<h2>Show Chapters</h2><p><a href="https://share.descript.com/view/gN6AcEX0f3p">Full-text transcript</a></p><ul><li>Coming to America (01:15)</li><li>Coming to Microsoft (03:50)</li><li>Blaster (09:16)</li><li>Cortana (20:05)</li><li>The Speaker (22:03)</li><li>Trust and AI (31:11)</li><li>Promotion to Partner (40:04)</li><li>Partnerships (46:30)</li><li>What brought Harris outsized joy (55:59)</li></ul><h2>Links from the show</h2><ul><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaster_(computer_worm">Blaster Worm</a></li><li><a href="https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/com/component-object-model--com--portal">COM</a></li><li><a href="https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/openspecs/windows_protocols/ms-dcom/4a893f3d-bd29-48cd-9f43-d9777a4415b0">DCOM protocol specification</a></li><li><a href="https://support.harmankardon.com/us/en/speakers/speakers-bluetooth-wireless/INVOKE.html?color=graphite">Harmon Kardon Invoke speaker</a></li><li><a href="mailto:jlam@iunknown.com">Send me feedback!</a></li></ul><h2>Music credits</h2><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />Track: Lost In Medina — Amine Maxwell [Audio Library Release]<br />Music provided by Audio Library Plus<br />Watch: <a href="https://youtu.be/qNSdpqSkRe4">https://youtu.be/qNSdpqSkRe4</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://alplus.io/lost-medina">https://alplus.io/lost-medina</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>


<description>&lt;h2&gt;Show Chapters&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://share.descript.com/view/gN6AcEX0f3p"&gt;Full-text transcript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Coming to America (01:15)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Coming to Microsoft (03:50)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Blaster (09:16)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Cortana (20:05)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Speaker (22:03)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Trust and AI (31:11)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Promotion to Partner (40:04)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Partnerships (46:30)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;What brought Harris outsized joy (55:59)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Links from the show&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaster_(computer_worm"&gt;Blaster Worm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/com/component-object-model--com--portal"&gt;COM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/openspecs/windows_protocols/ms-dcom/4a893f3d-bd29-48cd-9f43-d9777a4415b0"&gt;DCOM protocol specification&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://support.harmankardon.com/us/en/speakers/speakers-bluetooth-wireless/INVOKE.html?color=graphite"&gt;Harmon Kardon Invoke speaker&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="mailto:jlam@iunknown.com"&gt;Send me feedback!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Music credits&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––&lt;br /&gt;Track: Lost In Medina — Amine Maxwell [Audio Library Release]&lt;br /&gt;Music provided by Audio Library Plus&lt;br /&gt;Watch: &lt;a href="https://youtu.be/qNSdpqSkRe4"&gt;https://youtu.be/qNSdpqSkRe4&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Free Download / Stream: &lt;a href="https://alplus.io/lost-medina"&gt;https://alplus.io/lost-medina&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––&lt;/p&gt;
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Harris Syed defied conventional wisdom in his unlikely journey from Pakistan to the Partner band at Microsoft. 

Ep. 14 Defying Conventional Wisdom: Harris Syed

<h2>Show Chapters</h2><p><a href="https://share.descript.com/view/rn88DVvncmV">Full-text transcript</a></p><ul><li>Intro (00:36)</li><li>What is a PM? (00:58)</li><li>Remote is hard (03:39)</li><li>Pivotal Moment #1: Moving to Redmond (04:46)</li><li>Great Managers (07:24)</li><li>From Feature Team to Cross-Team Collaboration (08:23)</li><li>Owning cross-company collaboration (10:44)</li><li>From acquisition to a partnership playbook (16:39)</li><li>Creating the Visual Studio Code C++ Extension (17:30)</li><li>Pivotal Moment #2: Becoming a Manager (21:05)</li><li>Autonomy vs. Directed (23:58)</li><li>Has your perception of a manager changed much now that you are one? (25:04)</li><li>Situational Leadership (26:16)</li><li>Coaching vs. autonomy (30:27)</li><li>Pivotal Moment #3: Dev to PM (32:47)</li><li>What brought Rong outsized joy (37:12)</li><li>Outtro (39:46)</li></ul><h2>Links from the show</h2><ul><li><a href="https://thriveglobal.com/stories/a-great-boss-is-hard-to-find-difficult-to-leave-and-impossible-to-forget/">A Great Boss is hard to find, difficult to leave, and impossible to forget</a></li><li><a href="mailto:jlam@iunknown.com">Send me feedback!</a></li></ul><h2>Music credits</h2><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />Track: Lost In Medina — Amine Maxwell [Audio Library Release]<br />Music provided by Audio Library Plus<br />Watch: <a href="https://youtu.be/qNSdpqSkRe4">https://youtu.be/qNSdpqSkRe4</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://alplus.io/lost-medina">https://alplus.io/lost-medina</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>


