<p>This Week In Startups is made possible by:</p><p><br></p><p>Wispr Flow - https://<a href="https://wisprflow.ai/twist"><u>wisprflow.ai/twist</u></a></p><p>Circle -<a href="http://circle.so/twist"> <u>http://circle.so/twist</u></a></p><p>Deel -<a href="http://circle.so/twist"> <u>http://</u></a><a href="http://deel.com/twist"><u>deel.com/twist</u></a></p><p><br></p><p>Today’s show:</p><p><br></p><p>AstroForge is building low-cost, replicable spacecraft to mine platinum group metals from near-Earth asteroids — a $60 billion annual market for materials that are running out on Earth. Founder and CEO Matt Gialich joins the show to talk about the company&#39;s ambitious mission, what went wrong on their first two flights, and why Mission 3 could still change everything.</p><p>PLUS Sam Dare from Templar stops by to talk about training AI models on a decentralized blockchain, and why it’s so much cheaper and more efficient than the conventional “data center full of GPUs” method. AND a demo of OpenOats from creator Yazin Alirhayim of his open source Granola alternative.</p><p>Astroforge:<a href="https://www.astroforge.com/"> <u>https://www.astroforge.com/</u></a></p><p>Templar:<a href="https://www.tplr.ai/"> <u>https://www.tplr.ai/</u></a></p><p>Epoch AI decentralized training post:<a href="https://epoch.ai/gradient-updates/how-far-can-decentralized-training-over-the-internet-scale"> <u>https://epoch.ai/gradient-updates/how-far-can-decentralized-training-over-the-internet-scale</u></a></p><p>OpenOats on Github:<a href="https://github.com/yazinsai/OpenOats"> <u>https://github.com/yazinsai/OpenOats</u></a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Timestamps:</strong></p><p>0:00 Intro</p><p>0:59 Plaud: If your work depends on conversations — interviews, meetings, calls — you need a Plaud NotePin. You can check it out at https://Plaud.ai/twist and use code TWIST for 10% off!</p><p>3:05 We aplaud Plaud!</p><p>3:18 Astroforge is mining… asteroids?!</p><p>6:11 How creating an abundance of Platinum will impact Humanity!</p><p>9:56 Wispr Flow: Stop typing. Dictate with Wispr Flow and send clean, final-draft writing in seconds. Visit https://wisprflow.ai/twist to get started for free today.</p><p>21:16 Circle: The easiest way to build a home for your community, events, and courses — all under your own brand. TWiST listeners get $1,000 off the Circle Plus Plan by going to https://circle.so/twist.</p><p>22:01 How Astroforge uses capitalism to unlock abundance</p><p>24:35 J-Cal subscribed to… A socialist magazine?</p><p>26:19 Sam Dare of Templar joins the show!</p><p>27:47 What is TAO doing that&#39;s uniquely different from Bitcoin</p><p>30:15 What is the incentive mechanism that Templar uses?</p><p>30:44 Deel - Founders scale faster on Deel. Set up payroll for any country in minutes, hire anyone anywhere, get visas handled fast, and get back to building. Visit https://deel.com/twist to learn more.</p><p>37:49 How much does it cost to run templar&#39;s model?</p><p>45:16 Can decentralized training over the internet scale? https://epoch.ai/gradient-updates/how-far-can-decentralized-training-over-the-internet-scale</p><p>47:16 Jason addresses his tao investment</p><p>48:48 Why brand is the moat for startups</p><p>49:47 When will a better, more exciting version of Bitcoin, can come along?</p><p>52:20 Yazin of OpenGranola Joins the show</p><p>53:36 How OpenGranola has local LLM&#39;s taking notes for you and giving you real time insights in your meeting!</p><p>1:01:45 Jason&#39;s callout for a sidebar that shows all inputs from agents</p><p>1:13:50 The economics of the new harry potter series and HBO/ Warner Brothers</p><p>1:23:33 Why Jason wants government surveillance on Disney adults…</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Subscribe to the TWiST500 newsletter:<a href="https://ticker.thisweekinstartups.com"> <u>https://ticker.thisweekinstartups.com</u></a></p><p>Check out the TWIST500:<a href="https://www.twist500.com"> <u>https://www.twist500.com</u></a></p><p>Subscribe to This Week in Startups on Apple:<a href="https://rb.gy/v19fcp"> <u>https://rb.gy/v19fcp</u></a></p><p>Follow Lon:</p><p>X:<a href="https://x.com/lons"> <u>https://x.com/lons</u></a></p><p>Follow Alex:</p><p>X:<a href="https://x.com/alex"> <u>https://x.com/alex</u></a></p><p>LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexwilhelm/"> <u>⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexwilhelm</u></a></p><p>Follow Jason:</p><p>X:<a href="https://twitter.com/Jason"> <u>https://twitter.com/Jason</u></a></p><p>LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasoncalacanis"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasoncalacanis</u><br></a></p><p>Check out all our partner offers:<a href="https://partners.launch.co/"> <u>https://partners.launch.co/</u></a></p><p>Great TWIST interviews:<a href="https://youtu.be/pvJa2pzuXWQ"> <u>Will Guidara,</u></a><a href="https://youtu.be/9dHN4YFkgv4"> <u>Eoghan McCabe</u></a>,<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/reddit-ceo-steve-huffman-on-mod-revolt-building-a/id315114957?i=1000617333424"> <u>Steve Huffman</u></a>,<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/airbnb-ceo-brian-chesky-on-early-rejection-customer/id315114957?i=1000611761112"> <u>Brian Chesky</u></a>,<a href="https://youtu.be/y2UMzSqX94Q"> <u>Bob Moesta,</u></a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/box-ceo-aaron-levie-breaks-down-box-ai-and-generative/id315114957?i=1000612384545"> <u>Aaron Levie</u></a>,<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/sophia-amoruso-on-branding-raising-a-fund-portfolio/id315114957?i=1000601352978"> <u>Sophia Amoruso</u></a>,<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/reid-hoffman-on-ais-crescendo-moment-regulation-and/id315114957?i=1000612548498"> <u>Reid Hoffman</u></a>,<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/snowflake-ceo-frank-slootman-on-moving-the-needle-win/id315114957?i=1000602560622"> <u>Frank Slootman</u></a>,<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/billy-mcfarland-on-fyre-fest-fraud-failure-hacking/id315114957?i=1000610922577"> <u>Billy McFarland</u></a></p><p>Check out Jason’s suite of newsletters:<a href="https://substack.com/@calacanis"> <u>https://substack.com/@calacanis</u></a></p><p>Follow TWiST:</p><p>Twitter:<a href="https://twitter.com/TWiStartups"> <u>https://twitter.com/TWiStartups</u></a></p><p>YouTube:<a href="https://www.youtube.com/thisweekin"> <u>https://www.youtube.com/thisweekin</u></a></p><p>Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/thisweekinstartups"> <u>https://www.instagram.com/thisweekinstartups</u></a></p><p>TikTok:<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@thisweekinstartups"> <u>https://www.tiktok.com/@thisweekinstartups</u></a></p><p>Substack:<a href="https://twistartups.substack.com"> <u>https://twistartups.substack.com</u></a></p><p><br></p>

