Insider Interviews: Media and Marketing Pros
Insider Interviews: Media and Marketing Pros

Insider Interviews: Media and Marketing Pros

E.B. Moss

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Media, Marketing, Advertising and Entertainment executives give an insider’s view of the business of the industry. Compelling conversations on creating TV, advertising, audio, research and more, with host, E.B. Moss.

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From Privacy Complexity to Competitive Advantage: Richy Glassberg Shares the Compliance Playbook
DEC 17, 2025
From Privacy Complexity to Competitive Advantage: Richy Glassberg Shares the Compliance Playbook
<h3 data-start="2510" data-end="2680">Privacy is one of those topics everyone knows they should understand better—right up until it becomes urgent. Headline: it&#8217;s urgent. That’s exactly why I wanted <strong data-start="2648" data-end="2667">Richy Glassberg, CoFounder / CEO of <a href="https://safeguardprivacy.com/">SafeGuard Privacy</a>,</strong> on the show: to tackle what may be the most complex challenge marketers face: <strong data-start="3060" data-end="3091">privacy compliance at scale</strong>.</h3> <figure id="attachment_1798" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1798" style="width: 476px" class="wp-caption alignright"><img fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1798" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Safety-set-up.png" alt="" width="476" height="380" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Safety-set-up.png 1692w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Safety-set-up-300x240.png 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Safety-set-up-1024x818.png 1024w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Safety-set-up-768x614.png 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Safety-set-up-1536x1227.png 1536w" sizes="(max-width: 476px) 100vw, 476px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1798" class="wp-caption-text">Sample Page: SafeGuard Privacy Playbook</figcaption></figure> <p data-start="292" data-end="577"><strong>Richy brings big credibility to the conversation. You&#8217;ll hear the stories of a career that included helping launch CNN.com and its digital business, co-founding the <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/iab/">IAB</a>, and building an advertising infrastructure still used across the industry. He likes to build things. </strong></p> <p data-start="292" data-end="577"><strong>And we&#8217;re the better for it. Because he&#8217;s THE person to help explain why privacy laws aren’t just legal issues—they’re structural ones. And why, if you work in marketing, advertising, media, or tech, these laws apply to you whether you realize it or not. </strong></p> <blockquote> <h3><em><strong>“These laws don’t care what kind of digital advertising you do. They ask one question: &#8216;do you have data on a consumer, and what are you doing with it?&#8217;”</strong></em></h3> </blockquote> <p data-start="292" data-end="577"><strong>Richy breaks down what regulators are actually asking, why enforcement is picking up, and why brands are now responsible not only for themselves, but for their entire partner ecosystem.</strong></p> <blockquote> <h3 data-start="3489" data-end="3696"><em><strong>“Privacy doesn’t have to slow growth. If you standardize it, make it auditable, and prove it once, it becomes a competitive advantage.”</strong></em></h3> </blockquote> <p data-start="3489" data-end="3696"><strong>What I appreciate most about Richy’s approach is that it’s practical, and empathetic. He understands the values and the limitations of AI. <img decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-1807" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Privacy-Assist-grab-scaled.png" alt="" width="855" height="286" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Privacy-Assist-grab-scaled.png 2560w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Privacy-Assist-grab-300x100.png 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Privacy-Assist-grab-1024x343.png 1024w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Privacy-Assist-grab-768x257.png 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Privacy-Assist-grab-1536x514.png 1536w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Privacy-Assist-grab-2048x686.png 2048w" sizes="(max-width: 855px) 100vw, 855px" />He knows human attorneys need to be involved. </strong></p> <p data-start="3489" data-end="3696"><strong>He has made sure that SafeGuard is nimble and building systems that make compliance auditable, efficient, and—yes—actually helpful to growth, even when the rules keep changing. </strong></p> <h3 data-start="3698" data-end="3717"><strong>We also talk about:</strong></h3> <ul data-start="3718" data-end="3974"> <li data-start="3718" data-end="3788"> <p data-start="3720" data-end="3788"><strong>Why inboxes listed on privacy policies are now enforcement targets</strong></p> </li> <li data-start="3789" data-end="3850"> <p data-start="3791" data-end="3850"><strong>How standardization saved digital advertising once before&#8230;and why it&#8217;s key to compliance now</strong></p> </li> <li data-start="3851" data-end="3916"> <p data-start="3853" data-end="3916"><strong>Where AI fits into privacy workflows (and where it shouldn’t)</strong></p> </li> <li data-start="3917" data-end="3974"> <p data-start="3919" data-end="3974"><strong>Why proving compliance matters more than promising it</strong></p> </li> </ul> <p data-start="3976" data-end="4147"><strong>If privacy still feels abstract or