<p>We've been hearing a lot about resilience lately. Some say it's important while others say no thanks-they'd rather not have to be so resilient. Rowan and Devin get into how they feel about it. They talk about challenges, getting stronger, and how recovery is essential to it.</p> <p>Devin discusses the courage and persistence of the trans community and "the pain of resistance versus the gain of resilience."</p> <p>They both talk about the holidays, chosen family, asking ourselves what we really want and cookies!</p> <p>Rowan and Devin wish you a happy holiday and Devin says to remember, "There's a lot about you that's worth celebrating."</p> <p>Also, Rowan wants to add that she mentions a book called "Choose Strong" but she has changed the title to "Nice Shmice." She will share more details next episode.</p> <p dir="ltr"> </p> <p dir="ltr">The transman and his Queen is a listener supported podcast. To support our work please consider signing up for <a href= "https://patreon.com/TheTransmanandHisQueen?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink">Patreon here</a>, or buy some fab <a href= "https://www.bonfire.com/store/rowan--devin/?utm_source=copy_link&utm_medium=store_page_share&utm_campaign=rowan--devin&utm_content=default"> merch here</a></p> <p dir="ltr">Also - you can support our work with "Buy us a Coffee" <a href= "https://buymeacoffee.com/RowanandDevin">here</a>. We work well on coffee ;) THANK YOU!</p> <p dir="ltr">Devin's <a href= "https://www.tiktok.com/@devindelani">TikTok</a></p> <p>Rowan's <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@heyrowanb" target= "_blank" rel="noopener">TikTok</a> </p> <p>Send comments and questions to us on our <a href= "https://www.rowananddevin.com/">website</a></p> <p dir="ltr"><a href= "https://www.rowananddevin.com/">RowanandDevin.com</a></p> <p>Thanks for Listening!</p> <p>Podcast created and produced by Rowan Brunet and Rovin Media</p>