The Rumors are True Podcast

In this special returning guest episode of The Rumors Are True, Jeremy welcomes back Johnathon Ford and Matthew Putman from the acclaimed instrumental post-rock band Unwed Sailor. As longtime collaborators and creative partners, Johnathon and Matthew dive deep into the band's remarkable journey, reflecting on the evolution of Unwed Sailor and the creative vision that has guided the band through multiple eras of independent music. A major focus of this conversation is a deep dive into Unwed Sailor's last three releases, culminating with their latest album. Johnathon and Matthew discuss the songwriting, recording process, themes, and musical growth represented across these records, offering listeners a behind-the-scenes look at how the band's sound has continued to develop while remaining true to its roots. Fans will enjoy hearing the stories, inspirations, and challenges that shaped these albums and the artistic decisions that brought them to life. The conversation also explores their extensive musical histories, including Johnathon's work with Pedro the Lion, Roadside Monument, and other projects, as well as Matthew's contributions to Living Sacrifice, Lovedrug, and numerous other musical endeavors. Whether you're a longtime fan of Unwed Sailor or discovering their music for the first time, this episode offers an engaging look at creativity, collaboration, faith, perseverance, and the passion that continues to fuel meaningful art. Produced by Wesley Hill (@thebigwes)Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser (@jaredchasebowser)Music by Brian Jerin — R.I.P. Copyright Disclaimer: Any music featured in this episode is used for commentary, criticism, review, and promotional purposes only. The Rumors Are True Podcast does not own the rights to any copyrighted music that may be played during this episode. All rights, including copyrights, remain the property of their respective owners. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of The Rumors Are True, Jeremy welcomes Bob Nanna from the influential bands Braid, Hey Mercedes, etc. for a conversation diving deep into the roots of emo, independent music culture, songwriting, and the lasting impact of the underground scene. Bob reflects on the early days of Braid, the creative energy that surrounded the Midwest punk and emo movement, and how those experiences shaped both his music and personal life over the years. The discussion explores the transition from Braid into Hey Mercedes, the evolution of songwriting through different eras, and the challenges of balancing creativity with the realities of touring and adulthood. Jeremy and Bob also talk about the continued influence of these records on younger generations of musicians and fans, as well as the importance of authenticity in art and community. From DIY shows to landmark albums, this episode captures a unique perspective from one of the defining voices of the scene. Filled with nostalgia, thoughtful reflection, and stories from decades of making music, this episode is a must-listen for fans of emotional punk, indie rock, and the bands that helped shape alternative music in the late ’90s and early 2000s. Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P. Disclaimer: I do not own the rights to this song/music. All rights belong to the respective owners. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of The Rumors Are True, Jeremy sits down with Christopher Lee Lewis from the post-hardcore band The Kinison for a deep conversation about music, chaos, creativity, and the journey that took the band from small-town Illinois to sharing stages with some of the biggest names in alternative rock. Known for their explosive energy, emotionally charged songwriting, and cult classic album What Are You Listening To?, The Kinison left a lasting mark on the early 2000s underground scene. Christopher opens up about the band’s origins, the move to California, touring life, and the passion that fueled The Kinison during a wild era of post-hardcore and punk rock. The conversation also explores the band’s connection to Casey Chaos, who helped champion the group early on, as well as the lasting impact the music still has on fans today. Jeremy and Christopher reflect on the highs and lows of the music industry, creative burnout, and the complicated realities artists face behind the scenes. This episode is filled with honest stories, nostalgia, and insight into one of the most underrated bands of the 2000s post-hardcore scene. Whether you discovered The Kinison through the Mortgage Is Bank EP, the LaSalle Records era, or years later through word of mouth, this conversation captures the heart behind the music and the legacy the band continues to carry. Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P. Disclaimer: I do not own the rights to this song/music. All rights belong to the respective owners. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of The Rumors Are True, Jeremy is joined by Stephen Laurenson from Copeland, along with discussions surrounding his work in States, Abloom, and Demure. Stephen reflects on his time with Copeland and the band’s lasting influence on the indie and alternative scene through their emotionally rich songwriting, ambient textures, and deeply personal live performances. The conversation explores the creative process behind the music, life on the road, and how Copeland built a dedicated fanbase through authenticity and artistic evolution over the years. Jeremy and Stephen also dive into the experience of joining Copeland during an important season for the band, collaborating with Aaron Marsh and the rest of the group, and helping bring the band’s layered sound to life both in the studio and on stage. They discuss the balance between technical musicianship and emotional connection, the challenges of longevity in music, and how Copeland’s catalog continues to resonate with listeners who grew up with the band’s music soundtracking important moments in their lives. The episode also highlights Stephen’s work with States, the indie-rock project featuring former members of Lydia and Copeland. Stephen shares stories about the formation of the band, the creation of Room to Run, and the passion behind crafting music that blended cinematic atmosphere with heartfelt indie-rock songwriting. The conversation touches on the creative freedom that States embraced, the connection fans still have with the project, and how those experiences shaped him as both a musician and songwriter. With additional reflections on Abloom and Demure, this episode is filled with honest conversation, behind-the-scenes stories, and nostalgia for fans of indie, emo, and alternative music scenes from the 2000s and beyond. Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of The Rumors Are True, Jeremy sits down with Mark Rose from the legendary Spitalfield to talk about the rise of the early 2000s emo and post-hardcore scene, the band’s journey through the Chicago music community, and the lasting impact of albums like Remember Right Now. Mark reflects on the formative years of Spitalfield, touring life, songwriting, and what it was like navigating the changing landscape of alternative music during a pivotal era for independent bands. The conversation also dives into Mark’s creative life beyond Spitalfield, including his solo work and his passion for helping artists connect with fans through custom songwriting and community-driven projects. Jeremy and Mark discuss how nostalgia, personal growth, and staying inspired continue to shape the music they love and the scenes they came from. From stories about Victory Records and Chicago’s exploding punk and emo movement to reflections on friendship, creativity, and longevity, this episode is packed with honest insight and memorable moments for longtime fans and newcomers alike. Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwesArtwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowserMusic by Brian Jerin R.I.P. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices