Where Optimal Meets Practical
Where Optimal Meets Practical

Where Optimal Meets Practical

Jordan Lips

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When it comes to nutrition and training...talking about what's optimal is always fun, but making it practical changes lives. On this show we'll dive deep on all things training, nutrition, and mindset optimization while making sure to drive home the practical and applicable side of things.-JL

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289 - Dr. Emily Dow: Gut Health, Fueling, and the Truth About Eating Enough
MAR 30, 2026
289 - Dr. Emily Dow: Gut Health, Fueling, and the Truth About Eating Enough
<p>In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Emily Dow to break down some of the biggest misconceptions in nutrition and fitness right now. We get into why simple advice often falls short, how understanding the “why” can actually improve results, and where most people are getting tripped up with things like gut health, fueling, and eating enough.</p><p>---</p><p><strong>Guest:</strong></p><p>Emily Dow is a registered dietitian with a PhD in exercise and nutritional sciences, blending research, coaching, and real-world application to help people better understand how to fuel their bodies.</p><p>---</p><p><strong>What We Cover:</strong></p><ul><li>00:00 Why a PhD changes how you think about nutrition and uncertainty</li><li>08:05 What Emily has changed her mind about including gut health and probiotics</li><li>16:25 The messy reality of research and why quick recommendations can be misleading</li><li>24:50 Why explaining the “why” leads to better results than just giving advice</li><li>30:47 How to balance simplicity with nuance in coaching and content</li><li>37:01 Why women struggle to build muscle and the importance of eating enough</li><li>41:46 The real reason “eat more” advice exists even with rising obesity rates</li><li>47:24 Practical fueling strategies for lifting and cardio</li></ul><p>---</p><p><strong>Connect with Emily:</strong></p><p>Instagram: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/emilydow_rd/">https://www.instagram.com/emilydow_rd/</a></p><p>---</p><p><strong>Connect with Jordan:</strong></p><p>Instagram: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/jordanlipsfitness/">https://www.instagram.com/jordanlipsfitness/</a> </p><p>WOMP Training: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://marketplace.trainheroic.com/workout-plan/team/womp-gym-home-bundle?attrib=548099-ig">https://marketplace.trainheroic.com/workout-plan/team/womp-gym-home-bundle?attrib=548099-ig</a></p>
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287: Akash Patel - Science vs Policy: The Dietary Guidelines Problem
MAR 17, 2026
287: Akash Patel - Science vs Policy: The Dietary Guidelines Problem
<p>The U.S. Dietary Guidelines are supposed to reflect the best available nutrition science… but what happens when the final recommendations don’t match the evidence?</p><p>In this episode, I’m joined by Akash Patel to break down how the Dietary Guidelines are created, where they diverged from the scientific report, and what this means for nutrition, public health, and your everyday food choices.</p><p>Akash Patel is an MD/MBA student at the University of Miami focused on nutrition, lifestyle medicine, and public health, with a focus on improving nutrition education in healthcare.</p><p>What we cover:</p><ul><li>12:50 – How the Dietary Guidelines are created (DGAC explained)</li><li>17:43 – Why most Americans don’t follow the guidelines</li><li>23:27 – Where the final guidelines diverge from the science</li><li>34:24 – Issues with the new guidelines (visuals, messaging, contradictions)</li><li>58:31 – Key differences: plant protein, processed foods, health equity</li><li>1:19:50 – How U.S. guidelines compare to other countries</li><li>1:30:25 – Plant vs animal protein and long-term health outcomes</li><li>1:45:51 – Practical ways to eat more plant protein</li></ul><p>Connect with Akash:</p><ul><li>Instagram: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/akashpatel">https://www.instagram.com/akashpatel</a></li></ul><p>Key resources mentioned:</p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://cdn.realfood.gov/DGA.pdf">USA Dietary