<p>Honeybadger co-founders Ben Curtis and Joshua Wood discuss the origins and growth of their app monitoring product, challenges of bootstrapping, calm work environment, evolution of co-founder relationships, and buying out a departing co-founder.</p> <p><strong>Chapters</strong></p> <ul> <li>01:27 - Introduction of Honeybadger</li> <li>03:50 - The genesis of the company</li> <li>10:40 - The first customers</li> <li>12:26 - How much money do you need to feel like it&#39;s real?</li> <li>14:37 - Switching to the business full-time</li> <li>16:42 - Moving from unlimited to usage-based pricing</li> <li>21:14 - Stress about revenue</li> <li>23:40 - When do you start paying ourselves?</li> <li>26:29 - The evolution of founder relationships</li> <li>31:14 - Dealing with a co-founder departure</li> <li>34:49 - Is a calm company possible?</li> <li>36:30 - Who does what in the company</li> <li>41:25 - Advice for entrepreneurs</li> <li>42:12 - Where to find Ben and Joshua</li> </ul> <p><strong>Where to find the badgers</strong></p> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.honeybadger.io">Honeybadger</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.founderquestpodcast.com/">FounderQuest</a> podcast</li> <li>Ben: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/bencurtis.com">Bluesky</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/bencurtis">LinkedIn</a></li> <li>Joshua: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/joshuawood.honeybadger.io">Bluesky</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/heyjoshwood">LinkedIn</a></li> </ul> <p><strong>Links</strong> </p> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg">Honeybadger meme</a></li> </ul> <p><strong>Listen to this podcast on our app!</strong></p> <ul> <li>Metacast, a podcast app with transcripts: <a href="https://metacast.app">metacast.app</a></li> <li><a href="https://metacast.app/podcast/builders-gonna-build/GIQG0Xbz">Builders Gonna Build on Metacast</a></li> <li><a href="https://metacast.app/podcast/metacast-behind-the-scenes/N52SWYpt">Metacast: Behind the Scenes on Metacast</a></li> </ul> <p><strong>Get in touch!</strong></p> <ul> <li>Send us an email at <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ilyabezdelev/">Ilya&#39;s LinkedIn</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/or9ob/">Arnab&#39;s LinkedIn</a></li> </ul>