the playing field for local advertisers&#8230;</em>&#8220;</strong></h3> </blockquote> <p><strong>Whether you&#8217;re a media buyer, agency leader, or local business owner trying to navigate the CTV landscape, this conversation delivers practical guidance on inventory, data, and measurement—the three pillars every advertiser should evaluate when choosing a CTV partner.</strong></p> <p><strong>Bottom line? The local advertising opportunity in streaming TV has never been bigger—but only for those willing to adapt, measure outcomes over impressions, and follow consumers wherever they are.</strong></p> <h3><strong>Key Highlights</strong></h3> <p><strong>[01:15] CTV’s double-digit growth, challenges and opportunities for advertisers</strong></p> <p><strong>[02:14] What Premion does – Nine years of helping local advertisers navigate CTV</strong></p> <p><strong>[03:33] Leveling the playing field – Educating SMBs on using the same tools as national brands</strong></p> <p><strong>[05:25] Challenges and Strategies for Outcomes in Omnichannel Advertising</strong></p> <p><strong>[08:26] Tools and tactics – First-party data, pixels, attribution, and what SMBs need to track</strong></p> <p><strong>[10:48] The role of creative – Sequential messaging, AI tools, and &#8220;message to market match&#8221;</strong></p> <p><strong>[12:52] How Premion’s programmatic access to sports inventory is opening doors for local advertisers</strong></p> <p><strong>[15:39] Smart Curation Explained and Full Funnel Options in 200+ markets</strong></p> <p><strong>[20:22] The dynamic nature of live sports – Why planning can be tricky but opportunity is massive</strong></p> <p><strong>[21:45] What to look for in a CTV partner – Hint: Inventory, data, measurement (plus the TAG seal of approval!)</strong></p> <p><strong>[23:41] Emerging Trends and AI in Advertising <img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class=" wp-image-1786 alignright" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/E.B.-Peter-Jones-Possible2025-300x298.jpg" alt="" width="336" height="334" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/E.B.-Peter-Jones-Possible2025-300x298.jpg 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/E.B.-Peter-Jones-Possible2025-1024x1017.jpg 1024w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/E.B.-Peter-Jones-Possible2025-150x150.jpg 150w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/E.B.-Peter-Jones-Possible2025-768x763.jpg 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/E.B.-Peter-Jones-Possible2025-1536x1526.jpg 1536w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/E.B.-Peter-Jones-Possible2025-2048x2035.jpg 2048w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/E.B.-Peter-Jones-Possible2025-90x90.jpg 90w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 336px) 100vw, 336px" /></strong></p> <h3>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonespeter/">Peter Jones</a> and <a href="http://premion.com/">Premion</a></h3> <h3>Connect with E.B. Moss and <em>Insider Interviews: With Media &#38; Marketing Experts           </em></h3> <p><strong>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mossappeal">https://www.linkedin.com/in/mossappeal</a><br /> </strong><strong>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/insiderinterviews">https://www.instagram.com/insiderinterviews</a></strong><br /> <strong>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/InsiderInterviewsPodcast/">https://www.facebook.com/InsiderInterviewsPodcast/</a></strong><br /> <strong>Threads: <a href="https://www.threads.net/@insiderinterviews">https://www.threads.net/@insiderinterviews</a><br /> </strong></p> <h3><strong>If you enjoyed this episode, follow <em>Insider Interviews</em>, share with another smart business leader, and leave a comment on @Apple or @Spotify… or a tip in my jar!: <a href="https://buymeacoffee.com/mossappeal">https://buymeacoffee.com/mossappeal</a>! </strong></h3> <p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1322 aligncenter" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button-300x84.png" sizes="auto, (max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button-300x84.png 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button-1024x287.png 1024w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button-768x216.png 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button.png 1090w" alt="Support this content at buymeacoffee.com/mossappeal " width="275" height="77" /></p>
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13 MIN
How CEO Neil Vogel Powers Up People Inc
OCT 14, 2025
How CEO Neil Vogel Powers Up People Inc
<h3><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/neilvogel/">Neil Vogel</a>, CEO of <a href="https://www.people.inc/">People Inc</a>., has done something remarkable in an industry that&#8217;s been writing its own eulogy for years. He&#8217;s made legacy media look relevant and publishing thrive. As the head of America&#8217;s largest magazine publisher—home to <em>People</em>, <em>Travel &#38; Leisure</em>, <em>Better Homes &#38; Gardens</em> and more—he&#8217;s navigated one of the most turbulent periods in magazine, let alone media, history with a perspective that&#8217;s refreshingly unsentimental and, frankly, bullish on publishing.</h3> <h3><strong>The Mindset That Matters</strong></h3> <p><strong>What becomes clear quickly is that Neil operates from a different premise than a lot of industry vets.</strong></p> <figure id="attachment_1766" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1766" style="width: 229px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class=" wp-image-1766" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Vogel-headshot-200x300.jpg" alt="" width="229" height="344" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Vogel-headshot-200x300.jpg 200w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Vogel-headshot-683x1024.jpg 683w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Vogel-headshot-768x1152.jpg 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Vogel-headshot-1024x1536.jpg 1024w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Vogel-headshot-1365x2048.jpg 1365w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Vogel-headshot-scaled.jpg 1706w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 229px) 100vw, 229px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1766" class="wp-caption-text">Neil Vogel, CEO, People Inc.