<p>Today’s guest is Jeremiah Smith, co-founder and CEO of OpenCover. Jeremiah explains why less than 0.05% of DeFi TVL is insured, walks through how OpenCover’s new “covered vaults” primitive eliminates the upfront cost and manual renewal problems that killed DeFi insurance adoption, and breaks down the Nexus Mutual underwriting stack that backs it all. Ryan and Jeremiah also discuss the Resolv USR fallout, the xUSD claims payout, and why embedded risk transfer is becoming table stakes for any product offering DeFi yield.</p><p>Guest Links</p><p>* Jeremiah Smith: <a target="_blank" href="https://twitter.com/itsJeremiahS">https://twitter.com/itsJeremiahS</a></p><p>* OpenCover: <a target="_blank" href="https://opencover.com">https://opencover.com</a></p><p>* Nexus Mutual: <a target="_blank" href="https://nexusmutual.io">https://nexusmutual.io</a></p><p>Host Links</p><p>* Ryan Rodenbaugh: <a target="_blank" href="https://twitter.com/ryanrodenbaugh">https://twitter.com/ryanrodenbaugh</a></p><p>* Vaults.fyi: <a target="_blank" href="https://vaults.fyi/">https://vaults.fyi</a></p><p>Subscribe and share with friends:</p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://www.wallfacer.io/podcast">https://www.wallfacer.io/podcast</a> ← Apple, YouTube, Spotify, and more!</p><p>Timestamps</p><p>* <strong>[00:00]</strong> Intro and OpenCover’s founding story</p><p>* <strong>[03:54]</strong> The “DeFi mullet” app that preceded OpenCover</p><p>* <strong>[06:40]</strong> Celsius, BlockFi, and why self-custody won</p><p>* <strong>[08:29]</strong> What OpenCover does and doesn’t underwrite</p><p>* <strong>[10:26]</strong> Yield compression and the challenge of scaling DeFi yield</p><p>* <strong>[13:01]</strong> How much DeFi capital is actually insured today</p><p>* <strong>[16:20]</strong> Why DeFi insurance adoption is so low</p><p>* <strong>[19:45]</strong> Tranching, TrueFi, and the structural shortage of conservative capital</p><p>* <strong>[22:14]</strong> OpenCover’s two verticals: protocol risk and transaction risk</p><p>* <strong>[26:01]</strong> How covered vaults work: stake, cover on, unstake, cover off</p><p>* <strong>[28:56]</strong> Premium streaming, rate dynamics, and whether insurance only works in high-rate environments</p><p>* <strong>[33:13]</strong> The Resolv USR fallout and contagion risk across Morpho vaults</p><p>* <strong>[34:46]</strong> The xUSD / Stream Finance claims payout, end to end</p><p>* <strong>[37:13]</strong> How underwriting and repricing works for Morpho vaults</p><p>* <strong>[40:00]</strong> Risk ratings vs. risk transfer: why insurance beats scores</p><p>* <strong>[43:37]</strong> The Nexus Mutual underwriting stack: syndicates, capacity, and claims</p><p>* <strong>[49:51]</strong> Who insures the insurers? Smart contract risk on the covered vault itself</p><p>* <strong>[51:13]</strong> What success looks like: embedded protection as the default</p><p></p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://wallfacerlabs.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_1">wallfacerlabs.substack.com</a>