<description>&lt;div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt; &lt;p class="Paragraph SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;&lt;span class= "TextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="auto"&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;Beatrice&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;Erkers&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;decided not to pursue a PhD after concluding that she wanted to do work that had more of a positive impact on the world&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;. &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;She made her way to the Foresight Institute&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;and is now director of their &lt;a href= "https://foresight.org/focus-areas/existential-hope/"&gt;Existential Hope program&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;. &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;In this episode, she describes her reasons for op&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;timism and the work&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;she's&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;doing to create more hope around the&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;benefits of emerging technologies.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="EOP SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-props="{}"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt; &lt;p class="Paragraph SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="Paragraph SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class= "EOP SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{}"&gt;Chapters:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt; &lt;p class="Paragraph SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class= "TextRun MacChromeBold SCXW241394657 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US" data-contrast="none"&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-charstyle= "Strong"&gt;00:00 Introduction to Beatrice&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-charstyle= "Strong"&gt;Erkers&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span class= "LineBreakBlob BlobObject DragDrop SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class="SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br class="SCXW241394657 BCX0" /&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="TextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Normal (Web)"&gt;Bill Burke introduces Beatrice&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Normal (Web)"&gt;Er&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Normal (Web)"&gt;kers&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Normal (Web)"&gt;, Director of the Existential Hope Program at the Foresight Institute. Beatrice's work involves imagining positive futures with technology, and she co-hosts the Existential Hope Podcast&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Normal (Web)"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class= "EOP SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335559738":0,"335559739":240}"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt; &lt;p class="Paragraph SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-charstyle= "Strong"&gt;01:54 From Literature to Foresight Institute&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span class= "LineBreakBlob BlobObject DragDrop SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class="SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br class="SCXW241394657 BCX0" /&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Normal (Web)"&gt;Beatrice discusses her career path from comparative literature and history of science to her current role at the Foresight Institute. She explains how an internship and a desire for impactful work led her to discover 80,000 Hours, a resource for meaningful careers, where she found her current position.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="EOP SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335559738":0,"335559739":240}"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt; &lt;p class="Paragraph SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-charstyle= "Strong"&gt;05:21 Optimism and the Younger Generation&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span class= "LineBreakBlob BlobObject DragDrop SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class="SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br class="SCXW241394657 BCX0" /&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="TextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Normal (Web)"&gt;Beatrice&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class= "NormalTextRun ContextualSpellingAndGrammarErrorV2Themed SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Normal (Web)"&gt;shares&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Normal (Web)"&gt;her inherent optimistic bias, fueled by frustration with pessimism and the influence of Hans Rosling's fact-based optimism. She addresses the concern about rising pessimism in younger generations, advocating for meaningful work as a source of purpose.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="EOP SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335559738":0,"335559739":240}"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt; &lt;p class="Paragraph SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-charstyle= "Strong"&gt;09:56 Existential Hope Program &amp; Podcast&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span class= "LineBreakBlob BlobObject DragDrop SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class="SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br class="SCXW241394657 BCX0" /&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Normal (Web)"&gt;Beatrice explains the origin of the Existential Hope Program, inspired by a philosophy paper on existential risk and hope. She emphasizes the program's focus on creating a library of hopeful resources and exploring desired futures through technology, with the podcast serving as a flagship for these conversations.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="EOP SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335559738":0,"335559739":240}"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt; &lt;p class="Paragraph SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-charstyle= "Strong"&gt;14:53 Hope: Optimism with a Plan&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span class= "LineBreakBlob BlobObject DragDrop SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;&lt;span class= "SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br class= "SCXW241394657 BCX0" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Normal (Web)"&gt;Beatrice elaborates on the definition of hope as 'optimism with a plan,' emphasizing awareness of obstacles while believing in a better outcome. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class= "EOP SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335559738":0,"335559739":240}"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt; &lt;p class="Paragraph SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-charstyle= "Strong"&gt;19:03 Eucatastrophe and Penicillin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span class= "LineBreakBlob BlobObject DragDrop SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class="SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br class="SCXW241394657 BCX0" /&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="TextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Normal (Web)"&gt;Beatrice introduces the concept of 'eucatastrophe,' a term coined by Tolkien, as the opposite of a catastrophe,&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Normal (Web)"&gt;representing&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Normal (Web)"&gt;events that increase value in the world. She uses the invention of penicillin as a powerful example of a eucatastrophe, underscoring its profound positive impact on human life and the rapid advancements in medical treatments.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="EOP SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335559738":0,"335559739":240}"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt; &lt;p class="Paragraph SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-charstyle= "Strong"&gt;23:27 Emerging Technologies: Longevity, Neurotech, and AI&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span class= "LineBreakBlob BlobObject DragDrop SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class="SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br class="SCXW241394657 BCX0" /&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Normal (Web)"&gt;Beatrice discusses exciting emerging technologies, including longevity research becoming mainstream and the revolutionary potential of neurotech for mental health. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="EOP SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335559738":0,"335559739":240}"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt; &lt;p class="Paragraph SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-charstyle= "Strong"&gt;29:40 Addressing Climate Change with Hope&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span class= "LineBreakBlob BlobObject DragDrop SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class="SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br class="SCXW241394657 BCX0" /&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="TextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Normal (Web)"&gt;Beatrice tackles eco-anxiety by recommending Hannah Ritchie's 'Not the End of the World,' which uses data to show that climate change&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Normal (Web)"&gt;isn't&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Normal (Web)"&gt;as dire as often portrayed and that solutions exist. She emphasizes human problem-solving capabilities and the importance of focusing on high-leverage interventions rather than individual, often perceived as pointless, actions.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="EOP SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335559738":0,"335559739":240}"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt; &lt;p class="Paragraph SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-charstyle= "Strong"&gt;36:08 World Building for 2035 and 2045&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span class= "LineBreakBlob BlobObject DragDrop SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;&lt;span class= "SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br class= "SCXW241394657 BCX0" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Normal (Web)"&gt;Beatrice explains the Foresight Institute's 'world building' projects for 2035 and 2045, initially focused on AI timelines, which now reflect faster progress. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="EOP SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335559738":0,"335559739":240}"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt; &lt;p class="Paragraph SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-charstyle= "Strong"&gt;40:29 Foresight Institute's Future and 40th Anniversary&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span class= "LineBreakBlob BlobObject DragDrop SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class="SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br class="SCXW241394657 BCX0" /&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="TextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Normal (Web)"&gt;Beatrice outlines the exciting future for the Foresight Institute, including its 40th-anniversary celebrations with three Vision Weekend events globally and the establishment of physical hubs in San Francisco and Berlin. The Existential Hope program will continue its podcast, explore in-person conversations, and expand into short-form media to&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Normal (Web)"&gt;disseminate&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Normal (Web)"&gt;ideas on positive AI futures more broadly.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="EOP SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335559738":0,"335559739":240}"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt; &lt;p class="Paragraph SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-charstyle= "Strong"&gt;45:04 Concluding Thoughts&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span class= "LineBreakBlob BlobObject DragDrop SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class="SCXW241394657 BCX0"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br class="SCXW241394657 BCX0" /&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="TextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Normal (Web)"&gt;Bill Burke reflects on the inspiring discussion with Beatrice&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Normal (Web)"&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle="Normal (Web)"&gt;rkers&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-parastyle= "Normal (Web)"&gt;about envisioning a hopeful future and the importance of staying optimistic to achieve progress. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="EOP SCXW241394657 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335559738":0,"335559739":240}"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>

