What do wine and parenting have in common? More than you think. In this insightful and surprisingly funny conversation, Lisa sits down with luxury wine expert and author Danielle Frank to explore how the language of wine can help us rethink how we raise humans. From control and expectations to identity, independence, and imperfection—this episode challenges modern parenting norms and reminds us that growth isn’t about perfection… it’s about becoming. What We Explore: Why kids (like wine) need space to breathe The hidden pressure of “perfect parenting” How expectations can quietly damage relationships Why community—not control—raises healthy humans The power of letting go and trusting the process What “faults” teach us about identity and resilience Standout Moments: “The majority of your relationship with your child will be with them as an adult.” “Sometimes the best thing you can do… is step back and let it breathe.” “We teach kids how to behave—but also what to expect from others.” “It’s not failure. It’s evolution.” “Imperfection doesn’t ruin the bottle—it makes it unique.” About Danielle: Danielle Frank is a luxury wine and spirits expert with over 20 years of experience, including leadership roles at Moët Hennessy and Bacardi. She is the author of A Wine Lover’s Guide to Parenting—a witty, insightful book that blends wine terminology with real-life parenting wisdom. 🔗 Connect with Danielle: instragram @createagreatstory    website: www.daniellefrankauthor.net Available on all podcast platforms + YouTube Connect with Lisa: Website: https://liberatedmenopause.ca Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lboate Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/leaninfindyourwayhome/ Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/245092311417467 📩 Email: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices