In this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Kimberly Brown about navigating major career transitions, the search for authentic self-fulfillment, and the power of mindfulness and meditation in overcoming anxiety. Joining Amy from New York City, Kimberly opens up about leaving behind years of psychoanalytic training in favor of a path rooted in Buddhist-inspired meditation. Listeners will learn how Kimberly’s journey through personal anxiety and professional “wrong turns” led her to a sense of belonging, self-compassion, and a thriving vocation as a meditation teacher.Kimberly Brown is a meditation teacher and author. She leads classes and retreats that emphasize the power of compassion and kindness meditation to reconnect us to ourselves and others. She studies in both the Tibetan and Insight schools of Buddhism and is a certified mindfulness instructor. Her latest book, Happy Relationships: 25 Buddhist Practices to Transform Your Connection with Your Partner, Family, and Friends, was recently released by Rowman & Littlefield. You can learn more about Kimberly at www.meditationwithheart.comMain Topics Covered:Coping with the pressure and expectations to “get it right” in career and education choices.The impact of post-9/11 life changes and the urgent drive for deeper meaning.Why traditional psychoanalysis and diagnostic labels didn’t resonate—and how compassion shifted her approach.Transforming painful anxiety and panic attacks into motivation for personal growth.The science and practice of mindfulness and meditation, including Buddhist perspectives.How belonging and acceptance—both internally and within a community—can heal and empower.Overcoming the belief that something is “wrong” with you and embracing inherent goodness.Building a business and life around self-compassion, meditation, and helping others connect authentically.Quote from the Episode: "I began to feel that there was nothing wrong with anybody. And I don't... that doesn't mean we all have troubles. I just never felt like, well, anybody's really broken, right? We just have our stuff and we have to, you know, take care of it and understand it." — Kimberly BrownTimestamps: [00:00:04] Introduction & warm-up: New York roots, upstate escapes, and favorite flowers[00:02:34] Career change: From HR and psychoanalytic training to questioning the diagnostic process[00:09:02] 9/11 as a catalyst for dramatic life transitions[00:12:07] The essential role of a healing therapist and the inspiration to help others[00:13:31] The drive to return to school, lifelong learning, and giving oneself grace in change[00:17:27] Discomfort with diagnosing mental health, and the story of an authentic therapeutic relationship[00:21:19] Discussion of Freud, medical coding, and the industrial complex of American healthcare[00:26:56] Struggles with professional modality and the need for real human connection[00:30:49] Personal challenges: panic attacks, anxiety, and unexpected traumas[00:34:01] Discovering meditation and mindfulness through yoga and Buddhist centers[00:37:27] Building a new path—belonging, retreats, teaching, and gratitude for healing[00:41:12] The power of acceptance, belonging, and Buddhist teachings in everyday life[00:45:41] Science catches up: neuroscience validates the benefits of meditation and compassion[00:46:39] Inherent capacity for compassion and re-framing cultural narratives around brokennessABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. 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