<description>&lt;h2&gt;Show Chapters&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://share.descript.com/view/rn88DVvncmV"&gt;Full-text transcript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Intro (00:36)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;What is a PM? (00:58)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Remote is hard (03:39)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Pivotal Moment #1: Moving to Redmond (04:46)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Great Managers (07:24)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;From Feature Team to Cross-Team Collaboration (08:23)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Owning cross-company collaboration (10:44)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;From acquisition to a partnership playbook (16:39)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Creating the Visual Studio Code C++ Extension (17:30)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Pivotal Moment #2: Becoming a Manager (21:05)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Autonomy vs. Directed (23:58)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Has your perception of a manager changed much now that you are one? (25:04)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Situational Leadership (26:16)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Coaching vs. autonomy (30:27)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Pivotal Moment #3: Dev to PM (32:47)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;What brought Rong outsized joy (37:12)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Outtro (39:46)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Links from the show&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://thriveglobal.com/stories/a-great-boss-is-hard-to-find-difficult-to-leave-and-impossible-to-forget/"&gt;A Great Boss is hard to find, difficult to leave, and impossible to forget&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="mailto:jlam@iunknown.com"&gt;Send me feedback!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Music credits&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––&lt;br /&gt;Track: Lost In Medina — Amine Maxwell [Audio Library Release]&lt;br /&gt;Music provided by Audio Library Plus&lt;br /&gt;Watch: &lt;a href="https://youtu.be/qNSdpqSkRe4"&gt;https://youtu.be/qNSdpqSkRe4&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Free Download / Stream: &lt;a href="https://alplus.io/lost-medina"&gt;https://alplus.io/lost-medina&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––&lt;/p&gt;
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Rong is a PM Manager at Microsoft and a 16+ year veteran of Developer Division. This is the story of her journey from engineer to PM to PM Manager, and from China to the United States.

Ep. 13 Rong Lu: from Engineer to PM to Manager, her 16+ year journey at Microsoft

<h2>Show Chapters</h2><p><a href="https://share.descript.com/view/W8iybbr0D6V">Full-text transcript</a></p><ul><li>Intro (00:36)</li><li>The mystery of the churning Jupyter notebook users (01:45)</li><li>The importance of understanding your users (09:32)</li><li>From an aptitude test in high school to industrial design (13:05)</li><li>Learning industrial design at Western Washington University (15:10)</li><li>First job out of college (17:59)</li><li>Getting fired from her first job (20:15)</li><li>Becoming an intern again (22:04)</li><li>An opportunity to learn what she really wanted to do (22:48)</li><li>A crash course in becoming a UX Designer, on the job (27:05)</li><li>Why team is more important than technology (30:22)</li><li>Jill is now a full-time employee! (36:03)</li><li>On rediscovering things that bring us joy (38:16)</li><li>How to optimize your Kindle experience (41:03)</li><li>An outsized amount of joy: a plain air tripod (45:05)</li><li>Conclusion (47:33)</li><li>Outtro (48:43)</li></ul><h2>Links from the show</h2><ul><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/jilljacmakes/">Jill's Instagram</a></li><li><a>Jill's web site</a></li><li><a href="https://www.aimstesting.org/faq#:~:text=Aptitude%20Inventory%20Measurement%20Service%20(AIMS,high%20school%20and%20college%20students.">AIMS Aptitude Testing</a></li><li><a href="https://www.overdrive.com/apps/libby">Libby</a></li><li><a href="https://app.thestorygraph.com/">Story Graph</a></li></ul><h2>Music credits</h2><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />Track: Lost In Medina — Amine Maxwell [Audio Library Release]<br />Music provided by Audio Library Plus<br />Watch: <a href="https://youtu.be/qNSdpqSkRe4">https://youtu.be/qNSdpqSkRe4</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://alplus.io/lost-medina">https://alplus.io/lost-medina</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>