overwhelming, this conversation will give you clarity—and probably a healthy nudge to check a few things you’ve been meaning to look at. </strong></p> <p data-start="3976" data-end="4147"><strong>Speaking of healthy, I&#8217;m so honored to have Richy on for 23 million additional reasons: he is also a founding force behind <a href="https://breastcancer.org/give">BreastCancer.org</a>, (did we mention they are matching donations through December?) It&#8217;s now one of the most recognizable, trusted, peer-reviewed health information sites in the world. Richy put his powers to use, from grabbing the URL to creating the revenue streams that are the foundation for its viability and ability to serve more than 20 million women globally, and counting. </strong></p> <p><img decoding="async" class="alignleft wp-image-1802" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/bc-org.png" alt="" width="455" height="287" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/bc-org.png 968w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/bc-org-300x190.png 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/bc-org-768x486.png 768w" sizes="(max-width: 455px) 100vw, 455px" /></p> <p data-start="3976" data-end="4147"><strong>Richy Glassberg works in a world defined by discretion and safeguards, yet remains an open book—grounded in purpose, devoted to his wife and best friend Katy, loyal to his Jack Russells, disciplined through 30 years of training in Shorin-Ryu Karate, and committed to making privacy compliance clearer, calmer, and more human.</strong></p> <h3 data-start="3976" data-end="4147"><strong><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1799 alignleft" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Richy-Dogs.jpg" alt="" width="297" height="353" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Richy-Dogs.jpg 812w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Richy-Dogs-252x300.jpg 252w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Richy-Dogs-768x915.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 297px) 100vw, 297px" /> </strong><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1800 alignright" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Richy-Katie-Wife.jpg" alt="" width="334" height="334" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Richy-Katie-Wife.jpg 886w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Richy-Katie-Wife-300x300.jpg 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Richy-Katie-Wife-150x150.jpg 150w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Richy-Katie-Wife-768x768.jpg 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Richy-Katie-Wife-650x650.jpg 650w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Richy-Katie-Wife-350x350.jpg 350w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Richy-Katie-Wife-90x90.jpg 90w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 334px) 100vw, 334px" /></h3> <h3 data-start="3976" data-end="4147"></h3> <h3 data-start="3976" data-end="4147"></h3> <h3 data-start="3976" data-end="4147"><strong>Key Moments:</strong></h3> <ul> <li data-start="350" data-end="432"> <p data-start="352" data-end="432"><strong>00:00 – Why privacy compliance has become a business risk CMOs can’t ignore</strong></p> </li> <li data-start="433" data-end="511"> <p data-start="435" data-end="511"><strong>4:10 – How data privacy laws impact <em data-start="475" data-end="480">all</em> forms of digital advertising</strong></p> </li> <li data-start="512" data-end="595"> <p data-start="514" data-end="595"><strong>8:55 – How Richy&#8217;s sneakers explain privacy really well</strong></p> </li> <li data-start="596" data-end="675"> <p data-start="598" data-end="675"><strong>12:40 – Why brands are now responsible for vendors&#8230;and their vendors’ vendors</strong></p> </li> <li data-start="676" data-end="754"> <p data-start="678" data-end="754"><strong>17:05 – What enforcement really looks like (and why it’s accelerating)</strong></p> </li> <li data-start="755" data-end="836"> <p data-start="757" data-end="836"><strong>22:30 – How standardization turns compliance into a competitive advantage</strong></p> </li> <li data-start="837" data-end="918"> <p data-start="839" data-end="918"><strong>26:15 – Using AI to assist privacy teams without replacing legal judgment</strong></p> </li> <li data-start="919" data-end="995"> <p data-start="921" data-end="995"><strong>30:45 – From building CNN.com to how a pixel protected Ted Turner&#8217;s business</strong></p> </li> <li data-start="996" data-end="1078"> <p data-start="998" data-end="1078"><strong>34:50 – The origins of BreastCancer.org and why it’s the work Richy&#8217;s most proud of</strong></p> </li> <li data-start="1079" data-end="1157"> <p data-start="1081" data-end="1157"><strong>39:10 – Putting digital to good while keeping the open internet viable</strong></p> </li> <li data-start="1158" data-end="1222"> <p data-start="1160" data-end="1222"><strong>41:55 – What&#8217;s next at SafeGuard Privacy</strong></p> </li> </ul> <p><strong>Connect with Richy Glassberg: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/richy-glassberg-49a915">https://www.linkedin.com/in/richy-glassberg-49a915</a></strong></p> <p><strong>Visit SafeGuard Privacy for more resources: <a href="http://www.safeguardprivacy.com">http://www.safeguardprivacy.com</a></strong></p> <h3>Connect with E.B. Moss and <em>Insider Interviews: With Media &amp; Marketing Experts           </em></h3> <p><strong>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mossappeal">https://www.linkedin.com/in/mossappeal</a><br /> </strong><strong>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/insiderinterviews">https://www.instagram.com/insiderinterviews</a></strong><br /> <strong>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/InsiderInterviewsPodcast/">https://www.facebook.com/InsiderInterviewsPodcast/</a></strong><br /> <strong>Threads: <a href="https://www.threads.net/@insiderinterviews">https://www.threads.net/@insiderinterviews</a><br /> </strong></p> <h3><strong>Please follow <em>Insider Interviews</em>, share with another smart business leader, and leave a comment on @Apple or @Spotify… or a tip in my jar!: <a href="https://buymeacoffee.com/mossappeal">https://buymeacoffee.com/mossappeal</a>!  