This Week in Startups

Jason Calacanis

The $60 billion resource hiding in space, and the start trying to mine it (feat. Matt Gialich, Astroforge) | E2268

MAR 27, 202699 MIN
This Week in Startups

The $60 billion resource hiding in space, and the start trying to mine it (feat. Matt Gialich, Astroforge) | E2268

MAR 27, 202699 MIN

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<p>This Week In Startups is made possible by:</p><p><br></p><p>Wispr Flow - https://<a href="https://wisprflow.ai/twist"><u>wisprflow.ai/twist</u></a></p><p>Circle -<a href="http://circle.so/twist"> <u>http://circle.so/twist</u></a></p><p>Deel -<a href="http://circle.so/twist"> <u>http://</u></a><a href="http://deel.com/twist"><u>deel.com/twist</u></a></p><p><br></p><p>Today’s show:</p><p><br></p><p>AstroForge is building low-cost, replicable spacecraft to mine platinum group metals from near-Earth asteroids — a $60 billion annual market for materials that are running out on Earth. Founder and CEO Matt Gialich joins the show to talk about the company&#39;s ambitious mission, what went wrong on their first two flights, and why Mission 3 could still change everything.</p><p>PLUS Sam Dare from Templar stops by to talk about training AI models on a decentralized blockchain, and why it’s so much cheaper and more efficient than the conventional “data center full of GPUs” method. AND a demo of OpenOats from creator Yazin Alirhayim of his open source Granola alternative.</p><p>Astroforge:<a href="https://www.astroforge.com/"> <u>https://www.astroforge.com/</u></a></p><p>Templar:<a href="https://www.tplr.ai/"> <u>https://www.tplr.ai/</u></a></p><p>Epoch AI decentralized training post:<a href="https://epoch.ai/gradient-updates/how-far-can-decentralized-training-over-the-internet-scale"> <u>https://epoch.ai/gradient-updates/how-far-can-decentralized-training-over-the-internet-scale</u></a></p><p>OpenOats on Github:<a href="https://github.com/yazinsai/OpenOats"> <u>https://github.com/yazinsai/OpenOats</u></a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Timestamps:</strong></p><p>0:00 Intro</p><p>0:59 Plaud: If your work depends on conversations — interviews, meetings, calls — you need a Plaud NotePin. You can check it out at https://Plaud.ai/twist and use code TWIST for 10% off!</p><p>3:05 We aplaud Plaud!</p><p>3:18 Astroforge is mining… asteroids?!</p><p>6:11 How creating an abundance of Platinum will impact Humanity!</p><p>9:56 Wispr Flow: Stop typing. Dictate with Wispr Flow and send clean, final-draft writing in seconds. Visit https://wisprflow.ai/twist to get started for free today.</p><p>21:16 Circle: The easiest way to build a home for your community, events, and courses — all under your own brand. TWiST listeners get $1,000 off the Circle Plus Plan by going to https://circle.so/twist.</p><p>22:01 How Astroforge uses capitalism to unlock abundance</p><p>24:35 J-Cal subscribed to… A socialist magazine?</p><p>26:19 Sam Dare of Templar joins the show!</p><p>27:47 What is TAO doing that&#39;s uniquely different from Bitcoin</p><p>30:15 What is the incentive mechanism that Templar uses?</p><p>30:44 Deel - Founders scale faster on Deel. Set up payroll for any country in minutes, hire anyone anywhere, get visas handled fast, and get back to building. Visit https://deel.com/twist to learn more.</p><p>37:49 How much does it cost to run templar&#39;s model?