<description>&lt;p&gt;HR Heretics welcomes back guest Brett Queener, Managing Director at Bonfire Ventures, for a check in on the current venture landscape.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Fresh from raising a $245 million fund, Queener explores how AI is fundamentally changing software companies, emphasizing the need for rapid iteration and questioning traditional playbooks. He shares thoughtful perspectives on evaluating AI startups beyond the hype, the changing nature of talent requirements, and why successful companies must embrace a "change economy" mentality to thrive.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;*Email us your questions or topics for Kelli &amp; Nolan: hrheretics@turpentine.co&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;For coaching and advising inquire at &lt;a target="_blank" href="https://kellidragovich.com/"&gt;https://kellidragovich.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;HR Heretics is a podcast from &lt;a target="_blank" href="https://www.turpentine.co/"&gt;Turpentine.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Support HR Heretics Sponsors:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Planful&lt;/strong&gt; empowers teams just like yours to unlock the secrets of successful workforce planning. Use data-driven insights to develop accurate forecasts, close hiring gaps, and adjust talent acquisition plans collaboratively based on costs today and into the future. ✍️ Go to &lt;a target="_blank" href="https://planful.com/heretics"&gt;https://planful.com/heretics&lt;/a&gt; to see how you can transform your HR strategy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Metaview&lt;/strong&gt; is the AI assistant for interviewing. Metaview completely removes the need for recruiters and hiring managers to take notes during interviews—because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. Team builders at companies like Brex, Hellofresh, and Quora say Metaview has changed the game—see the magic for yourself: &lt;a target="_blank" href="https://www.metaview.ai/heretics"&gt;https://www.metaview.ai/heretics&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;KEEP UP WITH BRETT, NOLAN + KELLI ON LINKEDIN&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Brett: &lt;a target="_blank" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brettqueener/"&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/brettqueener/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Nolan: &lt;a target="_blank" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nolan-church/"&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/nolan-church/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Kelli: &lt;a target="_blank" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellidragovich/"&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellidragovich/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;—&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;LINKS:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Bonfire Ventures: &lt;a target="_blank" href="https://www.bonfirevc.com/"&gt;https://www.bonfirevc.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;—&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;OTHER RECOMMENDED LINKS:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Change Economy: &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;—&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;TIMESTAMPS:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(00:00) Intro &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(01:07) Bonfire's $245M New Fund &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(03:24) Today's Frothy AI Market &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(06:30) The 11X AI SDR Case Study &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(08:18) AI's Revolutionary Impact on Products &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(11:12) First-Time vs. Repeat Founders in AI &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(14:39) Sponsors: Planful | Metaview&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(17:38) Rethinking How Companies Operate &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(19:43) Hiring in the AI Era &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(22:58) Teams Getting Younger and AI Native &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(25:04) The Future of Junior Roles &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(28:22) The 11X Controversy Explained &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(30:29) Evaluating What's Real in AI Companies &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(33:29) Vibey Revenue and Real Value &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(37:00) Product Viability and Renewals &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(39:42) Assessing Founders and Products &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(42:10) The Case for In-Office Collaboration &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(44:31) The "Holy S**t" Product Moment &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(46:09) Wrap&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit &lt;a href="https://hrheretics.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&amp;#38;utm_campaign=CTA_1"&gt;hrheretics.substack.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>

“HR Heretics” | How CPOs, CHROs, Founders, and Boards Build High Performing Companies

HR Heretics

VC Brett Queener Unpacks AI-Native Startups and the End of Grunt Work

APR 10, 202546 MIN
“HR Heretics” | How CPOs, CHROs, Founders, and Boards Build High Performing Companies

VC Brett Queener Unpacks AI-Native Startups and the End of Grunt Work

APR 10, 202546 MIN

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<p>HR Heretics welcomes back guest Brett Queener, Managing Director at Bonfire Ventures, for a check in on the current venture landscape.</p><p>Fresh from raising a $245 million fund, Queener explores how AI is fundamentally changing software companies, emphasizing the need for rapid iteration and questioning traditional playbooks. He shares thoughtful perspectives on evaluating AI startups beyond the hype, the changing nature of talent requirements, and why successful companies must embrace a "change economy" mentality to thrive.</p><p>*Email us your questions or topics for Kelli & Nolan: [email protected]</p><p>For coaching and advising inquire at <a target="_blank" href="https://kellidragovich.com/">https://kellidragovich.com/</a></p><p>HR Heretics is a podcast from <a target="_blank" href="https://www.turpentine.co/">Turpentine.</a></p><p>Support HR Heretics Sponsors:</p><p><strong>Planful</strong> empowers teams just like yours to unlock the secrets of successful workforce planning. Use data-driven insights to develop accurate forecasts, close hiring gaps, and adjust talent acquisition plans collaboratively based on costs today and into the future. ✍️ Go to <a target="_blank" href="https://planful.com/heretics">https://planful.com/heretics</a> to see how you can transform your HR strategy.</p><p><strong>Metaview</strong> is the AI assistant for interviewing. Metaview completely removes the need for recruiters and hiring managers to take notes during interviews—because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. Team builders at companies like Brex, Hellofresh, and Quora say Metaview has changed the game—see the magic for yourself: <a target="_blank" href="https://www.metaview.ai/heretics">https://www.metaview.ai/heretics</a></p><p>KEEP UP WITH BRETT, NOLAN + KELLI ON LINKEDIN</p><p>Brett: <a target="_blank" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brettqueener/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brettqueener/</a></p><p>Nolan: <a target="_blank" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nolan-church/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nolan-church/</a></p><p>Kelli: <a target="_blank" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellidragovich/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellidragovich/</a></p><p>—</p><p>LINKS:</p><p>Bonfire Ventures: <a target="_blank" href="https://www.bonfirevc.com/">https://www.bonfirevc.com/</a></p><p>—</p><p>OTHER RECOMMENDED LINKS:</p><p>The Change Economy: </p><p>—</p><p>TIMESTAMPS:</p><p>(00:00) Intro </p><p>(01:07) Bonfire's $245M New Fund </p><p>(03:24) Today's Frothy AI Market </p><p>(06:30) The 11X AI SDR Case Study </p><p>(08:18) AI's Revolutionary Impact on Products </p><p>(11:12) First-Time vs. Repeat Founders in AI </p><p>(14:39) Sponsors: Planful | Metaview</p><p>(17:38) Rethinking How Companies Operate </p><p>(19:43) Hiring in the AI Era </p><p>(22:58) Teams Getting Younger and AI Native </p><p>(25:04) The Future of Junior Roles </p><p>(28:22) The 11X Controversy Explained </p><p>(30:29) Evaluating What's Real in AI Companies </p><p>(33:29) Vibey Revenue and Real Value </p><p>(37:00) Product Viability and Renewals </p><p>(39:42) Assessing Founders and Products </p><p>(42:10) The Case for In-Office Collaboration </p><p>(44:31) The "Holy S**t" Product Moment </p><p>(46:09) Wrap</p><p></p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://hrheretics.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_1">hrheretics.substack.com</a>