<description>&lt;h2&gt;Show Chapters&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://share.descript.com/view/W8iybbr0D6V"&gt;Full-text transcript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Intro (00:36)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The mystery of the churning Jupyter notebook users (01:45)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The importance of understanding your users (09:32)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;From an aptitude test in high school to industrial design (13:05)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Learning industrial design at Western Washington University (15:10)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;First job out of college (17:59)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Getting fired from her first job (20:15)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Becoming an intern again (22:04)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;An opportunity to learn what she really wanted to do (22:48)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;A crash course in becoming a UX Designer, on the job (27:05)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Why team is more important than technology (30:22)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jill is now a full-time employee! (36:03)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;On rediscovering things that bring us joy (38:16)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;How to optimize your Kindle experience (41:03)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;An outsized amount of joy: a plain air tripod (45:05)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Conclusion (47:33)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Outtro (48:43)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Links from the show&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/jilljacmakes/"&gt;Jill's Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a&gt;Jill's web site&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.aimstesting.org/faq#:~:text=Aptitude%20Inventory%20Measurement%20Service%20(AIMS,high%20school%20and%20college%20students."&gt;AIMS Aptitude Testing&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.overdrive.com/apps/libby"&gt;Libby&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://app.thestorygraph.com/"&gt;Story Graph&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Music credits&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––&lt;br /&gt;Track: Lost In Medina — Amine Maxwell [Audio Library Release]&lt;br /&gt;Music provided by Audio Library Plus&lt;br /&gt;Watch: &lt;a href="https://youtu.be/qNSdpqSkRe4"&gt;https://youtu.be/qNSdpqSkRe4&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Free Download / Stream: &lt;a href="https://alplus.io/lost-medina"&gt;https://alplus.io/lost-medina&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––&lt;/p&gt;
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Jill shares with us her story of resilience and grit that leads to her current position as a Senior UX Designer at Microsoft. Jill turned the disappointment of being fired from her first job in industrial design into a successful career designing some of the most complex user interfaces at Microsoft.

Ep.12 Jill Jacobson: on UX Design at Microsoft, her circuitous journey to UX design from industrial design, and rediscovering joy from creative pursuits

<h2>Link</h2><p>Link to the <a href="https://share.descript.com/view/4eYM13ArJF3">full-text transcript</a></p><h2>Show Chapters</h2><ul><li>A Pivotal Moment: Getting Healthy 01:32</li><li>Writing down calories in and calories out 03:00</li><li>Tim's first adult bicycle 04:33</li><li>One in, one out 06:37</li><li>Change can be more permanent if you do it with others 07:39</li><li>Early career: developer evangelism 08:54</li><li>Into the lion's den: Open Source 10:08</li><li>Better ways to learn from our field organization 12:31</li><li>How to listen to your biggest fans 16:07</li><li>A Pivotal Moment: moving from evangelism to product 17:49</li><li>The ship bug 18:57</li><li>Some career advice 21:22</li><li>A Pivotal Moment: moving into people management 22:22</li><li>Finding time for IC work 23:45</li><li>Beginner's mind 25:37</li><li>Tip: creating separation between work and home 27:12</li><li>It's not just people that change, organizations can change too 30:10</li><li>A Pivotal Moment: someone saw something in Tim 31:48</li><li>Old tools vs. new tools: which are more productive? 35:12</li><li>Access 2.0 36:47</li><li>Low code vs. high code vs. ? 38:34</li><li>Pickleball: An outsized amount of joy 40:33</li></ul><h2>Links from the show</h2><ul><li>Tim's <a href="https://twitter.com/timheuer">Twitter</a></li><li>Tim's <a href="https://timheuer.com">Web Site</a></li><li><a href="https://timheuer.com/blog/post-13224">OSCON 2006: The Lion's Den</a></li><li><a href="https://moots.com/">Moots Cycles</a></li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/14/business/pickleball-courts-private-development.html">Pickleball in NYT</a></li></ul><h2>Music credits</h2><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />Track: Lost In Medina — Amine Maxwell [Audio Library Release]<br />Music provided by Audio Library Plus<br />Watch: <a href="https://youtu.be/qNSdpqSkRe4">https://youtu.be/qNSdpqSkRe4</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://alplus.io/lost-medina">https://alplus.io/lost-medina</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>


<description>&lt;h2&gt;Link&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;Link to the &lt;a href="https://share.descript.com/view/4eYM13ArJF3"&gt;full-text transcript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Show Chapters&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;A Pivotal Moment: Getting Healthy 01:32&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Writing down calories in and calories out 03:00&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tim's first adult bicycle 04:33&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;One in, one out 06:37&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Change can be more permanent if you do it with others 07:39&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Early career: developer evangelism 08:54&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Into the lion's den: Open Source 10:08&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Better ways to learn from our field organization 12:31&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;How to listen to your biggest fans 16:07&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;A Pivotal Moment: moving from evangelism to product 17:49&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The ship bug 18:57&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Some career advice 21:22&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;A Pivotal Moment: moving into people management 22:22&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Finding time for IC work 23:45&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Beginner's mind 25:37&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tip: creating separation between work and home 27:12&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;It's not just people that change, organizations can change too 30:10&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;A Pivotal Moment: someone saw something in Tim 31:48&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Old tools vs. new tools: which are more productive? 35:12&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Access 2.0 36:47&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Low code vs. high code vs. ? 38:34&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Pickleball: An outsized amount of joy 40:33&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Links from the show&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tim's &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/timheuer"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tim's &lt;a href="https://timheuer.com"&gt;Web Site&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://timheuer.com/blog/post-13224"&gt;OSCON 2006: The Lion's Den&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://moots.com/"&gt;Moots Cycles&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/14/business/pickleball-courts-private-development.html"&gt;Pickleball in NYT&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Music credits&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––&lt;br /&gt;Track: Lost In Medina — Amine Maxwell [Audio Library Release]&lt;br /&gt;Music provided by Audio Library Plus&lt;br /&gt;Watch: &lt;a href="https://youtu.be/qNSdpqSkRe4"&gt;https://youtu.be/qNSdpqSkRe4&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Free Download / Stream: &lt;a href="https://alplus.io/lost-medina"&gt;https://alplus.io/lost-medina&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––&lt;/p&gt;
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Tim Heuer is a Principal PM Manager at Microsoft. A 17 year veteran of the company, Tim shares with us some pivotal moments in his life: getting healthier, transitioning from evangelism to product, moving and getting re-org'd at the company, becoming a people manager, and creating a healthy work-life balance.

