Guest: Jeff Brown. What does it truly mean to see a child — not just their behaviour, but the brain and experiences underneath it? In this episode of The Neurodiversity Voices Podcast, host Paul Cruz is joined by educator and author Jeff Brown, a high school teacher with over 25 years of experience and lived experience as an autistic and ADHD adult. Together, they explore how slowing down our perception can transform classrooms, homes, and lives. Jeff shares why behaviour is so often misunderstood, how neurodivergent students are mislabeled as "lazy" or "defiant," and what becomes possible when adults choose curiosity over judgment. From sensory overload and rejection sensitivity to discipline systems and long-term self-worth, this conversation reframes advocacy as something that begins with how we see people — long before paperwork or policy. This episode is especially meaningful for: Neurodivergent youth who've felt misunderstood Parents and caregivers seeking a more compassionate lens Educators looking to build inclusive, supportive classrooms When people feel seen, they feel safer. And when they feel safe, they can grow. Purchase the book mentioned in this episode through Amazon, "Seeing People: What Every Parent, Teacher, Therapist, Manager, and Person Needs to See About Everyone As Taught by an Autistic ADHD Teacher" - Author Jeff Brown. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. If you choose to buy through our affiliation links, we may earn a small commission at no extra cost to you. Thank you for supporting the podcast! For Amazon US and International Buyers (except Canada) 1. Seeing People: What Every Parent, Teacher, Therapist, Manager, and Person Needs to See About Everyone as Taught by an Autistic ADHD Teacher - https://amzn.to/3MDRfwG For Amazon Canada Buyers: 1. Seeing People: What Every Parent, Teacher, Therapist, Manager, and Person Needs to See About Everyone as Taught by an Autistic ADHD Teacher - https://amzn.to/48Spgk9 Website: https://www.jeffbrownsclassroom.com/books/seeing-people Connect With Us Learn more about the Neurodiversity Voices Podcast: www.neurodiversityvoices.com Grab your The Neurodiversity Voices Podcast Merch Catalogue Items from our Storehttps://www.neurodiversityvoices.com/category/all-products The Neurodiversity Voices Podcast would love your feedback. Post a review to our Google profile. https://share.google/9RAoxcWhwXu5Pl1xY Support by joining our Patreon Community: https://www.patreon.com/14218572/join Be A Neurodiversity Voices+ Subscriber https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-neurodiversity-voices-podcast-adhd-autism-audhd/id1806028241 If you're listening on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or any podcast player you love, please take a moment to rate the show and leave a comment. It makes a huge difference! ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★