Guidelines</a></p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.dietaryguidelines.gov/sites/default/files/2024-12/Part%2520A_ExecutiveSummary_FINAL_508.pdf">USA Dietary Guidelines Scientific Advisory Committee Executive Summary</a></p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://cdn.realfood.gov/Scientific%20Report_508.pdf">List of 56 Recommendations from DGAC to HHS</a></p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38522617/">Misinformation about the dietary guidelines (transparency/conflicts) PMID: 38522617</a></p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20702750/">U.S. population largely does not follow dietary recommendations PMID: 20702750</a></p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31529069/">Greater adherence to HEI and health outcomes PMID: 31529069</a></p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25441965/">U.S. food supply not aligned with recommendations PMID: 25441965</a></p><p>NHS and HPFS studies (fruits/vegetables, physical activity, plant vs animal protein) PMID: 33641343, 41574252, 27479196</p>
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285: Andy de Santis (@andytherd) - "Ode to Legumes": Fatty liver, fiber, and what actually matters
FEB 23, 2026
285: Andy de Santis (@andytherd) - "Ode to Legumes": Fatty liver, fiber, and what actually matters
<p><strong>Episode Description 👇🏼</strong></p><p>In this episode of WOMP, Jordan sits down with registered dietitian Andy De Santis to break down the real drivers of fatty liver, the underrated power of fiber, and why legumes might be one of the most practical nutrition upgrades most people are missing.</p><p>They dig into metabolic health, ultra-processed food nuance, plant vs animal protein, and how to focus on the habits that actually move the needle.</p><p>If you want an evidence-based, practical approach to nutrition without the fear-mongering, this episode is for you.</p><p>-</p><p><strong>What You Will Learn👇🏼</strong></p><p>• What fatty liver actually is and what drives it</p><p>• Why fiber intake is still too low for most people</p><p>• The metabolic benefits of legumes</p><p>• Plant vs animal protein: what matters most</p><p>• Where the ultra-processed food conversation gets oversimplified</p><p>• Practical nutrition habits that compound over time</p><p>-</p><p><strong>Timestamps👇🏼</strong></p><p>00:00 Intro and welcome</p><p>02:10 Andy’s background and nutrition philosophy</p><p>05:45 Why Andy focuses on metabolic health</p><p>09:30 What is happening in fatty liver</p><p>14:50 Biggest drivers of fatty liver risk</p><p>20:05 Fiber and metabolic health</p><p>24:40 The case for legumes</p><p>29:15 Why beans are underutilized</p><p>33:50 Protein quality nuance</p><p>39:10 Ultra-processed foods discussion</p><p>45:25 Practical diet improvements</p><p>50:40 Where most people should start</p><p>55:30 Rapid-fire nutrition advice</p><p>59:10 Where to find Andy</p><p>-</p><p><strong>Connect with Andy👇🏼</strong></p><p>Instagram: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/andytherd">https://www.instagram.com/andytherd</a></p><p>Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://andytherd.com">https://andytherd.com</a></p><p>Twitter/X: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/andytherd">https://twitter.com/andytherd</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/andydesantisrd/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/andydesantisrd/</a></p><p>Andy De Santis is a registered dietitian known for his practical, evidence-based approach to metabolic health and plant-forward nutrition.</p><p>-</p><p><strong>Connect with Jordan👇🏼</strong></p><p>Instagram: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/jordanlipsfitness/">https://www.instagram.com/jordanlipsfitness/</a></p><p>Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://jordanlipsfitness.com/">https://jordanlipsfitness.com/</a> </p><p>WOMP Coaching: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://marketplace.trainheroic.com/workout-plan/team/womp-gym-home-bundle?attrib=548099-ig">https://marketplace.trainheroic.com/workout-plan/team/womp-gym-home-bundle?attrib=548099-ig</a></p><p>Jordan Lips is the founder of WOMP (Where Optimal Meets Practical), helping busy adults build evidence-based nutrition and training habits that actually stick.</p>
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68 MIN