Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Imperfect Marketing, I sit down with Jonny Holsten of BridgeSelling to unpack why sales gets such a bad reputation—and how to fix it. We dive into what actually works in modern sales conversations (hint: it’s not scripts or pressure).Jonny shares his journey from marketing into sales strategy and how that shift led to his book Fix Your Broken Sales Calls. Together, we explore how to move from chasing leads to building meaningful, problem-solving conversations.Here’s what we cover:From Leads to “Best Fit” Clients Why all leads are not worth your time  The 4-part framework for identifying a true “best fit” customer  How narrowing your focus actually increases conversions Why Sales Feels “Icky” (and How to Fix It) The real reason selling feels uncomfortable for so many people  Why belief in what you’re selling changes everything  The difference between pushing a sale and solving a problem The Power of Better Questions How great sales conversations start with curiosity, not pitching  Why most salespeople skip identifying the real problem  A simple technique to get prospects to open up more Handling Inbound Leads the Right Way Why inbound leads aren’t always qualified (and that’s okay)  How to guide conversations like a consultant, not a salesperson  The importance of setting expectations and taking control early Knowing When to Walk Away How to gracefully exit conversations with poor-fit prospects  Why referring someone elsewhere can actually grow your business  The mindset shift: serving first, selling second Improving Sales Without More Leads Why most teams lack a clear plan for sales calls  How small tweaks to discovery calls can drive massive revenue growth  The importance of reviewing and learning from your own calls Key Takeaways Selling should feel like helping—not convincing  Clarity in your message makes everything easier  The better your questions, the better your results Connect with Jonny:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonnyholsten/If sales has ever felt uncomfortable, awkward, or forced—this episode will change how you think about it.Ready to make sales feel natural (and actually work)? Tune in. Looking to leverage AI? Want better results? Want to think about what you want to leverage?Check and see how I am using it for FREE on YouTube. From "Holy cow, it can do that?" to "Wait, how does this work again?" – I've got all your AI curiosities covered. It's the perfect after-podcast snack for your tech-hungry brain. Watch here