EPISODE SUMMARY The money beliefs holding you back aren't just yours. They were handed to you by your culture, your religion, your family, and maybe even your country. In this special episode of the Money Healing Club podcast, Rachel Duncan(financial therapist and art therapist) sits down with Ali, a guest joining from Pakistan. This isn't a traditional guest interview. It's a raw, minimally edited, live financial therapy coaching session recorded with Ali's full permission. You'll hear the pauses, the processing, the emotion, and the complexity as it all unfolds in real time. This episode gets into the push-pull with money rooted in scarcity, culture, and what happens when being visible and successful carries real risk. "It's more like an energy that I am attracting as well as resisting and pushing away. That push-pull, I feel it's because of the childhood learnings that were taken from my caretakers and the surroundings and the beliefs that I made around them." — Ali Key Takeaways: Scarcity mindset often gets installed through small everyday moments, not just big financial events The gap between outer presentation and inner reality is a money pattern, not just a cultural one Abandoning projects right at the moment of praise is a real pattern, and it has roots Breaking with tradition to grow a business isn't just hard. Sometimes it can be dangerous. You don't have to be the head goose all the time. Learning your rhythm is part of money healing   About Ali: Ali is based in Pakistan, where he runs his family's plastic packaging manufacturing business. He's also an emotional intelligence coach, NLP practitioner, and youth counselor on his own six-year healing journey. His identity is kept anonymous for safety, but his willingness to share openly makes this one of the most generous conversations we've had on this show. Rachel is actively looking to connect Ali with resources in sustainable manufacturing and executive leadership communities in Southeast Asia. If that's you, reach out at [email protected].   ⏰ EPISODE BREAKDOWN 00:00 | A Different Kind of Episode Rachel sets the scene: this is a real, live coaching session, not a polished expert interview. Trigger warning included for content touching on religion, politics, gender, and the very real risks of breaking from tradition in Pakistan. 04:30 | Meet Ali: The Push-Pull With Money Ali introduces himself and describes the tension at the core of his money story: feeling simultaneously that wealth belongs to him AND that he doesn't deserve it. His nervous system proves it in real time. 13:00 | The Toblerone Memory One chocolate bar. Thirteen family members. A knife. This early childhood scarcity memory unpacks into a whole conversation about how our first experiences with "not enough" get wired into how we relate to money as adults. 40:00 | The Evil Eye, Visibility, and Business A rich exploration of the cultural concept of Nazar (the evil eye): where it came from, what it was meant to protect, and how it quietly shuts down sharing success, celebrating wins, and being seen in business.   💬 Join the Conversation This episode brought up a LOT. We want to hear from you: what cultural belief about money did you grow up with that you're still untangling today? Click the big orange button on our site right from your phone or browser and leave us a voice message: https://www.moneyhealingclub.com/podcast 💝 Support the Podcast Help keep the Money Healing Club podcast going! If this show has helped you feel less alone or more grounded with money, please consider contributing: 👉 https://www.moneyhealingclub.com/podcast 🎧 Your next listen: Dig into the archive for more episodes on money, the nervous system, and emotional healing at moneyhealingclub.com/podcast  💫 Visit the Money Healing Club website to start your money healing process! https://www.moneyhealingclub.com Full transcript: https://www.moneyhealingclub.com/podcast 🎙️We're a proud member of the Feminist Podcasters Collective where creators like me are uplifting diverse voices and driving meaningful change.