In this episode, I talk with legendary timpanist, educator, and musical pioneer Jonathan Haas. Jonathan’s journey weaves together St. Louis, Chicago, New York, Juilliard, Frank Zappa, Emerson Lake & Palmer, Philip Glass, and a powerful new project responding to the world we live in today.Jonathan tells the story of how a newspaper clipping from his mom led him to Washington University, where he studied with Rich O’Donnell, John Kasica, Tom Stubbs, and Rick Holmes—often taking four private lessons a week while subbing with the St. Louis Symphony.From there, he describes:Heading to Juilliard to study with Saul GoodmanSubbing with the New York PhilharmonicAuditioning for and touring with Emerson, Lake & Palmer (including opening Bolero in front of 50,000 people at Soldier Field!)A 20-year relationship and collaboration with Frank Zappa, sparked by a handwritten letterThe long road to commissioning the Philip Glass Double Timpani Concerto and why it had to become a double concertoHis work at NYU, including powerful new pieces by Lenny White and Tim Adams, connected to Black Lives Matter and the murder of George FloydJonathan is a phenomenal storyteller, and the combination of history, humor, honesty, and perspective makes this one of the most compelling conversations I’ve had.Thank you for listening. If you have questions, feedback, or ideas for the show, please email me at
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