Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!In this episode of OpsCast, hosted by Michael Hartmann and powered by MarketingOps.com, Michael is joined by co-hosts Mike Rizzo and Naomi Liu for a wide-ranging conversation with Lauren McCormack, Lead Strategist for the B2B Experience Platform at Kaiser Permanente.Lauren brings a rare perspective shaped by hands-on experience across Marketing Ops, RevOps, sales, paid media, and analytics. As a multi-time Marketo Champion and MOPsapalooza speaker, she has spent her career helping marketing teams move beyond activity metrics and earn real credibility with revenue leaders.The discussion focuses on what it takes for modern marketing teams to think and operate like business leaders. Lauren shares practical insights on alignment, attribution, financial literacy, and why many teams still struggle to connect their work to real business outcomes.In this episode, you will learn:How cross-functional experience changes the way Ops leaders think about impactWhy earning a seat at the revenue table requires more than good reportingThe right way to approach attribution without overengineering or blameWhy financial literacy is becoming non-negotiable for Marketing Ops leadersThe risks of continuing to market without clear measurement as 2026 approachesThis episode is ideal for Marketing Ops, RevOps, and demand leaders who want to elevate their influence, improve executive trust, and prepare their teams for the next phase of data-driven decision-making.Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations ProfessionalsSupport the show