<p>This week’s episode is four years in the making, as Ash sits down with her brother, Campbell Butterss, for a conversation that is both deeply personal and authentically honest.&nbsp;</p><p>Cam reflects on their shared upbringing, growing up in an environment that was at times unpredictable. The subtle dynamics and unspoken patterns that shaped them both, and how sport became an outlet and a way to navigate emotions he didn’t yet have the words for.</p><p>At sixteen years sober, Cam opens up about his journey into sobriety at 26, the moments that led him to take a more honest look at his relationship with alcohol, and the support systems that helped him find a new way forward. Ash and Cam explore the evolving nature of family and friendships in recovery, what shifts, what stays the same, and what it takes to step out of old roles and into something more aligned.</p><p>They also touch on the realities of Campbell’s career in real estate, and the tools he’s developed to move through uncertainty and pressure without falling back into old patterns. Woven throughout the conversation are themes of growth, perspective, and the grounding influence of fatherhood, as Campbell shares how becoming a dad has shaped the way he lives, leads, and shows up today.</p><br><p><strong>Episode Chapters:</strong></p><p>00:00 Introduction to the Retreats</p><p>01:19 Meet Campbell Butters: A Personal Journey</p><p>02:33 The Importance of Family and Relationships</p><p>04:37 Navigating Life's Challenges: A Personal Reflection</p><p>06:51 Finding Purpose in Real Estate</p><p>09:02 The Roller Coaster of Real Estate</p><p>12:16 Tools for Resilience in a Volatile Industry</p><p>14:58 Hiding Behind a Smile: The Struggles of 2009</p><p>19:00 Childhood Memories and Family Dynamics</p><p>21:38 The Role of Sport in Escaping Reality</p><p>26:11 The Impact of Alcohol on Life Choices</p><p>29:28 Lessons Learned from Family Success</p><p>31:10 Teenage Rebellion and Authority Issues</p><p>33:05 The Journey Begins: A Geographical Escape</p><p>34:34 The Struggles of Alcoholism: A Year of Excess</p><p>37:48 The Turning Point: Realizations and Recovery</p><p>41:08 Finding Support: The Early Days of Sobriety</p><p>43:12 Facing Second Rock Bottom: Dealing with Trauma</p><p>47:18 Spiritual Awakening: The Role of Spirituality in Recovery</p><p>51:26 Family Dynamics: Navigating Relationships in Recovery</p><p>54:10 Friendship Changes: The Pain of Growing Apart</p><p>01:00:43 Fatherhood: The Greatest Gift and Responsibility</p><p>01:03:16 Non-Negotiables: Keys to a Fulfilling Life</p><br><p>You can connect withCampbell using the links below:</p><p>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/campbell_butterss/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Campbell Butterss</a></p><p>Website: <a href="https://www.marshallwhite.com.au/agent/campbell-butterss" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Marshall White Real Estate</a></p><br><p>Follow and connect with Ash on:&nbsp;</p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/ashbutterss/%20%E2%81%A0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">⁠Instagram⁠</a>&nbsp;@ashbutterss</p><p>TikTok <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@behindthesmilewithashb" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@behindthesmilewithashb</a></p><p><a href="http://www.ashbutterss.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Website⁠ <strong>www.ashbutterss.com</strong></a></p><br><p><strong>Upcoming Workshops:</strong></p><br><p><strong>Join Ash on retreat in 2026!</strong></p><br><p><a href="https://www.ashbutterss.com/the-embodied-woman-retreat" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Embodied Woman Retreat | Gold Coast | May 2026&nbsp;</a></p><br><p><a href="https://www.ashbutterss.com/bali-retreat-2026" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rest and Renew Holistic Retreat in Bali | August 2026</a></p><br><p>Watch Ash’s <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfclluaXT4Q" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">TEDx Talk here</a>!</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>