THANK YOU for listening!</strong></h3> <p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1322 aligncenter" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button-300x84.png" sizes="auto, (max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button-300x84.png 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button-1024x287.png 1024w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button-768x216.png 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button.png 1090w" alt="Support this content at buymeacoffee.com/mossappeal " width="275" height="77" /></p>
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43 MIN
How Local Advertisers Win With CTV,  Sports & Smart Curation – ft. Premion’s Peter Jones
DEC 3, 2025
How Local Advertisers Win With CTV, Sports & Smart Curation – ft. Premion’s Peter Jones
<h3>Peter Jones, who heads up Revenue at <a href="http://premion.com/">Premion</a>, returns to<a href="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/2025/05/13/the-power-of-local-advertising-and-impactful-reach-premion-mirror-digital/"><em> Insider Interviews (see Ep 38)</em></a> to educate us on the shifts in local TV advertising in a streaming-first world &#8212; and how small businesses can compete with national brands, with greater access to sports inventory, and why measurement actually matters!</h3> <p><strong><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignleft wp-image-1780" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Screenshot-2025-12-02-at-9.19.32-PM-300x166.png" alt="" width="675" height="373" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Screenshot-2025-12-02-at-9.19.32-PM-300x166.png 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Screenshot-2025-12-02-at-9.19.32-PM-1024x568.png 1024w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Screenshot-2025-12-02-at-9.19.32-PM-768x426.png 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Screenshot-2025-12-02-at-9.19.32-PM-1536x852.png 1536w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Screenshot-2025-12-02-at-9.19.32-PM-2048x1136.png 2048w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 675px) 100vw, 675px" />Learn what &#8220;context&#8221; really means for advertisers (spoiler: consumers don&#8217;t experience media in silos), how the collapse of some Regional Sports Networks has created opportunities for local advertisers, and why &#8220;smart curation&#8221; is more than an industry buzzword.</strong></p> <p><strong>But it’s not just the small business that needs to adapt: it’s agencies and brands, too.</strong></p> <p><strong>Peter breaks down what full-funnel capabilities now available to SMBs—from maxing out brand awareness across Premion&#8217;s 210 DMAs, to measurable sales transactions, tapping 1st and 3rd party data. </strong></p> <p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class=" wp-image-1782 alignright" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Screenshot-2025-11-30-at-12.50.00-PM-300x189.png" alt="" width="354" height="223" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Screenshot-2025-11-30-at-12.50.00-PM-300x189.png 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Screenshot-2025-11-30-at-12.50.00-PM-768x483.png 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Screenshot-2025-11-30-at-12.50.00-PM.png 984w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 354px) 100vw, 354px" /></p> <p><strong>And, as we gear up for playoff sports, he reminds us how technology has leveled the playing field and that local advertisers can get in the game, too! So, sports puns are pervasive in Episode 44 since part of our conversation is about Premion’s new(ish) programmatic options to enable more inventory for <em>all</em> in live sports. Talk about a “game changer&#8230;!”</strong></p> <p><strong>Understand how local car dealerships and furniture stores can now leverage the same targeting, data, and attribution tools that Fortune 500 companies use, all while reaching their specific communities with precision. But for everyone, it&#8217;s key to understand the importance of creative in driving outcomes, and omnichannel strategies (because yes, we&#8217;re all scrolling during halftime), and why advertisers need to embrace data-driven decisions over personal platform preferences.</strong></p> <blockquote> <h3><strong>&#8220;<em>The first thing to realize is that big tech has leveled the playing field for local advertisers&#8230;</em>&#8220;</strong></h3> </blockquote> <p><strong>Whether you&#8217;re a media buyer, agency leader, or local business owner trying to navigate the CTV landscape, this conversation delivers practical guidance on inventory, data, and measurement—the three pillars every advertiser should evaluate when choosing a CTV partner.</strong></p> <p><strong>Bottom line? The local advertising opportunity in streaming TV has never been bigger—but only for those willing to adapt, measure outcomes over impressions, and follow consumers wherever they are.