<p>Sarah and Miranda are joined by guests Christie George and Jihii Jolly to discuss how motherhood and creativity fuel or constrain one another, and how we navigate life as mothers who also want to make art, or artists who want to mother. </p><p><strong>Links:</strong></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://thepracticepractice.substack.com/">Christie George</a>’s Practice Practice</p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://jihii.substack.com/about">Jijii Jolly</a>’s Time Spent</p><p>* Christie’s book, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.christiemgeorge.com/"><em>The Emergency Was Curiosity</em></a> </p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://bookshop.org/a/111937/9781506488707"><em>The Mother Artist</em></a><em> </em>by Catherine Ricketts</p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://www.scrap-sf.org/">Scrap SF</a></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://ruthasawa.com/">Ruth Asawa</a></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://madmuseum.org/exhibition/designing-motherhood">Designing Motherhood</a> exhibit at the Museum of Art and Design</p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/we-live-for-the-we-the-political-power-of-black-motherhood-dani-mcclain/1f8082a355ceffef?ean=9781568588544&#38;next=t&#38;"><em>We Live For The We</em></a> by Dani McClain</p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://bookshop.org/a/111937/9781612198552"><em>How To Do Nothing</em></a> by Jenny Odell</p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/12/magazine/child-subjects-art-abuse-sally-mann-molly-jong-fast-ruby-franke.html">The Cost of Performing Childhood for Your Parent’s Art </a>by By Parul Sehgal (New York Times) </p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_2">motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe</a>