Ep.11 Tim Heuer: on changing from evangelism to product development, making changes to his health, and the characteristics of a great PM

<h2>Feedback wanted!</h2><p>Please send specific feedback to: <a href="mailto:jlam@iunknown.com">jlam@iunknown.com</a>  and help me make the show better for you!</p><ul><li>What would you like to get out of this podcast series? </li><li>What other questions would you like me to ask? </li><li>What other guests would you like me to talk to? </li></ul><h2>Link to the <a href="https://share.descript.com/view/FodE83U58Pw">full text transcript</a></h2><h2>Links to sections (with timestamps)</h2><ul><li>Intro</li><li>Change: 01:34</li><li>Changing from Academia to Industry: 01:46</li><li>Changing from the Army Rangers to Microsoft: 03:02</li><li>Changing from Bay Street to Microsoft Way: 04:36</li><li>Changing from solving other peoples' problems to creating problems for other people to solve: 05:56</li><li>Changing a role from PM to Developer: 09:12</li><li>Moving from Windows to DevDiv: 12:08</li><li>Change is the only constant: 16:17</li><li>School doesn't always prepare you for the job: 23:34</li><li>Learning on the job: 25:39</li><li>Trying on the new job for size: 30:17</li><li>A (somewhat) traditional Microsoft Internship: 30:54</li><li>The value of a co-op program: trying many different jobs on for size: 32:30</li><li>From an MBA to Data Science: 36:31</li><li>On making mistakes: 40:18</li><li>Conclusion: 48:07</li></ul><h2>External Links</h2><h2>Music credits</h2><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />Track: Lost In Medina — Amine Maxwell [Audio Library Release]<br />Music provided by Audio Library Plus<br />Watch: <a href="https://youtu.be/qNSdpqSkRe4">https://youtu.be/qNSdpqSkRe4</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://alplus.io/lost-medina">https://alplus.io/lost-medina</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>


<description>&lt;h2&gt;Feedback wanted!&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;Please send specific feedback to: &lt;a href="mailto:jlam@iunknown.com"&gt;jlam@iunknown.com&lt;/a&gt;  and help me make the show better for you!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;What would you like to get out of this podcast series? &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;What other questions would you like me to ask? &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;What other guests would you like me to talk to? &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Link to the &lt;a href="https://share.descript.com/view/FodE83U58Pw"&gt;full text transcript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Links to sections (with timestamps)&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Intro&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Change: 01:34&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Changing from Academia to Industry: 01:46&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Changing from the Army Rangers to Microsoft: 03:02&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Changing from Bay Street to Microsoft Way: 04:36&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Changing from solving other peoples' problems to creating problems for other people to solve: 05:56&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Changing a role from PM to Developer: 09:12&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Moving from Windows to DevDiv: 12:08&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Change is the only constant: 16:17&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;School doesn't always prepare you for the job: 23:34&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Learning on the job: 25:39&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Trying on the new job for size: 30:17&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;A (somewhat) traditional Microsoft Internship: 30:54&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The value of a co-op program: trying many different jobs on for size: 32:30&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;From an MBA to Data Science: 36:31&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;On making mistakes: 40:18&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Conclusion: 48:07&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;h2&gt;External Links&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Music credits&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––&lt;br /&gt;Track: Lost In Medina — Amine Maxwell [Audio Library Release]&lt;br /&gt;Music provided by Audio Library Plus&lt;br /&gt;Watch: &lt;a href="https://youtu.be/qNSdpqSkRe4"&gt;https://youtu.be/qNSdpqSkRe4&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Free Download / Stream: &lt;a href="https://alplus.io/lost-medina"&gt;https://alplus.io/lost-medina&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––&lt;/p&gt;
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Looking back at the interviews with my first 9 guests through the lens of Change, Trying the Job on for Size, and Mistakes.

Ep.10 The Wisdom of my guests: looking at my conversations with my first 9 guests through the lens of Change, Trying on the Job for Size, and Mistakes

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