</strong></p> <h3><strong>Key Highlights</strong></h3> <p><strong>[01:15] CTV’s double-digit growth, challenges and opportunities for advertisers</strong></p> <p><strong>[02:14] What Premion does – Nine years of helping local advertisers navigate CTV</strong></p> <p><strong>[03:33] Leveling the playing field – Educating SMBs on using the same tools as national brands</strong></p> <p><strong>[05:25] Challenges and Strategies for Outcomes in Omnichannel Advertising</strong></p> <p><strong>[08:26] Tools and tactics – First-party data, pixels, attribution, and what SMBs need to track</strong></p> <p><strong>[10:48] The role of creative – Sequential messaging, AI tools, and &#8220;message to market match&#8221;</strong></p> <p><strong>[12:52] How Premion’s programmatic access to sports inventory is opening doors for local advertisers</strong></p> <p><strong>[15:39] Smart Curation Explained and Full Funnel Options in 200+ markets</strong></p> <p><strong>[20:22] The dynamic nature of live sports – Why planning can be tricky but opportunity is massive</strong></p> <p><strong>[21:45] What to look for in a CTV partner – Hint: Inventory, data, measurement (plus the TAG seal of approval!)</strong></p> <p><strong>[23:41] Emerging Trends and AI in Advertising <img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class=" wp-image-1786 alignright" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/E.B.-Peter-Jones-Possible2025-300x298.jpg" alt="" width="336" height="334" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/E.B.-Peter-Jones-Possible2025-300x298.jpg 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/E.B.-Peter-Jones-Possible2025-1024x1017.jpg 1024w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/E.B.-Peter-Jones-Possible2025-150x150.jpg 150w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/E.B.-Peter-Jones-Possible2025-768x763.jpg 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/E.B.-Peter-Jones-Possible2025-1536x1526.jpg 1536w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/E.B.-Peter-Jones-Possible2025-2048x2035.jpg 2048w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/E.B.-Peter-Jones-Possible2025-90x90.jpg 90w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 336px) 100vw, 336px" /></strong></p> <h3>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonespeter/">Peter Jones</a> and <a href="http://premion.com/">Premion</a></h3> <h3>Connect with E.B. Moss and <em>Insider Interviews: With Media &amp; Marketing Experts           </em></h3> <p><strong>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mossappeal">https://www.linkedin.com/in/mossappeal</a><br /> </strong><strong>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/insiderinterviews">https://www.instagram.com/insiderinterviews</a></strong><br /> <strong>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/InsiderInterviewsPodcast/">https://www.facebook.com/InsiderInterviewsPodcast/</a></strong><br /> <strong>Threads: <a href="https://www.threads.net/@insiderinterviews">https://www.threads.net/@insiderinterviews</a><br /> </strong></p> <h3><strong>If you enjoyed this episode, follow <em>Insider Interviews</em>, share with another smart business leader, and leave a comment on @Apple or @Spotify… or a tip in my jar!: <a href="https://buymeacoffee.com/mossappeal">https://buymeacoffee.com/mossappeal</a>! </strong></h3> <p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1322 aligncenter" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button-300x84.png" sizes="auto, (max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button-300x84.png 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button-1024x287.png 1024w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button-768x216.png 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button.png 1090w" alt="Support this content at buymeacoffee.com/mossappeal " width="275" height="77" /></p>
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13 MIN
How CEO Neil Vogel Powers Up People Inc
OCT 14, 2025
How CEO Neil Vogel Powers Up People Inc
<h3><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/neilvogel/">Neil Vogel</a>, CEO of <a href="https://www.people.inc/">People Inc</a>., has done something remarkable in an industry that&#8217;s been writing its own eulogy for years. He&#8217;s made legacy media look relevant and publishing thrive. As the head of America&#8217;s largest magazine publisher—home to <em>People</em>, <em>Travel &amp; Leisure</em>, <em>Better Homes &amp; Gardens</em> and more—he&#8217;s navigated one of the most turbulent periods in magazine, let alone media, history with a perspective that&#8217;s refreshingly unsentimental and, frankly, bullish on publishing.</h3> <h3><strong>The Mindset That Matters</strong></h3> <p><strong>What becomes clear quickly is that Neil operates from a different premise than a lot of industry vets.</strong></p> <figure id="attachment_1766" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1766" style="width: 229px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class=" wp-image-1766" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Vogel-headshot-200x300.jpg" alt="" width="229" height="344" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Vogel-headshot-200x300.jpg 200w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Vogel-headshot-683x1024.jpg 683w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Vogel-headshot-768x1152.jpg 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Vogel-headshot-1024x1536.jpg 1024w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Vogel-headshot-1365x2048.jpg 1365w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Vogel-headshot-scaled.jpg 1706w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 229px) 100vw, 229px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1766" class="wp-caption-text">Neil Vogel, CEO, People Inc.