<p><strong>What should we say to vegans?</strong></p>
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<p>Benny Malone returns to the podcast to discuss with me what people should say to vegans instead of the usual excuses. Benny joined me in Season One in the episode entitled "Discussing Veganism with Others" where Benny talks about his top five fallacies vegans encounter when talking with others and I talk about my top three tips when engaging with others about veganism. </p>
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<p>Benny is the author of <em>How to Argue with Vegans</em>, an analysis of anti-vegan arguments. He’s an autodidact in science, nature and philosophy. And if there’s a book about veganism out there, he’s read it cover to cover. </p>
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<p><strong>Website/Socials</strong></p>
<p><strong>Benny Malone</strong></p>
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<p>@BennyMalone on Facebook @benny_malone_ on on Instagram and @BennyMaloneUK on X </p>
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<p><strong>Emi Leese</strong></p>
<p><a href="https://emilialeese.substack.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://emilialeese.substack.com</a> </p>
<p><a href="http://thinklikeavegan.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">http://thinklikeavegan.com</a> </p>
<p><a href="http://emilialeese.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">http://emilialeese.com</a> </p>
<p>@emi.leese or @thinklikeavegan, Instagram, Facebook, X, Threads</p>
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<p><strong>Credits</strong></p>
<p><strong>Host</strong>: Emilia A. Leese </p>
<p><strong>Guest</strong>: Benny Malone</p>
<p><strong>Production & Engineering</strong>: Jim Moore of Bloody Vegans Productions; <a href="https://www.bloodyvegansproductions.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.bloodyvegansproductions.com</a> </p>
<p><strong>Graphics</strong>: Catherine Dorrell <a href="https://www.messyvegancook.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.messyvegancook.com</a> </p>
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<p><strong>Music</strong></p>
<p><strong>Opening theme</strong>: “Flashbacks” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business </p>
<p><strong>Interlude</strong>: "Gendrone" by Matthew Gerstenberger; Seismicity on Soundcloud <a href="https://on.soundcloud.com/3Pf8g" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://on.soundcloud.com/3Pf8g</a> </p>
<p><strong>Closing theme</strong>: “Tear Things Up” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business</p>
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<p>This podcast is part of iROAR, the Animals Podcasting Network <a href="https://iroarpod.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://iroarpod.com</a> </p>
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