Mirror Talk: Soulful Conversations

When life feels unbearably dark, even a single spark of hope can change everything. In this vulnerable solo episode of Mirror Talk: Soulful Conversations, I share a personal story of nearly giving up—and the small, unexpected moments that pulled me back toward the light.

Drawing wisdom from Holocaust survivor and psychiatrist Viktor Frankl and the early struggles of author J.K. Rowling, we’ll explore how meaning, micro-movements, and honest connection can become lifelines. You’ll also discover practical tools—like grounding exercises, gratitude practices, and micro-promises—that can help you build hope that lasts.

If you or someone you love feels close to the edge, this episode is a gentle reminder: you are not alone, and tunnels do end. Crisis resources are included in the show notes.

Welcome back to Mirror Talk: Soulful Conversations. In this episode, Tobi sits with transformational catalyst and visionary leader Devon Kerns, known widely as the King of Curiosity, Chaos and Stillness. With a remarkable journey shaped by entrepreneurship, ancient wisdom, plant medicine, emotional intelligence and personal loss, Devon carries a presence that both awakens and disarms.

Together they explore:

• How Devon’s Zen rooted quote became the guiding philosophy of his life
• The grief of losing his father and how heartbreak became initiation
• Curiosity, chaos and stillness as a powerful creation model for leaders
• Why AI may be humanity’s greatest evolutionary ally
• How to build businesses that heal people, land and money
• The spiritual role psychedelics have played in his leadership journey
• Presence as the new productivity and the art of simply being
• Conscious parenting in a world where technology, soul and legacy meet
• The soul aligned questions Devon asks himself every day
• A message for anyone standing at the edge of transformation

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Transformation and Curiosity

02:41 The Importance of Relationships and Love

05:16 Overcoming Excuses and Embracing Action

07:59 The Value of the Journey

10:28 Changing Society's Perspective on Life

13:33 Embracing Humanity and Spirituality

16:06 The Impact of Grief and Loss

21:19 Finding Value in Existence

24:59 Chaos, Stillness, and Curiosity in Life

31:24 The Journey of Manifestation

32:22 Embracing Chaos and Finding Stillness

33:45 Curiosity as a Tool for Creation

35:42 Creating from Chaos: A Practical Approach

36:08 Rootedness and Connection to Mother Earth

40:45 The Importance of Emotional Intelligence in Leadership

47:16 Raising Emotionally Intelligent Children

58:32 Finding Presence in Chaos

This is a conversation that invites you to slow down, breathe and see your life with new eyes. If you have been craving a deeper path, a more conscious way of leading or a more grounded experience of being human, Devon’s wisdom will speak directly to your soul.

In this soulful solo episode, Tobi Ojekunle dives deep into the emotional trap of people-pleasing — what he calls “the disease to please.” Through the powerful and heartbreaking story of Robin Williams, this episode explores how constantly seeking approval can quietly steal our peace, authenticity, and joy.

Tobi shares a heartfelt reflection, ancient wisdom, biblical grounding, and practical, step-by-step tools to help you recognise, unlearn, and heal from this pattern. If you've ever said “yes” when your soul screamed “no,” this episode is your sacred permission to choose yourself.

✨ Topics Covered:

• The root causes of people-pleasing
• Signs you might be suffering from the disease to please
• Practical healing strategies and boundary-setting tips
• Biblical reflection: Galatians 1:10
• A guided reflection and healing prayer

🎧 Tune in now and start your journey back to authenticity and self-love.

📝 Reflection Prompt:
Where in my life am I trading truth for approval?

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In this inspiring episode of Mirror Talk: Soulful Conversations, Tobi sits down with Lori Pappas, a pioneer, humanitarian and author whose life reflects true courage, deep resilience and the beauty of transformation. From being one of the first female computer sales reps in the world to becoming an award-winning entrepreneur, Lori’s early years were filled with trailblazing breakthroughs. Yet even after achieving what many describe as the American Dream, she discovered that purpose is far more profound than success.

Her journey eventually led her to found the Global Team for Local Initiatives and relocate to Ethiopia, where her humanitarian work has touched more than 100,000 lives. In her book The Magic of Yes, she teaches the DREAM framework, a transformational guide for reconnecting with inner wisdom and living in alignment with the truth of who you are.

Together, Tobi and Lori explore themes of personal growth, intuition, love, spirituality and the constant unfolding of purpose. Lori also shares her beautiful story of finding love at 67 and reflects on how nature, presence and spiritual practice nourish her calling to serve.

This episode is perfect for listeners seeking clarity, empowerment and a deeper connection to the wisdom within.

What You Will Learn

• How to define yourself by who you are rather than what you do
• Why challenges often become gateways into deeper wisdom
• The power of reflection in cultivating self-awareness
• The meaning of living in alignment with your values

• What Lori learned about love and vulnerability in later life
• Why saying yes to life opens doors to transformation

Episode Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Resilience and Transformation
02:50 Self-Reflection and Personal Growth
05:38 Navigating Challenges as a Female Pioneer
08:18 Knowing Your Worth
10:53 Finding Purpose Beyond Success
13:35 The Role of Reflection in Gaining Wisdom
22:18 Overcoming Noise and Baggage
23:41 The DREAM Framework Explained
27:50 Living in Alignment
30:36 The Magic of Yes: Embracing Life
34:42 Finding Love at 67
41:48 The Value of Relationships
42:38 Practicing Presence and Mindfulness

Who is Lori Pappas?

Lori Pappas is a pioneer, humanitarian, and author whose life reflects the power of resilience and reinvention. In her 20s, she became one of the first female computer sales reps in the world, later becoming an award-winning entrepreneur. After discovering that retirement did not bring fulfilment, she founded the Global Team for Local Initiatives and moved to Ethiopia, where her work has touched more than 100,000 lives. Her reflections and wisdom inspired her book, The Magic of Yes and the transformational DREAM framework that guides individuals to embrace their inner wise woman.

In this vulnerable solo episode of Mirror Talk: Soulful Conversations, we explore what it means to be a dark horse—the underestimated soul carrying unseen baggage from trauma, betrayal, or painful experiences. Through heartfelt storytelling, real-life examples like Oprah Winfrey, Michael Phelps, and J.K. Rowling, and practical steps to release resentment, Tobi Ojekunle invites you to lay down your burdens and step into your brightest life.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

• How to recognise the hidden baggage and grudges weighing you down
• Real-world stories of transformation from public figures who turned pain into power
• Practical, soulful steps to release resentment and reclaim your future
• Why forgiving isn’t weakness, but freedom
• Encouragement for every “dark horse” to rise and thrive

Power Quote from the Episode:
“Letting go doesn’t erase your past—it opens your future. You are not your trauma. You are the possibility waiting to unfold.”

Call to Action:
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