</figcaption></figure> <p><strong>He doesn&#8217;t see change as something to fear or fight. Instead, he sees it as the operating environment: </strong><strong>&#8220;We&#8217;re going to happen to things. Things are not going to happen to us.&#8221;</strong></p> <p><strong>It&#8217;s a subtle shift, but it changes everything about how you approach strategy. </strong><strong>He also refuses to accept the tired narrative that media is dying. &#8220;Media is a fantastic business,&#8221; he told me. &#8220;People are on media more now than ever before, and there&#8217;s more money being spent against media in various ways.&#8221; The problem isn&#8217;t media; it&#8217;s when companies cling to old business models instead of adapting the execution while keeping the core mission intact. </strong></p> <p><strong><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignright wp-image-1763" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/all-brands-300x150.jpg" alt="" width="452" height="226" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/all-brands-300x150.jpg 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/all-brands-1024x513.jpg 1024w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/all-brands-768x384.jpg 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/all-brands-1536x769.jpg 1536w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/all-brands.jpg 1870w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 452px) 100vw, 452px" /></strong></p> <h3><strong>The Search Reality Check</strong></h3> <p><strong>One of the sharpest insights from our conversation centered on the collapse of search dominance. When Dotdash was independent, 70 percent of traffic came from search. That was their &#8220;mall.&#8221; But the mall blew up. Search traffic dropped to 30 percent of total traffic over time. The expected outcome? Disaster.</strong></p> <p><strong>What actually happened, thanks to Neil&#8217;s approach? Total traffic grew. They built. They diversified into direct traffic, email, social platforms, Apple News, and owned properties like recipe lockers. <img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-medium wp-image-1765 alignright" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/tl-post-300x268.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="268" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/tl-post-300x268.jpg 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/tl-post-1024x915.jpg 1024w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/tl-post-768x686.jpg 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/tl-post.jpg 1412w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></strong></p> <p><strong>A key lesson: </strong></p> <blockquote> <h4>&#8220;We&#8217;re not entitled to search traffic, just like we&#8217;re not entitled to Facebook traffic. You have to earn it.&#8221;</h4> </blockquote> <h3><strong>The People Magazine Blueprint</strong></h3> <p><strong>The restructuring of People, Inc. offers a masterclass in letting go of control. Before, one print editor-in-chief made every decision across every platform. But these days he wondered how a print editor could understand everything and all platforms, like TikTok.</strong></p> <p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class=" wp-image-1762" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/people-insta-300x255.jpg" alt="" width="410" height="348" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/people-insta-300x255.jpg 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/people-insta-1024x870.jpg 1024w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/people-insta-768x653.jpg 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/people-insta.jpg 1386w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 410px) 100vw, 410px" /></p> <p><strong>They couldn&#8217;t. So they decentralized. Execs like Charlotte Triggs now set the brand direction—the ethos that drives all teams—and then fully independent editorial teams handle the magazine, website, Apple News, the app, and yes, Instagram and TikTok. There&#8217;s no forced repurposing. Each platform team creates natively for their audience. The result: <em>People</em> grew from six or seven million daily visitors to ten million, with explosive growth on social.</strong></p> <h3><strong>The Data-Driven Philosophy</strong></h3> <p><strong>Neil&#8217;s Wall Street background shaped how People Inc. approaches analytics, but he&#8217;s careful not to let math override instinct, noting: </strong></p> <blockquote> <h3><strong>&#8220;If you don&#8217;t make stuff people love, it doesn&#8217;t matter what your math says.