Blue Sky

Bill Burke

Beatrice Erkers Describes Her Work at the Foresight Institute and Her Optimistic Belief in Existential Hope

MAR 4, 202646 MIN
Blue Sky

Beatrice Erkers Describes Her Work at the Foresight Institute and Her Optimistic Belief in Existential Hope

MAR 4, 202646 MIN

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Beatrice Erkers decided not to pursue a PhD after concluding that she wanted to do work that had more of a positive impact on the world. She made her way to the Foresight Institute and is now director of their Existential Hope program. In this episode, she describes her reasons for optimism and the work she's doing to create more hope around the benefits of emerging technologies. Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Beatrice Erkers Bill Burke introduces Beatrice Erkers, Director of the Existential Hope Program at the Foresight Institute. Beatrice's work involves imagining positive futures with technology, and she co-hosts the Existential Hope Podcast. 01:54 From Literature to Foresight Institute Beatrice discusses her career path from comparative literature and history of science to her current role at the Foresight Institute. She explains how an internship and a desire for impactful work led her to discover 80,000 Hours, a resource for meaningful careers, where she found her current position. 05:21 Optimism and the Younger Generation Beatrice shares her inherent optimistic bias, fueled by frustration with pessimism and the influence of Hans Rosling's fact-based optimism. She addresses the concern about rising pessimism in younger generations, advocating for meaningful work as a source of purpose. 09:56 Existential Hope Program & Podcast Beatrice explains the origin of the Existential Hope Program, inspired by a philosophy paper on existential risk and hope. She emphasizes the program's focus on creating a library of hopeful resources and exploring desired futures through technology, with the podcast serving as a flagship for these conversations. 14:53 Hope: Optimism with a Plan Beatrice elaborates on the definition of hope as 'optimism with a plan,' emphasizing awareness of obstacles while believing in a better outcome. 19:03 Eucatastrophe and Penicillin Beatrice introduces the concept of 'eucatastrophe,' a term coined by Tolkien, as the opposite of a catastrophe, representing events that increase value in the world. She uses the invention of penicillin as a powerful example of a eucatastrophe, underscoring its profound positive impact on human life and the rapid advancements in medical treatments. 23:27 Emerging Technologies: Longevity, Neurotech, and AI Beatrice discusses exciting emerging technologies, including longevity research becoming mainstream and the revolutionary potential of neurotech for mental health. 29:40 Addressing Climate Change with Hope Beatrice tackles eco-anxiety by recommending Hannah Ritchie's 'Not the End of the World,' which uses data to show that climate change isn't as dire as often portrayed and that solutions exist. She emphasizes human problem-solving capabilities and the importance of focusing on high-leverage interventions rather than individual, often perceived as pointless, actions. 36:08 World Building for 2035 and 2045 Beatrice explains the Foresight Institute's 'world building' projects for 2035 and 2045, initially focused on AI timelines, which now reflect faster progress. 40:29 Foresight Institute's Future and 40th Anniversary Beatrice outlines the exciting future for the Foresight Institute, including its 40th-anniversary celebrations with three Vision Weekend events globally and the establishment of physical hubs in San Francisco and Berlin. The Existential Hope program will continue its podcast, explore in-person conversations, and expand into short-form media to disseminate ideas on positive AI futures more broadly. 45:04 Concluding Thoughts Bill Burke reflects on the inspiring discussion with Beatrice Erkers about envisioning a hopeful future and the importance of staying optimistic to achieve progress.