The MumSafe Pro Podcast

In this solo episode, Jen Dugard opens up about those days,  the ones where you don’t feel motivated, productive, or inspired. The days when showing up for your clients or your business feels heavy, even though you care deeply about what you do.

If you’re a trainer working with mums (or want to be the go-to trainer in your community), this episode is for you. Jen explores why “I don’t feel like doing anything” days are completely normal, the three main ways they tend to show up for trainers, and how to move through them with kindness and clarity.

Drawing from her own experience, from building Body Beyond Baby to creating Safe Return to Exercise and MumSafe™, Jen shares what nearly two decades in the industry have taught her about motivation, mindset, and building a sustainable business that supports your life, not drains it.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

• Why “off days” don’t mean you’re failing and why they’re actually part of sustainable growth
• The three types of days trainers commonly experience: overwhelmed, disheartened, and lost
• How to recognise which one you’re in and what to do next
• Practical ways to regulate, reset, and refocus without burning out
• The “power of three” method to simplify your to-do list and move forward gently
• How to use structure, support, and community to stay consistent — even when motivation fades

Key Takeaway

Your business isn’t built on motivation.
It’s built on clear foundations, small consistent actions, and community support that carries you on the hard days.

Episode Highlights

• The “47 tabs open” overwhelmed day, when you’re busy but not productive
• The disheartened day, when you’re doing the work but it feels like nothing’s moving
• The lost day, when you have time but no clear direction
• How to name what kind of day you’re having and release the guilt
• The Power of Three: the simplest tool to bring focus back to your day
• Why community and connection matter most when you feel like pulling away
• How MumSafe™ provides the structure and support to keep going through it all
  
  

Connect with Jen Dugard & MumSafe™

In this insightful episode of the MumSafe™ Podcast, Jen Dugard sits down with Exercise Physiologist and clinic founder Anna-Louise Moule, whose career has been dedicated to women’s health and cancer care for over a decade.

Anna-Louise shares her clinical expertise across breast cancer treatment, persistent pelvic pain, hypermobility, and postpartum recovery, while also offering a rare behind-the-scenes look at how she built and leads a thriving multidisciplinary clinic.
This conversation spans everything from strength training during cancer treatment to the hormonal overlap between postpartum and perimenopause, and the critical role of preventative care across a woman’s lifespan.

Perfect for exercise professionals, EPs, physios, and anyone passionate about creating safer, more informed support for women.

Highlights:

• How exercise guidelines for breast cancer have evolved, from “rest” to targeted, higher-intensity strength training
• How to safely support clients through fatigue, chemo side effects, and immunocompromise
• Understanding low-estrogen states (breastfeeding, treatment-induced menopause, perimenopause) and their impact on pelvic floor capacity
• Why postpartum and perimenopause programming share more overlap than we think
• The importance of training to the “weakest link” across complex health presentations
• How early postpartum care changes long-term women’s health outcomes
• What trainers should ask when screening women with persistent pelvic pain
• How oncology EPs, pelvic health physios, and trainers can collaborate for better client outcomes
• Anna-Louise’s transition from solo EP to multidisciplinary clinic owner
• The real challenges of leadership: boundaries, finances, hiring and navigating maternity leave
• Why preventative care, not reactive treatment, is the future of women’s health
• The value of MumSafe™ education for EPs and why collaboration beats turf wars

Key Takeaway:

Women’s health is interconnected. Whether a woman is navigating cancer treatment, postpartum recovery or perimenopause, movement is medicine and when professionals collaborate across disciplines, we give women the preventative care, strength and confidence they deserve.

About Anna-Louise Moule:

Anna has been an Exercise Physiologist since 2011 and founded Balanced Bodies Lifestyle Clinic in 2013. She has always had a strong interest in women’s health and cancer care, shaped by her active upbringing and a love of movement.

She holds a Bachelor of Exercise and Sport Science from Sydney University and a Masters in Exercise Physiology.
Today, Anna leads a multidisciplinary team of EPs, physios, dietitians and massage therapists, while also mentoring early-career EPs and female clinic owners, teaching casually at universities, and working clinically in her specialty areas, all while raising her two young girls.

Connect with Anna-Louise Moule:

In this deeply educational episode of the MumSafe™ Podcast, Jen Dugard is joined by Clinical Myotherapist, educator, and creator of The C-Section Release Method, Madelaine Longrigg.

Together, they explore the physical, emotional, and often overlooked realities of C-section recovery from scar behaviour and breath restriction to adhesions, the “shelf,” and why many women struggle to reconnect with their abdominal wall after birth.

Maddie shares her journey from young PT to internationally recognised women’s health practitioner, how she rebuilt a fully booked clinical practice after relocating, and the steps she took to align herself with the right community, practitioners, and values.

This episode is essential listening for exercise professionals wanting to better understand C-section healing, support their clients with confidence, and play a stronger role in bridging the gap between fitness and women’s health care.

Highlights:

• Maddie’s journey from personal trainer to women’s health myotherapist and educator
• How she rebuilt a thriving practice after moving interstate with no client base
• Why strategic community alignment and practitioner referrals matter
• The difference between planned and emergency C-sections and why it affects scar behaviour
• What trainers should ask during C-section pre-screening to better understand a client’s history
• The signs a scar needs attention: pain, pulling, numbness, tightness, or a visible “shelf”
• What a C-section “shelf” actually is and why it’s not just about weight
• Why breathwork is the earliest and most powerful tool for C-section healing
• Understanding trauma, dissociation, and emotional release in scar work
• How trainers can help women create safety and reconnection through movement
• The importance of abdominal activation immediately after scar release
• Why mums shouldn’t “wait until after their next baby” to get scar support
• How The C-Section Release Method is training practitioners across Australia and NZ
• Maddie’s mission to change how women are cared for physically, emotionally, and systemically
  
  

Key Takeaway:

C-section healing is far more than a scar,  it’s a whole-body, whole-nervous-system experience. When trainers understand the nuances of scar behaviour, breath, emotional safety, and abdominal reconnection, they become powerful allies in a woman’s recovery. With the right knowledge and support, mums can reclaim strength, confidence, and autonomy in their bodies.

Connect with Madelaine Longrigg:

In this live coaching episode of the MumSafe Podcast, Jen sits down with Caren Van Gastel, a MumSafe Trainer and owner of Empower Me Fitness in New Zealand. After years of splitting her time between a family business, raising her children, and running her classes, Caren is ready for her next chapter... building a sustainable, profitable business that supports mums through pregnancy, postnatal recovery, and prolapse.

Together, they look at Caren’s current class structure, financial targets, and personal goals. Jen guides her through raising her class prices with confidence, restructuring her PT services, and mapping out what a signature prolapse offering could look like. They also explore how to build referral pathways with pelvic health physiotherapists and refine her social media messaging so she can truly become known as the go-to trainer for mums with prolapse.

This episode is packed with real-life strategy, mindset shifts, and practical steps for any trainer who wants to grow their income, specialise with purpose, and create a business that actually supports their life, not drains it.

Episode Highlights

(00:01) Introducing the first live coaching call format
(00:57) Meet Caren from Empower Me Fitness and her goals for 2025
(01:20) How Caren is showing up today and where she feels stuck
(02:07) What she wants: a prolapse offering, PT clarity, and a social media plan
(02:53) Understanding her financial baseline for true safety
(04:05) Separating business and personal expenses for better clarity
(04:56) Factoring in tax, super and investments before paying yourself
(07:42) Why $500 a week isn’t enough and recalculating real-life costs
(11:23) Revenue from Mums & Bubs classes and current capacity
(12:30) Her long-running $10 community class and why it must increase
(13:36) Choosing a new aligned rate and using the MumSafe templates
(15:25) How a small price rise adds $100/week instantly
(16:32) Reviewing her PT clients and inconsistent pricing
(17:27) Why boundaries and terms matter for sustainability
(18:53) Setting usage periods and cancellation policies
(20:18) Adjusting legacy pricing with confidence
(22:29) New PT pricing and adding travel fees for mobile sessions
(23:21) Creating a clear PT price list and stopping 30-minute sessions
(25:03) Exploring whether renting a physio clinic room makes sense
(26:50) Why monthly recurring income supports stability
(29:53) Using fortnightly direct debits across the term
(33:27) Clarifying PT structure and how it fits into her longer-term vision
(37:09) Building a prolapse pathway through a physio partnership
(38:22) Mapping income potential from a prolapse speciality
(38:52) Caren’s desire to become the trainer known for prolapse support
(39:45) Meeting her income target through two clinic days + classes
(41:51) Alternative partnership models that benefit both sides
(45:12) When $80/day rent becomes worth it
(45:38) Designing a prolapse offer: consult, communication, progression
(46:42) Understanding client fears and how personalised care helps
(49:36) Structuring a 10-week prolapse program
(51:20) Bonus inclusions: breathing, lifting and lifestyle strategies
(52:11) Weekly prolapse symptom check-ins and cycle awareness
(53:39) Pricing the program and offering upfront vs payment plans
(55:56) How two days of prolapse clients can reach $1,500+ per week
(57:28) Building credibility: testimonials, assessment, and data
(59:43) Starting with trusted pelvic health physios
(01:01:42) Social media messaging for a prolapse niche
(01:03:03) Refining her Instagram bio and clarifying her speciality
(01:05:23) Recapping her action plan and next steps
(01:08:12) Feeling excited and overwhelmed — but clear
(01:10:44) Accepting that business is never “done” and enjoying the growth

Connect with Caren:

In this week’s episode of The MumSafe™ Pro Podcast, Jen is joined by Dr. Danni Antonellos, Osteopath, educator and coach driven by a mission to make world-class health and performance education accessible to everyone.

Danni is the Co-Founder of United Health Education, where she has presented seminars globally alongside the late Dr. Andrew Lock and Julie Lock, helping professionals bridge the gap between pain, performance and intelligent movement. She is also the Co-Founder of My Training Space, Co-Director of Paddo Performance and Co-Host of the Level Up with Sharelle and Danni Podcast.

With over a decade of experience in both allied health and fitness, Danni’s expertise lies in exercise prescription for strength, hypertrophy, performance and injury rehabilitation. Her approach blends science with real-world application, empowering coaches and clients to move better and perform at their best. Guided by her philosophy that movement is medicine, Danni is challenging outdated models of coaching and rehab to help people take lasting control of their health and performance.

In this conversation, we explore:

• The value of mentorship and why trainers should never stop learning
• What it looks like to bridge the gap between allied health and the fitness industry
• How to grow an online business without losing genuine connection
• Building trust and collaboration between trainers and health professionals
• Common movement myths and why strength, not stretching, matters
• How to help clients shift from dependency-based care to empowerment
• Danni’s advice for women in leadership and overcoming the “I’m not ready yet” mindset 

Key Takeaway

Movement is medicine — not just for the body, but for the mind.
When we empower clients to understand and own their movement, we help them move through pain, build strength, and live better lives.

Connect with Dr. Danni Antonellos