&#8221; </strong></h3> </blockquote> <p><strong>The real insight is this: strategic ad placement and clean design mean you can generate more revenue with fewer intrusions on the audience. Better experience. Better margins. That&#8217;s the math he wants to do. </strong></p> <h3><strong>The Bigger Picture</strong></h3> <p><strong>What makes this conversation valuable is that Neil isn&#8217;t selling a complicated theory. He&#8217;s demonstrating a mindset: stay forward-looking, embrace change, remain unsentimental, and never stop making things people genuinely want. </strong></p> <h3><strong>Key Moments and Highlights</strong></h3> <ul> <li><strong>00:38</strong> From Dotdash to acquiring Meredith: becoming America&#8217;s largest publisher</li> <li><strong>01:25</strong> Why media remains a fantastic business despite industry pessimism</li> <li><strong>04:15</strong> The search shift: 70% dependence became 30%, yet total traffic grew</li> <li><strong>06:29</strong> Restructuring People magazine with independent platform teams and no forced repurposing</li> <li><strong>09:41</strong> Data and creative working together: how math serves, not dictates, content decisions</li> </ul> <h3>Connect with E.B. Moss and <em>Insider Interviews: With Media &amp; Marketing Experts</em></h3> <p><strong>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mossappeal">https://www.linkedin.com/in/mossappeal</a><br /> </strong><strong>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/insiderinterviews">https://www.instagram.com/insiderinterviews</a></strong><br /> <strong>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/InsiderInterviewsPodcast/">https://www.facebook.com/InsiderInterviewsPodcast/</a></strong><br /> <strong>Threads: <a href="https://www.threads.net/@insiderinterviews">https://www.threads.net/@insiderinterviews</a><br /> </strong></p> <h3><strong>If you enjoyed this episode, follow <em>Insider Interviews</em>, share with another smart business leader, and leave a comment on @Apple or @Spotify… or a tip in my jar!: <a href="https://buymeacoffee.com/mossappeal">https://buymeacoffee.com/mossappeal</a>! </strong></h3> <p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1322 aligncenter" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button-300x84.png" sizes="auto, (max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button-300x84.png 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button-1024x287.png 1024w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button-768x216.png 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button.png 1090w" alt="Support this content at buymeacoffee.com/mossappeal " width="275" height="77" /></p>
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Bonus: Enabling an AI Future: The Bleeding Edge of AI and Creativity from Freepik & Edelman
SEP 30, 2025
Bonus: Enabling an AI Future: The Bleeding Edge of AI and Creativity from Freepik & Edelman
<h3>What’s the potential and current impact of AI for the creative industries? I spoke with Joaquin Cuenca, co-founder and CEO of Freepik, about their suite of AI tools and their role in enhancing human creativity. And, Alexia Adana, Creative Director at Edelman, who elaborates on how she combines AI with human creativity for clients and her own artistic endeavors. Enjoy, and please share this episode &#8211; out just in time for #InternationalPodcastDay!</h3> <p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1753 alignleft" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/FRPK-Freepik-reimagine-slide-e1759257993926.jpg" alt="" width="587" height="328" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/FRPK-Freepik-reimagine-slide-e1759257993926.jpg 1852w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/FRPK-Freepik-reimagine-slide-e1759257993926-300x168.jpg 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/FRPK-Freepik-reimagine-slide-e1759257993926-1024x573.jpg 1024w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/FRPK-Freepik-reimagine-slide-e1759257993926-768x430.jpg 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/FRPK-Freepik-reimagine-slide-e1759257993926-1536x859.jpg 1536w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 587px) 100vw, 587px" /></p> <p><strong>Joaquin emphasizes that AI should be seen as a supportive tool to elevate creative processes, rather than a replacement for human creators. He argues, &#8216;We are the sum of our experiences. And that makes us unique.&#8217; He explains the benefits of Freepik&#8217;s tools for reducing the time needed to execute creative ideas&#8230; but stresses the irreplicability of humans based on our individuality, even as AI continues to advance. Basically, AI is a tool for creators, not a replacement, because AI cannot replicate unique human experiences.</strong></p> <p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class=" wp-image-1755" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/alexia-ai-1-300x195.jpg" alt="" width="440" height="286" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/alexia-ai-1-300x195.jpg 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/alexia-ai-1-1024x666.jpg 1024w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/alexia-ai-1-768x500.jpg 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/alexia-ai-1-1536x999.jpg 1536w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/alexia-ai-1.jpg 1768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 440px) 100vw, 440px" /></p> <p><strong>Following this, Alexia highlights the significance of human artistry and personal storytelling in using AI tools to generate immersive and engaging experiences. She points out  “in the world of copyright with AI you have to show human authorship. So if you&#8217;re creating a story or a film that&#8217;s a hundred percent generated by AI, you can&#8217;t copyright or trademark that. So, I&#8217;m documenting my whole process – showing where it&#8217;s from my vision, it&#8217;s from my sketches.”</strong></p> <p><strong>The conversation concludes with the vision of a synergistic future where AI tools enhance creative processes without devaluing the human touch.