In this interview, psychotherapist Jessica Baum returns to discuss her second book, "Safe," which expands beyond her first book "Anxiously Attached" to cover all attachment styles through a "Wheel of Attachment," embedded attachment wounds, and the neuroscience of healing. She explains how attachment patterns shape nervous system responses during conflict. Anxious tendencies can include people-pleasing, fear of abandonment, and escalation, while avoidant tendencies can include withdrawal and shutdown. She also discusses how early caregiver attunement, rupture and repair, and emotional presence influence a child's felt sense of safety. Baum describes "earned security" as possible at any age through neuroplasticity and "anchoring relationships" that provide consistent, warm co-regulation and disconfirming experiences. She notes that people often gravitate toward familiar chaos. She also addresses navigating relationships when only one partner commits to the work and shares practical starting points like mapping core wounds and seeking safe, supportive connections.Connect with our guest Jessica Baum!  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jessicabaumlmhc/  Order “Safe” Today: https://jessicabaumlmhc.com/safe  Connect with Eli and The Dude Therapist! Book “From I Do To We Do”: https://www.eliweinsteinlcsw.com/book - Order Today! Eli’s Instagram: @eliweinstein_lcsw: https://www.instagram.com/eliweinstein_lcsw/ Podcast Instagram: @TheDudeTherapist: https://www.instagram.com/thedudetherapist/   This show is Hosted and Produced by Eli Weinstein and Rainbow Creative (https://www.rainbowcreative.co/) with Executive Producer Matthew “MoJo” Jones and Associate Producer & Editor Xavier Adetula. For Sales and Sponsorship opportunities reach out to Shane Thornton at [email protected] CHAPTERS 00:00 Conflict and Attachment 00:47 Meet Jessica Baum 01:58 Why Safe Matters 04:20 Vulnerability and Healing 08:07 Attachment Goes Mainstream 12:21 Childhood Wiring Explained 15:07 What Safety Means 20:02 Earned Secure Attachment 22:35 Choosing Safe People 26:20 When Partners Diverge 31:03 Practical Takeaways 32:51 Where to Find Jessica 33:41 Closing Thanks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices