Builders Gonna Build
Builders Gonna Build

Builders Gonna Build

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Interviews with people who build awesome products. Hosted by Metacast co-founders Ilya Bezdelev and Arnab Deka.

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Moment: Ditching unlimited pricing for a B2B SaaS (ep. 9)
APR 14, 2025
Moment: Ditching unlimited pricing for a B2B SaaS (ep. 9)
<p>Co-founder of Honeybadger Ben Curtis talks about unlimited pricing, its deficiencies for a bootstrapped startup, and how they ditched unlimited all-you-can-eat buffet in favor of usage-based pricing.</p> <p>Full episode: <a href="https://metacast.app/podcast/builders-gonna-build/GIQG0Xbz/9-bootstrapping-a-saas-for-13-years-honeybadger-co-founders-ben-curtis-and-joshua-wood/SEi8zNTG?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=bgb_ep9_clip_unlimited_pricing">9. Bootstrapping a SaaS for 13 years | Honeybadger co-founders Ben Curtis and Joshua Wood</a></p> <p><strong>Where to find the badgers</strong></p> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.honeybadger.io/">Honeybadger</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.founderquestpodcast.com/">FounderQuest</a> podcast</li> <li>Ben: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/bencurtis.com">Bluesky</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/bencurtis">LinkedIn</a></li> <li>Joshua: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/joshuawood.honeybadger.io">Bluesky</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/heyjoshwood">LinkedIn</a></li> </ul> <p><strong>Listen to this podcast on our app!</strong></p> <ul> <li>Metacast, a podcast app with transcripts: <a href="https://metacast.app">metacast.app</a></li> <li><a href="https://metacast.app/podcast/builders-gonna-build/GIQG0Xbz">Builders Gonna Build on Metacast</a></li> <li><a href="https://metacast.app/podcast/metacast-behind-the-scenes/N52SWYpt">Metacast: Behind the Scenes on Metacast</a></li> </ul> <p><strong>Get in touch!</strong></p> <ul> <li>Send us an email at <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ilyabezdelev/">Ilya&#39;s LinkedIn</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/or9ob/">Arnab&#39;s LinkedIn</a></li> </ul>
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Moment: It took us two years before we switched to our business full-time with Honeybadger co-founder Ben Curtis (ep. 9)
MAR 25, 2025
Moment: It took us two years before we switched to our business full-time with Honeybadger co-founder Ben Curtis (ep. 9)
<p>Co-founder of Honeybadger Ben Curtis discusses freelancing before switching to work on the product full-time.</p> <p>Full episode: <a href="https://metacast.app/podcast/builders-gonna-build/GIQG0Xbz/9-bootstrapping-a-saas-for-13-years-honeybadger-co-founders-ben-curtis-and-joshua-wood/SEi8zNTG?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=bgb_ep9_clip_fulltime">9. Bootstrapping a SaaS for 13 years | Honeybadger co-founders Ben Curtis and Joshua Wood</a></p> <p><strong>Where to find the badgers</strong></p> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.honeybadger.io/">Honeybadger</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.founderquestpodcast.com/">FounderQuest</a> podcast</li> <li>Ben: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/bencurtis.com">Bluesky</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/bencurtis">LinkedIn</a></li> <li>Joshua: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/joshuawood.honeybadger.io">Bluesky</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/heyjoshwood">LinkedIn</a></li> </ul> <p><strong>Listen to this podcast on our app!</strong></p> <ul> <li>Metacast, a podcast app with transcripts: <a href="https://metacast.app">metacast.app</a></li> <li><a href="https://metacast.app/podcast/builders-gonna-build/GIQG0Xbz">Builders Gonna Build on Metacast</a></li> <li><a href="https://metacast.app/podcast/metacast-behind-the-scenes/N52SWYpt">Metacast: Behind the Scenes on Metacast</a></li> </ul> <p><strong>Get in touch!</strong></p> <ul> <li>Send us an email at <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ilyabezdelev/">Ilya&#39;s LinkedIn</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/or9ob/">Arnab&#39;s LinkedIn</a></li> </ul>
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Moment: How we got first customers for our SaaS with Honeybadger co-founders (ep. 9)
MAR 22, 2025
Moment: How we got first customers for our SaaS with Honeybadger co-founders (ep. 9)
<p>Ben Curtis and Joshua Wood discuss getting the very first customers and making first sales for their app and error monitoring SaaS <a href="https://www.honeybadger.io">Honeybadger</a>.</p> <p>Full episode: <a href="https://metacast.app/podcast/builders-gonna-build/GIQG0Xbz/9-bootstrapping-a-saas-for-13-years-honeybadger-co-founders-ben-curtis-and-joshua-wood/SEi8zNTG?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=bgb_ep9_clip_first_sales">9. Bootstrapping a SaaS for 13 years | Honeybadger co-founders Ben Curtis and Joshua Wood</a></p> <p><strong>Where to find the badgers</strong></p> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.honeybadger.io/">Honeybadger</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.founderquestpodcast.com/">FounderQuest</a> podcast</li> <li>Ben: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/bencurtis.com">Bluesky</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/bencurtis">LinkedIn</a></li> <li>Joshua: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/joshuawood.honeybadger.io">Bluesky</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/heyjoshwood">LinkedIn</a></li> </ul> <p><strong>Listen to this podcast on our app!</strong></p> <ul> <li>Metacast, a podcast app with transcripts: <a href="https://metacast.app">metacast.app</a></li> <li><a href="https://metacast.app/podcast/builders-gonna-build/GIQG0Xbz">Builders Gonna Build on Metacast</a></li> <li><a href="https://metacast.app/podcast/metacast-behind-the-scenes/N52SWYpt">Metacast: Behind the Scenes on Metacast</a></li> </ul> <p><strong>Get in touch!</strong></p> <ul> <li>Send us an email at <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ilyabezdelev/">Ilya&#39;s LinkedIn</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/or9ob/">Arnab&#39;s LinkedIn</a></li> </ul>
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2 MIN
9. Bootstrapping a SaaS for 13 years | Honeybadger co-founders Ben Curtis and Joshua Wood
MAR 19, 2025
9. Bootstrapping a SaaS for 13 years | Honeybadger co-founders Ben Curtis and Joshua Wood
<p>Honeybadger co-founders Ben Curtis and Joshua Wood discuss the origins and growth of their app monitoring product, challenges of bootstrapping, calm work environment, evolution of co-founder relationships, and buying out a departing co-founder.</p> <p><strong>Chapters</strong></p> <ul> <li>01:27 - Introduction of Honeybadger</li> <li>03:50 - The genesis of the company</li> <li>10:40 - The first customers</li> <li>12:26 - How much money do you need to feel like it&#39;s real?</li> <li>14:37 - Switching to the business full-time</li> <li>16:42 - Moving from unlimited to usage-based pricing</li> <li>21:14 - Stress about revenue</li> <li>23:40 - When do you start paying ourselves?</li> <li>26:29 - The evolution of founder relationships</li> <li>31:14 - Dealing with a co-founder departure</li> <li>34:49 - Is a calm company possible?</li> <li>36:30 - Who does what in the company</li> <li>41:25 - Advice for entrepreneurs</li> <li>42:12 - Where to find Ben and Joshua</li> </ul> <p><strong>Where to find the badgers</strong></p> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.honeybadger.io">Honeybadger</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.founderquestpodcast.com/">FounderQuest</a> podcast</li> <li>Ben: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/bencurtis.com">Bluesky</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/bencurtis">LinkedIn</a></li> <li>Joshua: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/joshuawood.honeybadger.io">Bluesky</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/heyjoshwood">LinkedIn</a></li> </ul> <p><strong>Links</strong> </p> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg">Honeybadger meme</a></li> </ul> <p><strong>Listen to this podcast on our app!