<p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);"> I sat down with Dario Amodei in Bangalore. He built Claude, but he started as a biologist looking for a tool to cure disease. Today, he's at the helm of an AI revolution that he compares to a tsunami society is actively ignoring. We got into the heavy stuff: why Anthropic secretly withheld a working model before ChatGPT existed, whether AI is on the verge of consciousness, and if outsourcing our thinking is going to make humans measurably stupider. Dario makes the case that coding is a dying skill, critical thinking is our last real edge, and the absurd concentration of power in AI right now is a massive problem—even though he’s one of the people holding it.</span></p><p><br></p><p>#nikhilkamath Co founder of Zerodha and Gruhas</p><p>Host of “WTF is” and “People By WTF” Podcast</p><ul><li>Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>#Darioamodei</p><ul><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dario-amodei/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/dario-amodei/</a></li><li>X: <a href="https://x.com/DarioAmodei" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/DarioAmodei</a></li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/dario.amodei/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/dario.amodei/</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Watch “WTF is” Podcast on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch “People By WTF” Podcast on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch “WTF Online” on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a></p><p><br></p><p>#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline #claude #claudeindia #podcast #anthropic #anthropicclaude #anthropicai #ai #aivideo #claude</p><p><br></p><p><strong style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Timestamps:</strong></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">00:00 Introduction</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">06:13 Scaling laws explained simply</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">13:27 Trust, humility, and corporate motives</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">22:44 Using Claude personally, AI knowing you</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">31:03 Rich people criticizing their own system</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">37:05 India's role and IT partnerships</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">44:15 Will AI surpass humans at everything</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">50:17 Career advice for young Indians</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">56:38 Open source vs closed AI models</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">1:02:40 Biotech as the next big bet</span></p>