</strong></p> <p><strong>Key Moments:</strong></p> <p><strong>02:11 The Role of AI in Creativity</strong></p> <p><strong>03:19 Human Uniqueness vs. AI</strong></p> <p><strong>04:47 FreePik&#8217;s AI Tools and Their Impact</strong></p> <p><strong>08:56 Copyright and Legalities in AI</strong></p> <p><strong>14:31 Future of Jobs&#8230;and Creativity in the AI Era</strong></p> <p><strong>15:38 Voiceover Job Reclaimed from AI</strong></p> <p><strong>16:21 Regionalizing Ads with AI</strong></p> <p><strong>17:16 Alexia Adana journey from Footlocker to Edelman</strong></p> <p><strong>20:51 Microsoft sAI Project at Edelman</strong></p> <p><strong>27:08 BloomChild: An Artist&#8217;s AI Journey</strong></p> <p><strong>30:16 The Future of Human-Generated Art</strong></p> <h3>Links:</h3> <h3><a href="https://www.freepik.com/">Freepik</a></h3> <h3><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexiaadana/">Alexia Adana</a></h3> <h3>Connect with E.B. Moss and <em>Insider Interviews: With Media &amp; Marketing Experts</em></h3> <p><strong>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mossappeal">https://www.linkedin.com/in/mossappeal</a><br /> </strong><strong>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/insiderinterviews">https://www.instagram.com/insiderinterviews</a></strong><br /> <strong>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/InsiderInterviewsPodcast/">https://www.facebook.com/InsiderInterviewsPodcast/</a></strong><br /> <strong>Threads: <a href="https://www.threads.net/@insiderinterviews">https://www.threads.net/@insiderinterviews</a><br /> </strong></p> <h3><strong>If you enjoyed this episode, follow <em>Insider Interviews</em>, share with another smart business leader, and leave a comment on @Apple or @Spotify… or a tip in my jar to help <em>me</em> tip my producer, Jim Mullen!: <a href="https://buymeacoffee.com/mossappeal">https://buymeacoffee.com/mossappeal</a>! </strong></h3> <p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-1322 aligncenter" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button-300x84.png" sizes="auto, (max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button-300x84.png 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button-1024x287.png 1024w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button-768x216.png 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/yellow-button.png 1090w" alt="Support this content at buymeacoffee.com/mossappeal " width="275" height="77" /></p>
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The Reinventionists: Doug Olson & David Adler on Personal & Publishing Evolutions
SEP 5, 2025
The Reinventionists: Doug Olson & David Adler on Personal & Publishing Evolutions
<h3 data-pm-slice="1 1 []">How can mentoring lead to a whole new career? How do dinner conversations and AI come together to drive entrepreneurship? How are some people changing the world as they change gears? Talk about REINVENTION!</h3> <h3 data-pm-slice="1 1 []">Well, I did. Meet two more honorees of the Folio: awards named to the Hall of Fame, in this &#8220;two-fer&#8221; episode on Doug Olson and David Adler, both of whom have gone from being presidents of publishing companies to reinventing themselves&#8230;and parts of the industry.</h3> <h3 data-pm-slice="1 1 []"><strong>First up: Doug Olson.</strong></h3> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []"><strong>Doug went from a career in the tech side to the publishing side, ultimately running Meredith Magazines (think: &#8220;Time,&#8221; &#8220;People,&#8221; &#8220;Better Homes &amp; Gardens&#8221;&#8230;) to <span style="font-size: 16px;">NOW hangin’ with the digital natives doing bling-meets-social media, as Co-CEO of &#8220;Bomb Party,&#8221; with its TikTok-famous jewelry reveals! Bet you didn&#8217;t see THAT coming.</span></strong></p> <figure id="attachment_1739" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1739" style="width: 371px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class=" wp-image-1739" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/bhg-300x189.jpg" alt="" width="371" height="234" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/bhg-300x189.jpg 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/bhg-1024x645.jpg 1024w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/bhg-768x484.jpg 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/bhg-1536x967.jpg 1536w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/bhg-2048x1289.jpg 2048w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 371px) 100vw, 371px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1739" class="wp-caption-text">Creating Partnerships</figcaption></figure> <p><strong>He discusses the evolution of Meredith, its major acquisitions, the partnership he headed with Walmart, and how Meredith navigated its own transition &#8212; adding digital to print media.</strong></p> <figure id="attachment_1740" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1740" style="width: 365px" class="wp-caption alignright"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class=" wp-image-1740" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/bombparty-300x200.jpg" alt="" width="365" height="243" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/bombparty-300x200.jpg 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/bombparty-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/bombparty-768x512.jpg 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/bombparty-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/bombparty-2048x1366.jpg 2048w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 365px) 100vw, 365px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1740" class="wp-caption-text">&#8220;Reveals&#8221; on TikTok</figcaption></figure> <p><strong>Doug also describes his transition to #BombParty, </strong><strong>a thriving and unique jewelry company that uses social media to engage customers. </strong></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <h3 data-pm-slice="1 1 []"><strong>Then there&#8217;s David Adler. </strong></h3> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []"><strong>I cannot even keep track of all the ways David has reinvented himself: from launching a magazine on DC society back in the 70s, which he sold 10 years later for a handy profit &#8212; and is now turning those archival images into songs and content! I kid you not. </strong></p> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []"><strong>But wait, there&#8217;s more. He helmed big PR shops, but is perhaps best know for founding one of the best magazines on events, called &#8220;BizBash.