<h2>Show Chapters</h2><p><a href="https://share.descript.com/view/rn88DVvncmV">Full-text transcript</a></p><ul><li>Intro (00:36)</li><li>What is a PM? (00:58)</li><li>Remote is hard (03:39)</li><li>Pivotal Moment #1: Moving to Redmond (04:46)</li><li>Great Managers (07:24)</li><li>From Feature Team to Cross-Team Collaboration (08:23)</li><li>Owning cross-company collaboration (10:44)</li><li>From acquisition to a partnership playbook (16:39)</li><li>Creating the Visual Studio Code C++ Extension (17:30)</li><li>Pivotal Moment #2: Becoming a Manager (21:05)</li><li>Autonomy vs. Directed (23:58)</li><li>Has your perception of a manager changed much now that you are one? (25:04)</li><li>Situational Leadership (26:16)</li><li>Coaching vs. autonomy (30:27)</li><li>Pivotal Moment #3: Dev to PM (32:47)</li><li>What brought Rong outsized joy (37:12)</li><li>Outtro (39:46)</li></ul><h2>Links from the show</h2><ul><li><a href="https://thriveglobal.com/stories/a-great-boss-is-hard-to-find-difficult-to-leave-and-impossible-to-forget/">A Great Boss is hard to find, difficult to leave, and impossible to forget</a></li><li><a href="mailto:jlam@iunknown.com">Send me feedback!</a></li></ul><h2>Music credits</h2><p>––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––<br />Track: Lost In Medina — Amine Maxwell [Audio Library Release]<br />Music provided by Audio Library Plus<br />Watch: <a href="https://youtu.be/qNSdpqSkRe4">https://youtu.be/qNSdpqSkRe4</a><br />Free Download / Stream: <a href="https://alplus.io/lost-medina">https://alplus.io/lost-medina</a><br />––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––</p>


<description>&lt;h2&gt;Show Chapters&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://share.descript.com/view/rn88DVvncmV"&gt;Full-text transcript&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Intro (00:36)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;What is a PM? (00:58)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Remote is hard (03:39)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Pivotal Moment #1: Moving to Redmond (04:46)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Great Managers (07:24)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;From Feature Team to Cross-Team Collaboration (08:23)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Owning cross-company collaboration (10:44)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;From acquisition to a partnership playbook (16:39)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Creating the Visual Studio Code C++ Extension (17:30)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Pivotal Moment #2: Becoming a Manager (21:05)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Autonomy vs. Directed (23:58)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Has your perception of a manager changed much now that you are one? (25:04)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Situational Leadership (26:16)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Coaching vs. autonomy (30:27)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Pivotal Moment #3: Dev to PM (32:47)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;What brought Rong outsized joy (37:12)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Outtro (39:46)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Links from the show&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://thriveglobal.com/stories/a-great-boss-is-hard-to-find-difficult-to-leave-and-impossible-to-forget/"&gt;A Great Boss is hard to find, difficult to leave, and impossible to forget&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="mailto:jlam@iunknown.com"&gt;Send me feedback!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Music credits&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;p&gt;––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––&lt;br /&gt;Track: Lost In Medina — Amine Maxwell [Audio Library Release]&lt;br /&gt;Music provided by Audio Library Plus&lt;br /&gt;Watch: &lt;a href="https://youtu.be/qNSdpqSkRe4"&gt;https://youtu.be/qNSdpqSkRe4&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Free Download / Stream: &lt;a href="https://alplus.io/lost-medina"&gt;https://alplus.io/lost-medina&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––&lt;/p&gt;
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Rong is a PM Manager at Microsoft and a 16+ year veteran of Developer Division. This is the story of her journey from engineer to PM to PM Manager, and from China to the United States.

Pivotal Moments with John Lam

Ep. 13 Rong Lu: from Engineer to PM to Manager, her 16+ year journey at Microsoft

Ep. 13 Rong Lu: from Engineer to PM to Manager, her 16+ year journey at Microsoft

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