<p>Shiny Happy People star Chad Harris joins us on this episode to discuss the latest developments in the Joe/Kendra Duggar cases. We discuss the potentially fake documents published by Katie Joy of the YouTube Channel "Without a Crystal Ball," the Joe/Kendra Duggar phone call, statements made by Jinger/Jeremy, and Jason/Maddie. In the third segment we answer listener questions about the arrests, about the Duggars, and about the IBLP in general.</p><p>These are the two appeals to loss of parental rights cases we mentioned in the episode.</p><br><p><a href="https://law.justia.com/cases/arkansas/court-of-appeals/2025/cv-24-747.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><u>https://law.justia.com/cases/arkansas/court-of-appeals/2025/cv-24-747.html</u></a></p><p><a href="https://law.justia.com/cases/arkansas/court-of-appeals/2025/cv-25-38.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><u>https://law.justia.com/cases/arkansas/court-of-appeals/2025/cv-25-38.html</u></a><u> </u></p><br><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>01:44 - Subscribe to our Patreon!</p><p>02:20 - NO VICTIM SPECULATION</p><p>02:45 - Katie Joy and the fake(?) court documents</p><p>04:50 - What is a trusted source?</p><p>08:04 - Josh got visitation with his kids</p><p>11:02 - Thank you to our patrons!</p><p>12:48 - Statement from Jinger and Jeremy</p><p>15:40 - Statement from Jason and Maddie</p><p>19:50 - IBLP fails young men</p><p>22:00 - Phone call between Joe and Kendra</p><p>24:58 - Kendra is in a difficult spot</p><p>29:25 - Every home is a cult and every father is a cult leader</p><p>30:23 - Why do we talk about this? The stakes are high!</p><p>34:53 - Listener Questions! 35:17 - 6th amendment rights</p><p>37:35 - Why did Jim Bob want to be on TV?</p><p>40:47 - Child Endangerment Clarification</p><p>45:08 - What if the Duggars were allowed to date?</p><p>47:29 - Gothardism and Jim Bob's trauma</p><p>53:54 - Why are all the Duggar daughters social media influencers?</p><p>55:35 - Did Jim Bob and Michelle reconsider their choices?</p><p>55:58 - Why do the women stay?</p><p>57:50 - How to bring down the IBLP</p><p>Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube!</p><p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ</p><br><p>Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content!</p><p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast</a></p><br><p>Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans!</p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus</a></p><br><p>Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus</p><p>Bluesky:</p><p>@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social</p><p>@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social</p><p>@gavihacohen.bsky.social</p><p>Instagram:</p><p>https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/</p><p>https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/</p><p>https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>