<p><strong>ABOUT THE EPISODE</strong></p><p>Listen in as David Schrock &amp; Trent Hunter interview Charles Lyons and Jordan Howe on their respective articles for Christ Over All and Center for Baptist Leadership</p><p><strong>Timestamps</strong></p><ul><li>00:25 – Intro</li><li>03:43 – The incident at Cities Church Hits Close to Home</li><li>06:08 – How David Met Charles Lyons</li><li>08:00 – Charles Lyons’ Story</li><li>22:32 – Having a Plan in Place</li><li>26:23 – Distinguishing Between Different Incidents &amp; What to Do</li><li>28:48 – How to Onboard Well for a Safety Team</li><li>33:08 – What Did It Look Like for the Ushers to Remove Disruptors?</li><li>37:32 – What Should Be Said to Them? What Type of Force is Righteous in that Situation?</li><li>41:54 – The Value of Having Song and Other Strategies to Have in Mind</li><li>45:50 – The Mind of the Pastor in the Moment to Act</li><li>49:00 – Closing Thoughts &amp; Ending on a Note of Song</li><li>54:10 – Closing Prayer from Trent</li><li>55:58 – Outro</li></ul><p><strong> Resources to Click</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://christoverall.com/article/concise/protestors-are-coming-to-your-church-are-you-ready-twenty-five-action-steps-before-the-day-comes/">“Protestors are Coming to Your Church Are You Ready? Twenty-Five Action Steps Before the Day Comes”</a> – Charles Lyons</li><li><a href="https://centerforbaptistleadership.org/when-worship-is-attacked-churches-must-be-prepared-to-restore-order/">“When Worship is Attacked, Churches Must Be Prepared to Restore Order”</a> – Jordan Howe</li><li><a href="https://kingdom-defense.com/">Kingdom Defense Ministries</a></li><li><a href="https://cityhopeinternational.org/">City Hope International</a></li><li>Theme of the Month: <a href="https://christoverall.com/theme/the-god-who-is-there-contemplating-the-doctrine-of-god/">The God Who is There: Contemplating the Doctrine of God</a></li><li><a href="https://christoverall.com/give/">Give to Support the Work</a><strong></strong></li></ul>