<description>&lt;div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW29552423 BCX0"&gt; &lt;p class="Paragraph SCXW29552423 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"&gt;&lt;span class="TextRun SCXW29552423 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="auto"&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29552423 BCX0"&gt;When &lt;a href= "https://www.mattfogelson.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Matt Fogelson's&lt;/a&gt; father died of lung cancer during his senior year of college, he turned to music to express what words &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29552423 BCX0"&gt;couldn't&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29552423 BCX0"&gt; - rage, self-loathing, and grief so profound he &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29552423 BCX0"&gt;didn't&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29552423 BCX0"&gt; know where to put it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="EOP SCXW29552423 BCX0" data-ccp-props="{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335551550":0,"335551620":0,"335559738":240,"335559739":240}"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW29552423 BCX0"&gt; &lt;p class="Paragraph SCXW29552423 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"&gt;&lt;span class="NormalTextRun SCXW29552423 BCX0"&gt;In this conversation, Matt - author of the new memoir &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29552423 BCX0"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.mattfogelson.com/memoir" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Restrung&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class= "TextRun SCXW29552423 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="auto"&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29552423 BCX0"&gt;talks about the silence that surrounded his father's terminal illness, the vacuum left by an absent but beloved parent, and how grunge music (especially Soundgarden and Pearl Jam) created space for him to feel &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="NormalTextRun SCXW29552423 BCX0"&gt;what was hard to put into words&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29552423 BCX0"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class= "EOP SCXW29552423 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335551550":0,"335551620":0,"335559738":240,"335559739":240}"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW29552423 BCX0"&gt; &lt;p class="Paragraph SCXW29552423 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"&gt;&lt;span class="TextRun SCXW29552423 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="auto"&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29552423 BCX0"&gt;Matt shares how his Aunt Wendy became his unlikely guide, why he wore his father's suits to work for years trying to feel close to him, and the breakthrough moment when Pearl Jam's "Release" helped him &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29552423 BCX0"&gt;shift his relationship with his father's memory and his grief.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class= "EOP SCXW29552423 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335551550":0,"335551620":0,"335559738":240,"335559739":240}"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW29552423 BCX0"&gt; &lt;p class="Paragraph SCXW29552423 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"&gt;&lt;span class="TextRun SCXW29552423 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="auto"&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29552423 BCX0"&gt;We also discuss h&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="NormalTextRun SCXW29552423 BCX0"&gt;ow grief shaped his approach to parenting, why he sang a Grateful Dead song to his son every night for 14 years, and the three songs he wishes he could share with his father now.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class= "EOP SCXW29552423 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335551550":0,"335551620":0,"335559738":240,"335559739":240}"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW29552423 BCX0"&gt; &lt;p class="Paragraph SCXW29552423 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29552423 BCX0"&gt;Resources&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li class="Paragraph SCXW29552423 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"&gt;&lt;span class="NormalTextRun SCXW29552423 BCX0"&gt;Matt's memoir&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href="https://www.mattfogelson.com/memoir" target= "_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29552423 BCX0"&gt;Restrung&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29552423 BCX0"&gt; (released February 3, 2026)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="EOP SCXW29552423 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335551550":0,"335551620":0,"335559738":0,"335559739":0}"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li class="Paragraph SCXW29552423 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"&gt;&lt;span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW29552423 BCX0"&gt;Matt's &lt;a href= "https://mattfogelson.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;Substack&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href= "https://www.mattfogelson.com/blog" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;music blog&lt;/a&gt; (Fine Tuning)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class= "EOP SCXW29552423 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335551550":0,"335551620":0,"335559738":0,"335559739":0}"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li class="Paragraph SCXW29552423 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"&gt;&lt;span class="NormalTextRun SCXW29552423 BCX0"&gt;More at &lt;a href="https://www.dougy.org/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;dougy.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.dougy.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;&lt;span class="EOP SCXW29552423 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"335551550":0,"335551620":0,"335559738":0,"335559739":0}"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW29552423 BCX0"&gt; &lt;p class="Paragraph SCXW29552423 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"&gt;&lt;span class="NormalTextRun SCXW29552423 BCX0"&gt;Grief Out Loud&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="NormalTextRun SCXW29552423 BCX0"&gt;is a production of Dougy Center, the National Grief Center for Children and Families. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>

Grief Out Loud

The Dougy Center

Restrung: Music, Grief, And Fatherhood With Matt Fogelson

FEB 13, 202643 MIN
Grief Out Loud

Restrung: Music, Grief, And Fatherhood With Matt Fogelson

FEB 13, 202643 MIN

Description

When Matt Fogelson's father died of lung cancer during his senior year of college, he turned to music to express what words couldn't - rage, self-loathing, and grief so profound he didn't know where to put it. In this conversation, Matt - author of the new memoir Restrung - talks about the silence that surrounded his father's terminal illness, the vacuum left by an absent but beloved parent, and how grunge music (especially Soundgarden and Pearl Jam) created space for him to feel what was hard to put into words. Matt shares how his Aunt Wendy became his unlikely guide, why he wore his father's suits to work for years trying to feel close to him, and the breakthrough moment when Pearl Jam's "Release" helped him shift his relationship with his father's memory and his grief. We also discuss how grief shaped his approach to parenting, why he sang a Grateful Dead song to his son every night for 14 years, and the three songs he wishes he could share with his father now. Resources Matt's memoir Restrung (released February 3, 2026) Matt's Substack and music blog (Fine Tuning) More at dougy.org Grief Out Loud is a production of Dougy Center, the National Grief Center for Children and Families.