The Rumors are True Podcast

On this episode of The Rumors Are True, Jeremy is joined by Stephen Laurenson from Copeland, along with discussions surrounding his work in States, Abloom, and Demure. Stephen reflects on his time with Copeland and the band’s lasting influence on the indie and alternative scene through their emotionally rich songwriting, ambient textures, and deeply personal live performances. The conversation explores the creative process behind the music, life on the road, and how Copeland built a dedicated fanbase through authenticity and artistic evolution over the years. Jeremy and Stephen also dive into the experience of joining Copeland during an important season for the band, collaborating with Aaron Marsh and the rest of the group, and helping bring the band’s layered sound to life both in the studio and on stage. They discuss the balance between technical musicianship and emotional connection, the challenges of longevity in music, and how Copeland’s catalog continues to resonate with listeners who grew up with the band’s music soundtracking important moments in their lives. The episode also highlights Stephen’s work with States, the indie-rock project featuring former members of Lydia and Copeland. Stephen shares stories about the formation of the band, the creation of Room to Run, and the passion behind crafting music that blended cinematic atmosphere with heartfelt indie-rock songwriting. The conversation touches on the creative freedom that States embraced, the connection fans still have with the project, and how those experiences shaped him as both a musician and songwriter. With additional reflections on Abloom and Demure, this episode is filled with honest conversation, behind-the-scenes stories, and nostalgia for fans of indie, emo, and alternative music scenes from the 2000s and beyond. Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.

On this episode of The Rumors Are True, Jeremy sits down with Mark Rose from the legendary Spitalfield to talk about the rise of the early 2000s emo and post-hardcore scene, the band’s journey through the Chicago music community, and the lasting impact of albums like Remember Right Now. Mark reflects on the formative years of Spitalfield, touring life, songwriting, and what it was like navigating the changing landscape of alternative music during a pivotal era for independent bands. The conversation also dives into Mark’s creative life beyond Spitalfield, including his solo work and his passion for helping artists connect with fans through custom songwriting and community-driven projects. Jeremy and Mark discuss how nostalgia, personal growth, and staying inspired continue to shape the music they love and the scenes they came from. From stories about Victory Records and Chicago’s exploding punk and emo movement to reflections on friendship, creativity, and longevity, this episode is packed with honest insight and memorable moments for longtime fans and newcomers alike. Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwesArtwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowserMusic by Brian Jerin R.I.P.

In this episode of The Rumors Are True, Jeremy sits down with Bradley Swanson, known for his work in Pep Squad and The Company, for an honest and reflective conversation about his journey through music, creativity, and personal growth. Bradley shares stories from the early days of both bands, offering insight into the DIY spirit, the relationships that shaped the music, and the challenges of navigating a constantly evolving scene. Fans of underground and independent music will appreciate the behind-the-scenes look at what it really took to build something meaningful during that era. The conversation also explores Bradley’s perspective on how music intersects with identity, faith, and life beyond the stage. He opens up about lessons learned over the years, the highs and lows of being in a band, and how those experiences continue to influence him today. Jeremy and Bradley keep things conversational and genuine, making this episode feel like a deep catch-up between old friends while still inviting listeners into the story. Whether you followed Pep Squad, The Company, or are just discovering Bradley’s work, this episode captures the heart of what The Rumors Are True is all about—preserving stories, celebrating creativity, and finding truth in the journey. Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P. Ads do not influence the answers you get from ChatGPT. Your chats stay private. Learn about ads and personalization

In this episode of The Rumors Are True, Jeremy sits down with Dave Elkins of Mae for a deep, reflective journey through the band’s entire catalog—tracing the evolution of both the music and the meaning behind it. From the early days of Destination: Beautiful through the fan-favorite The Everglow and into the more experimental and expansive later releases, the conversation highlights how each record represents a specific season of life, creativity, and intention. Mae’s identity as a “multisensory aesthetic experience” becomes a thread throughout, revealing how the band always aimed to create something bigger than just songs. Dave opens up about the stories, emotions, and philosophies that shaped each era of the band—from youthful ambition and touring life to deeper themes of connection, purpose, and artistic growth. The episode explores how albums like Singularity and the (m)(a)(e) EP series pushed boundaries sonically and conceptually, ultimately leading to the band’s later work and renewed vision. Along the way, listeners get insight into Dave’s songwriting process, the band’s evolving dynamics, and how time and perspective have reshaped his relationship with these songs. More than just a retrospective, this episode feels like a guided walkthrough of Mae’s legacy—offering longtime fans new context and inviting new listeners into the heart behind the music. It’s a conversation about art, memory, and the enduring impact of creating with intention. Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchastbowser Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.

In this episode of The Rumors Are True, Jeremy sits down with Dale Thompson, the unmistakable voice behind the legendary Christian metal band Bride. Known for their bluesy, hard rock edge and fearless approach to faith and music, Dale reflects on the early days of Bride, sharing stories from the band’s rise in the late ’80s and ’90s and the challenges of carving out a unique space in both the Christian and mainstream rock scenes. His candid perspective offers a deeper look at the passion and conviction that fueled the band’s longevity. The conversation also dives into Dale’s personal journey—his evolving faith, the highs and lows of life on the road, and how his perspective has shifted over the years. With honesty and humor, he opens up about the realities behind the music, from industry struggles to staying creatively inspired decades into his career. Fans of Bride and newcomers alike will appreciate this engaging and heartfelt discussion, packed with behind-the-scenes stories, spiritual insight, and a reminder of why Dale Thompson remains such a compelling and influential voice in rock music. Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.