<p>We’ve been Zoomed, Teamed and grouped into a kind of social fatigue. Yet something is shifting, leaders are craving <em>real</em> rooms again.?</p><p>In this latest episode of <strong>Off Topic but On Point</strong>, I sat down with my brilliant friends <strong>Dr. Janine de Cabo</strong> (The Intentionalist) and <strong>Ps Christo Pretorius</strong> (The Expander) to explore why <strong>in-person communities and leadership circles are making a comeback</strong>, and why they’re reshaping business, mindset, and even our nervous systems.</p><p>We unpack:</p><p>✅ Why <em>online gives scale but in-person gives substance</em>✅ The neuroscience of connection: oxytocin, safety, and creativity✅ How to know if you’re in the <em>right</em> room (and why the wrong room is the most expensive one you’ll ever be in)✅ The difference between “networks” and <em>relationships that transform</em>✅ Why leaders in <strong>Adelaide, Australia—and everywhere—</strong> need to be intentional about the spaces they enter</p><p>💡 Key insight: <em>You don’t need more information. You need transformation. And transformation only happens in the right room.</em></p><p>Why This Matters for Leaders & Entrepreneurs</p><p>We’ve been Zoomed, Teamed, and grouped into a kind of <strong>social fatigue</strong>. What people are craving now isn’t another notification, it’s <em>authentic connection</em>.</p><p>Here in Adelaide, through <strong>SustainHer Hills</strong>, I see it every month:✨ Women walk in heavy, tired, and isolated.✨ They walk out lighter, clearer, calmer, and more resourceful for both business and life.</p><p>The same is happening globally. From mastermind boardrooms to local collectives, leaders are rediscovering that <strong>community is the currency of the future</strong>.</p><p>Quick Actions for You</p><p><strong>Audit your rooms:</strong> Who are the 5 people closest to you right now? Are they stretching you?<strong>Find your people:</strong> Stop chasing bigger audiences, start building a better circle.<strong>Go local:</strong> Whether you’re in Adelaide, Cape Town, or New York, look for small, intentional communities where real transformation can happen.</p><p>If this episode resonated, share it with a friend or colleague who needs a reminder that the <em>right room changes everything!</em></p><p></p><p></p><p></p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://odettedebeer.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_2">odettedebeer.substack.com/subscribe</a>