</strong></p> <ul> <li>Metacast, a podcast app with transcripts: <a href="https://metacast.app">metacast.app</a></li> <li><a href="https://metacast.app/podcast/builders-gonna-build/GIQG0Xbz">Builders Gonna Build on Metacast</a></li> <li><a href="https://metacast.app/podcast/metacast-behind-the-scenes/N52SWYpt">Metacast: Behind the Scenes on Metacast</a></li> </ul> <p><strong>Get in touch!</strong></p> <ul> <li>Send us an email at <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ilyabezdelev/">Ilya&#39;s LinkedIn</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/or9ob/">Arnab&#39;s LinkedIn</a></li> </ul>
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43 MIN
8. Growing your LinkedIn and newsletter audience | John Crickett
MAY 9, 2024
8. Growing your LinkedIn and newsletter audience | John Crickett
<p>John Crickett is the creator of Coding Challenges, a newsletter for engineers that has over 54k subscribers. John’s LinkedIn profile grew from 3k to 150k+ followers in a year. In this episode, we dive into the process and mindset that allowed John’s following to grow so quickly.</p> <p><strong>Chapters</strong></p> <ul> <li>00:58 - Introduction</li> <li>03:18 - Spending a million Euros and a year on an MVP</li> <li>05:54 - Coding Challenges</li> <li>08:15 - MVP for an info product vs. software</li> <li>13:51 - Growth on LinkedIn</li> <li>17:32 - Post structure</li> <li>19:48 - Comments on posts</li> <li>21:48 - Twitter/X</li> <li>25:15 - Coding Challenges newsletter</li> <li>27:12 - Building a personal brand</li> <li>34:09 - Nicheing on LinkedIn</li> <li>41:50 - Selling B2B vs. B2C</li> <li>47:18 - Tangent on car salesmen</li> <li>50:13 - Book recommendations</li> </ul> <p><strong>Where to find John</strong></p> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/johncrickett/">John’s LinkedIn</a></li> <li><a href="https://codingchallenges.fyi/">Coding Challenges</a></li> <li><a href="https://codingchallenges.substack.com/">Coding Challenges newsletter</a></li> <li><a href="https://metacast.app/podcasts/cf1ae98a-5a00-5896-93af-e3e2b3874442">Coding Chats podcast</a></li> <li><a href="https://johncrickett.gumroad.com/l/30day-li-challenge">30 Day LinkedIn Personal Branding Challenge for Software Engineers</a> (starts on May 20, 2024!)</li> </ul> <p><strong>Links</strong> </p> <ul> <li><a href="https://adventofcode.com/">Advent of Code</a></li> <li><a href="https://carrd.co/">Carrd website builder</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.air.chat/">AirChat</a></li> </ul> <p><strong>Podcasts</strong></p> <ul> <li><a href="https://metacast.app/podcasts/4fe69a3b-88d1-5e22-8fe4-bba096831944">My First Million</a> (<a href="https://metacast.app/podcasts/episode/4fe69a3b_88d1_5e22_8fe4_bba096831944_00d3f378_d1bc_11ee_a768_3f32da5b55c1">Jason Cohen episode</a>)</li> </ul> <p><strong>Books</strong></p> <ul> <li><a href="https://amzn.to/44wFDQZ">Stop Asking Questions</a> by Andrew Warner</li> <li><a href="https://amzn.to/44BJFaU">Hatching Twitter</a> by Nick Bilton</li> </ul> <p><strong>Listen to this podcast on our app!</strong></p> <ul> <li>Metacast, a podcast app with transcripts: <a href="https://metacast.app">metacast.app</a></li> <li><a href="https://metacast.app/podcast/builders-gonna-build/GIQG0Xbz">Builders Gonna Build on Metacast</a></li> <li><a href="https://metacast.app/podcast/metacast-behind-the-scenes/N52SWYpt">Metacast: Behind the Scenes on Metacast</a></li> </ul> <p><strong>Get in touch!</strong></p> <ul> <li>Send us an email at <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ilyabezdelev/">Ilya&#39;s LinkedIn</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/or9ob/">Arnab&#39;s LinkedIn</a></li> </ul>
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53 MIN