<p><strong>Panicogenic Relaxation: Why You Feel Anxious When Feeling Calm</strong></p><p>You&#39;re finally feeling better. The anxiety has lifted. You&#39;re relaxed and calm for the first time in months or even years. So why does that feel so <em>weird</em>? And why are you suddenly anxious about feeling calm?</p><p>In this episode, Drew and Josh explore &quot;panicogenic relaxation&quot;. This is a common experience in anxiety disorder recovery where feeling normal, neutral, or relaxed can trigger concern or even high anxiety and panic. When you&#39;ve been anxious for so long, that heightened state becomes your predictable default. The absence of anxiety can feel unfamiliar, strange, or even threatening.</p><p><strong>In this episode, we discuss:</strong></p><ul><li>Why feeling calm or relaxed can feel uncomfortable or even scary during recovery</li><li>How your brain&#39;s scanning mechanisms continue even when you&#39;re no longer anxious</li><li>Why anxiety becomes a &quot;predictable pillar&quot; after long periods of struggle</li><li>The importance of practicing being relaxed, not just practicing being anxious</li><li>How the shock-attention-resistance cycle continues even when you&#39;re feeling better</li><li>Why all emotional states - including calm - need to be permissible</li><li>How to recognize when you&#39;re still checking and monitoring even during neutral states</li></ul><p><br></p><p>We also share inspiring &quot;Did It Anyway&quot; stories from the community, including someone who kept pushing through fatigue to go to new places, and another who took their first step away from 13 years of self-medication.</p><p><br></p><p>---</p><p>Want a way to ask questions about this episode or interact with other Disordered listeners?  The Disordered app is nearing release! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠<a href="https://www.disordered.fm/">Visit our home page and get on our mailing list for more information.</a>.</p><p>---</p><p>Struggling with worry and rumination that you feel you can&#39;t stop or control? <a href="https://learn.theanxioustruth.com/worry-and-rumination-explained">Check out ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Worry and Rumination Explained</a>⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, a two hour pre-recorded workshop produced by Josh and Drew. The workshop takes a deep dive into the mechanics of worrying and ruminating, offering some helpful ways to approach the seemingly unsolvable problem of trying to solve seemingly unsolvable problems.</p><p><br></p>

Disordered: Anxiety Help

Josh Fletcher and Drew Linsalata

Anxious About Feeling ... Calm? (Episode 132)

NOV 7, 202537 MIN
Disordered: Anxiety Help

Anxious About Feeling ... Calm? (Episode 132)

NOV 7, 202537 MIN

Description

<p><strong>Panicogenic Relaxation: Why You Feel Anxious When Feeling Calm</strong></p><p>You&#39;re finally feeling better. The anxiety has lifted. You&#39;re relaxed and calm for the first time in months or even years. So why does that feel so <em>weird</em>? And why are you suddenly anxious about feeling calm?</p><p>In this episode, Drew and Josh explore &quot;panicogenic relaxation&quot;. This is a common experience in anxiety disorder recovery where feeling normal, neutral, or relaxed can trigger concern or even high anxiety and panic. When you&#39;ve been anxious for so long, that heightened state becomes your predictable default. The absence of anxiety can feel unfamiliar, strange, or even threatening.</p><p><strong>In this episode, we discuss:</strong></p><ul><li>Why feeling calm or relaxed can feel uncomfortable or even scary during recovery</li><li>How your brain&#39;s scanning mechanisms continue even when you&#39;re no longer anxious</li><li>Why anxiety becomes a &quot;predictable pillar&quot; after long periods of struggle</li><li>The importance of practicing being relaxed, not just practicing being anxious</li><li>How the shock-attention-resistance cycle continues even when you&#39;re feeling better</li><li>Why all emotional states - including calm - need to be permissible</li><li>How to recognize when you&#39;re still checking and monitoring even during neutral states</li></ul><p><br></p><p>We also share inspiring &quot;Did It Anyway&quot; stories from the community, including someone who kept pushing through fatigue to go to new places, and another who took their first step away from 13 years of self-medication.</p><p><br></p><p>---</p><p>Want a way to ask questions about this episode or interact with other Disordered listeners?  The Disordered app is nearing release! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠<a href="https://www.disordered.fm/">Visit our home page and get on our mailing list for more information.</a>.</p><p>---</p><p>Struggling with worry and rumination that you feel you can&#39;t stop or control? <a href="https://learn.theanxioustruth.com/worry-and-rumination-explained">Check out ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Worry and Rumination Explained</a>⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, a two hour pre-recorded workshop produced by Josh and Drew. The workshop takes a deep dive into the mechanics of worrying and ruminating, offering some helpful ways to approach the seemingly unsolvable problem of trying to solve seemingly unsolvable problems.</p><p><br></p>