&#8221; And now? SO MUCH &#8212; from recently launching an online events mag, &#8220;<a href="http://GatheringPoint.news">GatheringPoint.news</a>&#8221; to yet another startup.</strong></p> <figure id="attachment_1741" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1741" style="width: 423px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class=" wp-image-1741" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/gathering-pointcover-300x186.jpg" alt="" width="423" height="262" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/gathering-pointcover-300x186.jpg 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/gathering-pointcover-1024x634.jpg 1024w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/gathering-pointcover-768x475.jpg 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/gathering-pointcover-1536x950.jpg 1536w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/gathering-pointcover-2048x1267.jpg 2048w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 423px) 100vw, 423px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1741" class="wp-caption-text">gatheringoint.news</figcaption></figure> <p><strong>He highlights how he is an unabashed #AI acolyte and explains how it has revolutionized his latest ventures, supporting creative storytelling and increased efficiency. But David is also stopping to smell &#8220;The Roses&#8221;, making the most of his author father&#8217;s legacy by helping enable that current box office hit!</strong></p> <figure id="attachment_1742" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-1742" style="width: 349px" class="wp-caption alignright"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class=" wp-image-1742" src="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Roses2-300x179.jpg" alt="" width="349" height="208" srcset="https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Roses2-300x179.jpg 300w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Roses2-1024x612.jpg 1024w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Roses2-768x459.jpg 768w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Roses2-1536x918.jpg 1536w, https://insiderinterviews.blubrry.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Roses2.jpg 1656w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 349px) 100vw, 349px" /><figcaption id="caption-attachment-1742" class="wp-caption-text">from &#8220;The Roses&#8221;</figcaption></figure> <p><strong>Like roses themselves, these guests exemplify the concept of &#8216;perennials,&#8217; described by David as individuals who continuously evolve and remain curious, regardless of generational labels. Their stories illustrate the importance of adaptability, lifelong learning, and embracing new technologies in media or just for mental well-being!</strong></p> <h3>KEY MOMENTS:</h3> <p>00:00 Meet Doug Olson and David Adler</p> <p>02:44 Doug Olson: From Tech to Media Mogul to&#8230;</p> <p>05:36 The Better Homes &amp; Gardens / Walmart Omnichannel Strategy</p> <p>08:03 The Future of Print Publications</p> <p>11:20 Golfing or Jewelry? Doug Olson&#8217;s New Venture: Bomb Party</p> <p>14:56 David Adler: A Perennial Journey Through Media</p> <p>19:55 Adler on AI and Innovation</p> <p>24:09 Washington Insider, A Big Screen Legacy and MORE Current Projects</p> <h3>Please add a &#8220;like&#8221; or share this episode to encourage MORE &#8220;reinventionists!&#8221; And see you at the <a href="https://www.eddie-ozzie.com/go/2025-eddie-and-ozzie-awards/folio-hall-of-fame/">Folio: Hall of Fame 10/6</a>.</h3> <h4 data-pm-slice="1 1 []">Here&#8217;s Doug&#8217;s info:</h4> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []"><strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/doug-olson-62737116/">LinkedIn</a></strong></p> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []"><strong><a href="https://www.bombparty.com/">Bomb Party</a></strong></p> <h4 data-pm-slice="1 1 []">Here&#8217;s David&#8217;s info:</h4> <p><strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-adler/">LinkedIn</a></strong></p> <div><strong>Managing Director- Living Room Labs (start-up)</strong></div> <div><strong>Founder- BizBash <a href="http://www.bizbash.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.bizbash.com&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1757182447475000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3XUKYwfjO7Mn2tLDK0mk7g">www.bizbash.<wbr />com</a></strong></div> <div> <div><strong>Author- <a href="http://Harnessingserendipity.com">Harnessingserendipity.<wbr />com</a></strong></div> <div><strong>Partner- <a href="http://AdlerEntertainmentTrust.com">AdlerEntertainmentTrust.com</a></strong></div> <div><strong>Owner- <a href="http://Dossierhistoricalphotos.com">Dossierhistoricalphotos.com</a></strong></div> </div> <div> <h3>Connect with E.B. 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