<p>What happens when you rebuild French wine from scratch — without appellations, without traditional grapes, and without the assumption that younger consumers care about either?</p><p>In this episode, we sit down with Antonin Bonnet, co-founder of Pierre &amp; Antonin, a fast-growing French wine brand scaling a very specific idea: Natural wine at a true mass-premium price point.</p><p>The numbers and positioning are what make this story compelling. Pierre &amp; Antonin produced ~350,000 bottles last year and is targeting ~400,000 this year, expanding across 20+ export markets. But the real unlock is how they got there — by rethinking everything from grape selection to packaging to brand storytelling.</p><p>At the core is a contrarian bet: Hybrid “resistant” grape varieties. Long dismissed by the traditional wine industry, these grapes dramatically reduce vineyard inputs — less spraying, lower labor, lower cost — enabling the brand to hit a $15–$20 price point while maintaining margins.</p><p>That economic model is paired with a sharp read on the consumer. Their average drinker is 26–27 years old — a cohort that prioritizes taste, price, sustainability, and story over varietal pedigree or appellation.</p><p>And critically, the business is built around velocity, not tradition:</p><ul><li><p><strong>Product-market fit:</strong> Pet Nat was the breakout SKU, driving ~60% of volume globally</p></li><li><p><strong>Retail unlock:</strong> Landing Trader Joe’s doubled revenue and validated U.S. national demand</p></li><li><p><strong>Go-to-market:</strong> Instagram collaborations outperform paid ads for reaching urban Gen Z consumers</p></li><li><p><strong>Brand strategy:</strong> Simplified labels and back-label education reduce friction at shelf</p></li></ul><p>There’s also a deeper industry question running through this conversation: Is wine overbuilt for the next generation?</p><p>While the trade debates appellations and varietal purity, Pierre &amp; Antonin is building for accessibility — in price, in messaging, and in experience. The result is a brand that’s growing by aligning sustainability with economics, not just storytelling.</p><p>For drinks founders, this episode is a case study in identifying white space, challenging category assumptions, and designing a business model that actually works at scale.</p><p><strong>For the latest updates, follow us:</strong></p><p><strong>Business of Drinks:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@Businessofdrinkspodcast"><u>YouTube</u></a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/business-of-drinks/"><u>LinkedIn</u></a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/bizofdrinks/"><u>Instagram @bizofdrinks</u></a></p><p><strong>Erica Duecy, co-host: </strong>Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of <em>Business of Drinks</em> and one of the drinks industry’s most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of <em>Business of Drinks</em> and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies.</p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/erica-duecy-4a35844/"><u>LinkedIn</u></a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/ericaduecy/"><u>Instagram @ericaduecy</u></a></p><p><strong>Scott Rosenbaum, co-host: </strong>Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of <em>Business of Drinks</em> and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. Most recently, he was the Portfolio Development Director at Distill Ventures. Prior to that, he was the Vice President of T. Edward Wines &amp; Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor.</p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-m-rosenbaum/"><u>LinkedIn</u></a></p><p><strong>Caroline Lamb, contributor: </strong>Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at <em>Business of Drinks</em> and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners, a Michigan-based importer and distributor.</p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/caroline-bork-lamb/"><u>LinkedIn</u></a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/borkaline/"><u>Instagram @borkaline</u></a></p><p>If you enjoyed today’s conversation, follow Business of Drinks wherever you’re listening, and don’t forget to rate and review us. Your support helps us reach new listeners passionate about the drinks industry. Thank you!</p><p><br></p>