In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Mary Alice Stephens about her journey from high-functioning alcoholic housewife to sobriety and self-acceptance. Based in Marin County, California, Mary Alice Stephens shares candid reflections on growing up in a family with a deep culture of drinking, how alcohol shaped her adult social and professional life, and the pivotal moment that led to quitting for good. This conversation is packed with insights for anyone sober-curious, struggling with social anxiety, or navigating recovery—highlighting the emotional transformation and lasting inner peace Mary Alice discovered on the other side of addiction.Mary Alice Stephens is a creative nonfiction storyteller. A former television writer-producer for HGTV, Food Network, and other media outlets, Mary shares her powerful story of alcoholism, recovery, and starting life anew at 45 in her debut book, Uncorked: A Memoir of Letting Go and Starting Over, which was an Amazon #1 new release in both alcoholism recovery and midlife self-help. She earned her Master of Fine Arts in creative writing from Dominican University of California and lives in Northern California.Main Topics Covered:Family dynamics and the impact of generational drinking culture on identity.The connection between alcohol use and social anxiety, especially in adolescent and young adult years.Why high-functioning alcoholism often goes unseen and unaddressed.The emotional patterns underlying compulsive drinking and attempts to “fit in.”How motherhood, social circles, “wine o’clock” culture, and marketing influence women’s relationship with alcohol.The myth of needing alcohol for fun, relaxation, and connection.Breaking through denial: recognizing the “noise” and compulsion around drinking.Mary Alice’s turning point—her emotional “bottom” moment—and the first steps she took towards sobriety.The role of AA, supportive friendships, and the shift to genuine self-acceptance.What life after drinking really looks like: socializing, cravings, and building authentic peace.Quote from the Episode: "It was the first time that I thought quitting would bring relief." — Mary Alice StephensTimestamps: [00:00:05] Welcome and intro; Mary Alice’s Marin County roots[00:00:55] Mary Alice’s approach to planning and organization; past career as a producer[00:01:29] The fabric of family drinking—Irish Catholic traditions and first encounters with alcohol[00:03:54] Family sobriety “lore,” exposure to addiction, and role models[00:05:06] Alcohol as a social coping strategy—high school, college, TV & advertising industry culture[00:07:21] Early awareness of problem drinking; risky behavior and denial[00:08:26] Serious consequences: breaking her back while drinking abroad, denial, and hiding issues[00:09:35] The “happy drunk” vs. other archetypes, and why her habits flew under the radar[00:11:28] Drinking as self-medication—connection, anxiety reduction, grief, loneliness[00:13:24] Childhood social anxiety, disconnection, and perceptions of ease in others[00:16:37] Facing what quitting means—social isolation, mom groups, and the grip of habit[00:21:18] Emotional bottom: blackout in front of kids and the decision to quit[00:23:53] Turning to AA and finding help through community[00:25:00] Understanding alcoholism as compulsion and internal noise[00:27:16] Double standards and gender roles—women, moms, and the marketing of alcohol[00:30:19] The real first step towards sober living[00:32:23] Relief and internal transformation—moving away from shame, anxiety, and mom judgment[00:33:31] Life after alcohol—socializing, cravings, what changes[00:34:46] Favorite sober beverages and handling social situations[00:36:46] Comparing 2010 drinking days to life now—contentment and inner peace[00:38:25] Mary Alice’s book, memoir details, and listener special offer[00:39:25] Fun lightning round—potluck dish, favorite books, self-care splurges, and final goodbyesFree copy of the book to the first person who messages Mary at her instagram account. @maryalicestephenswritesABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. 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