Episode 8: From Savings to Surveillance: How Trust Was Weaponized Explicit: No Summary December 1930. The Bronx. Thousands of people stand outside the collapsed Bank of United States, their life savings vanished overnight. But a few blocks north at the post office, there's a different kind of line: quiet, orderly people depositing what's left into the Postal Savings System, backed by the federal government and guaranteed not to disappear. Between 1930 and 1933, as 9,000 banks failed, deposits in postal savings exploded from $175 million to over $1.2 billion, proving public banking works when private banking destroys everything. But fifty-five years later, the banking industry killed it and erased it from history so completely that most Americans have never heard of it. In Episode 8, Aileen and Maia trace three decades where the Post Office was simultaneously a refuge and a weapon. FDR's New Deal built 361 beautiful post offices with WPA murals while using those jobs as political patronage. WWII brought V-Mail innovation and the 6888th Battalion, 855 Black women who cleared 17 million pieces of backlogged mail in three months while fighting segregation. Then the Cold War turned that trusted institution into surveillance: FBI loyalty investigations purged 2,700 federal workers and forced 12,000 more to resign, targeting civil rights activists like NAACP leaders and destroying 5,000-10,000 queer federal employees during the "Lavender Scare." The same Post Office that saved people during the Depression investigated, surveilled, and fired them twenty years later for being Black and demanding equality, for being gay, for organizing unions. This episode reveals why institutions aren't inherently good or evil, they're contested spaces that serve whoever has the power to control them. Key takeaways to listen for [00:00:00] Introduction [00:04:40] Act I - The Great Depression: When Mail Wasn't Enough: How the Postal Savings System proved public banking works for 55 years, why immigrants held 75% of deposits despite being 15% of the population, and how FDR chose to save private banking with FDIC insurance rather than expand the public alternative that had just rescued millions [00:23:51] Act II - World War II: The Mail Must Go Through: V-Mail's 98% cargo space reduction that saved room for 2.3 million field rations, the 6888th Battalion of 855 Black women who cleared 17 million pieces in 3 months after white male officers failed, and Major Charity Adams telling a general "over my dead body" when he threatened to replace her with a white officer [00:36:39] Act III - The Cold War: When Loyalty Mattered More Than Mail: How Truman's 1947 Executive Order screened 5 million federal workers and dismissed 2,700 for "disloyalty," why Black postal workers advocating for civil rights were fired as "communist agitators," and how 5,000-10,000 queer federal employees lost everything during the Lavender Scare [00:58:40] Act IV - Contested Spaces: Who Does an Institution Serve?: Why the same institution that saved millions in 1933 destroyed careers in 1953, how the erasure of postal banking history prevents us from proposing it today, and why understanding institutions as tools (not heroes or villains) is essential for reform Follow Us On Social Media Instagram @Peopleof_Agency TikTok @Peopleof_Agency YouTube @Peopleof_Agency   Connect with Us Ready to explore how ordinary people built extraordinary public institutions? Subscribe to People of Agency wherever you listen to podcasts. Find us on social media @Peopleof_Agency. Have stories about how the mail shaped your community, or thoughts on protecting public services? We'd love to hear from you! [email protected] Quotes: "If this history were widely known, every time someone proposes postal banking today, the response couldn't be 'that's a crazy socialist idea.' It would have to be 'we already did this for fifty-five years and it worked.'" - Aileen "Private industry fails catastrophically, and then blames public institutions for stepping in to clean up the mess. And then, once the crisis passes, they lobby to dismantle the very thing that saved everyone." - Aileen "While banks were failing all over the country, it was the Postal Savings System that salvaged much of the money withdrawn by the frightened and the timid." - Congressman Emanuel Celler (quoted by Maia) "We had to fight the war on three fronts: first we had to fight segregation, second was the war, and third were the men." - Anna Tarryk of the 6888th (quoted by Maia) "Over my dead body, Sir." - Major Charity Adams (quoted by Aileen) "The same institution that saved you in 1933 destroyed you in 1953. Both things are true. And that's what we mean by contested spaces." - Maia Hashtags #PeopleOfAgency #AileenDay #MaiaWarner #PostalSavings #GreatDepression #NewDeal #FDR #6888th #CharityAdams #VMail #WWII #ColdWar #RedScare #LavenderScare #McCarthyism #LoyaltyInvestigations #CivilRights #NAACP #QueerHistory #PublicBanking #WPA #PostOffice #USPSHistory #ContestedSpaces #InstitutionalHistory #FederalEmployees #UnionOrganizing #HistoryPodcast Credits  People of Agency is created and written by Aileen Day, with additional writing by Maia Warner-Langenbahn. It is hosted by Aileen Day and Maia Warner-Langenbahn. This episode was edited by the amazing Kelsi Rupersburg-Day. Our beautiful cover art is by Sam Woodring.  Sources Here are some of our other sources (use the tab function to review different episodes). How the Post Office Created America, by Winifred Gallagher, served as a significant guiding light for this project. Many of our sources were pulled from online Smithsonian resources and the Smithsonian National Postal Museum. Thank you to our anonymous Historian fact checker who reviewed many of our scripts and provided invaluable feedback.