</figcaption></figure> <p><strong>He doesn&#8217;t see change as something to fear or fight. Instead, he sees it as the operating environment: </strong><strong>&#8220;We&#8217;re going to happen to things. Things are not going to happen to us.&#8221;</strong></p> <p><strong>It&#8217;s a subtle shift, but it changes everything about how you approach strategy. </strong><strong>He also refuses to accept the tired narrative that media is dying. &#8220;Media is a fantastic business,&#8221; he told me. &#8220;People are on media more now than ever before, and there&#8217;s more money being spent against media in various ways.&#8221; The problem isn&#8217;t media; it&#8217;s when companies cling to old business models instead of adapting the execution while keeping the core mission intact. </strong></p> <p><strong><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignright wp-image-1763" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/all-brands-300x150.jpg" alt="" width="452" height="226" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/all-brands-300x150.jpg 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/all-brands-1024x513.jpg 1024w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/all-brands-768x384.jpg 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/all-brands-1536x769.jpg 1536w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/all-brands.jpg 1870w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 452px) 100vw, 452px" /></strong></p> <h3><strong>The Search Reality Check</strong></h3> <p><strong>One of the sharpest insights from our conversation centered on the collapse of search dominance. When Dotdash was independent, 70 percent of traffic came from search. That was their &#8220;mall.&#8221; But the mall blew up. Search traffic dropped to 30 percent of total traffic over time. The expected outcome? Disaster.</strong></p> <p><strong>What actually happened, thanks to Neil&#8217;s approach? Total traffic grew. They built. They diversified into direct traffic, email, social platforms, Apple News, and owned properties like recipe lockers. <img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-medium wp-image-1765 alignright" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/tl-post-300x268.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="268" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/tl-post-300x268.jpg 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/tl-post-1024x915.jpg 1024w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/tl-post-768x686.jpg 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/tl-post.jpg 1412w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></strong></p> <p><strong>A key lesson: </strong></p> <blockquote> <h4>&#8220;We&#8217;re not entitled to search traffic, just like we&#8217;re not entitled to Facebook traffic. You have to earn it.&#8221;</h4> </blockquote> <h3><strong>The People Magazine Blueprint</strong></h3> <p><strong>The restructuring of People, Inc. offers a masterclass in letting go of control. Before, one print editor-in-chief made every decision across every platform. But these days he wondered how a print editor could understand everything and all platforms, like TikTok.</strong></p> <p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class=" wp-image-1762" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/people-insta-300x255.jpg" alt="" width="410" height="348" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/people-insta-300x255.jpg 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/people-insta-1024x870.jpg 1024w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/people-insta-768x653.jpg 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/people-insta.jpg 1386w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 410px) 100vw, 410px" /></p> <p><strong>They couldn&#8217;t. So they decentralized. Execs like Charlotte Triggs now set the brand direction—the ethos that drives all teams—and then fully independent editorial teams handle the magazine, website, Apple News, the app, and yes, Instagram and TikTok. There&#8217;s no forced repurposing. Each platform team creates natively for their audience. The result: <em>People</em> grew from six or seven million daily visitors to ten million, with explosive growth on social.</strong></p> <h3><strong>The Data-Driven Philosophy</strong></h3> <p><strong>Neil&#8217;s Wall Street background shaped how People Inc. approaches analytics, but he&#8217;s careful not to let math override instinct, noting: </strong></p> <blockquote> <h3><strong>&#8220;If you don&#8217;t make stuff people love, it doesn&#8217;t matter what your math says.&#8221; </strong></h3> </blockquote> <p><strong>The real insight is this: strategic ad placement and clean design mean you can generate more revenue with fewer intrusions on the audience. Better experience. Better margins. That&#8217;s the math he wants to do. </strong></p> <h3><strong>The Bigger Picture</strong></h3> <p><strong>What makes this conversation valuable is that Neil isn&#8217;t selling a complicated theory. He&#8217;s demonstrating a mindset: stay forward-looking, embrace change, remain unsentimental, and never stop making things people genuinely want. </strong></p> <h3><strong>Key Moments and Highlights</strong></h3> <ul> <li><strong>00:38</strong> From Dotdash to acquiring Meredith: becoming America&#8217;s largest publisher</li> <li><strong>01:25</strong> Why media remains a fantastic business despite industry pessimism</li> <li><strong>04:15</strong> The search shift: 70% dependence became 30%, yet total traffic grew</li> <li><strong>06:29</strong> Restructuring People magazine with independent platform teams and no forced repurposing</li> <li><strong>09:41</strong> Data and creative working together: how math serves, not dictates, content decisions</li> </ul> <h3>Connect with E.B. 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