</p><p>45:16 Can decentralized training over the internet scale? https://epoch.ai/gradient-updates/how-far-can-decentralized-training-over-the-internet-scale</p><p>47:16 Jason addresses his tao investment</p><p>48:48 Why brand is the moat for startups</p><p>49:47 When will a better, more exciting version of Bitcoin, can come along?</p><p>52:20 Yazin of OpenGranola Joins the show</p><p>53:36 How OpenGranola has local LLM&#39;s taking notes for you and giving you real time insights in your meeting!</p><p>1:01:45 Jason&#39;s callout for a sidebar that shows all inputs from agents</p><p>1:13:50 The economics of the new harry potter series and HBO/ Warner Brothers</p><p>1:23:33 Why Jason wants government surveillance on Disney adults…</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Subscribe to the TWiST500 newsletter:<a href="https://ticker.thisweekinstartups.com"> <u>https://ticker.thisweekinstartups.com</u></a></p><p>Check out the TWIST500:<a href="https://www.twist500.com"> <u>https://www.twist500.com</u></a></p><p>Subscribe to This Week in Startups on Apple:<a href="https://rb.gy/v19fcp"> <u>https://rb.gy/v19fcp</u></a></p><p>Follow Lon:</p><p>X:<a href="https://x.com/lons"> <u>https://x.com/lons</u></a></p><p>Follow Alex:</p><p>X:<a href="https://x.com/alex"> <u>https://x.com/alex</u></a></p><p>LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexwilhelm/"> <u>⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexwilhelm</u></a></p><p>Follow Jason:</p><p>X:<a href="https://twitter.com/Jason"> <u>https://twitter.com/Jason</u></a></p><p>LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasoncalacanis"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasoncalacanis</u><br></a></p><p>Check out all our partner offers:<a href="https://partners.launch.co/"> <u>https://partners.launch.co/</u></a></p><p>Great TWIST interviews:<a href="https://youtu.be/pvJa2pzuXWQ"> <u>Will Guidara,</u></a><a href="https://youtu.be/9dHN4YFkgv4"> <u>Eoghan McCabe</u></a>,<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/reddit-ceo-steve-huffman-on-mod-revolt-building-a/id315114957?i=1000617333424"> <u>Steve Huffman</u></a>,<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/airbnb-ceo-brian-chesky-on-early-rejection-customer/id315114957?i=1000611761112"> <u>Brian Chesky</u></a>,<a href="https://youtu.be/y2UMzSqX94Q"> <u>Bob Moesta,</u></a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/box-ceo-aaron-levie-breaks-down-box-ai-and-generative/id315114957?i=1000612384545"> <u>Aaron Levie</u></a>,<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/sophia-amoruso-on-branding-raising-a-fund-portfolio/id315114957?i=1000601352978"> <u>Sophia Amoruso</u></a>,<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/reid-hoffman-on-ais-crescendo-moment-regulation-and/id315114957?i=1000612548498"> <u>Reid Hoffman</u></a>,<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/snowflake-ceo-frank-slootman-on-moving-the-needle-win/id315114957?i=1000602560622"> <u>Frank Slootman</u></a>,<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/billy-mcfarland-on-fyre-fest-fraud-failure-hacking/id315114957?i=1000610922577"> <u>Billy McFarland</u></a></p><p>Check out Jason’s suite of newsletters:<a href="https://substack.com/@calacanis"> <u>https://substack.com/@calacanis</u></a></p><p>Follow TWiST:</p><p>Twitter:<a href="https://twitter.com/TWiStartups"> <u>https://twitter.com/TWiStartups</u></a></p><p>YouTube:<a href="https://www.youtube.com/thisweekin"> <u>https://www.youtube.com/thisweekin</u></a></p><p>Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/thisweekinstartups"> <u>https://www.instagram.com/thisweekinstartups</u></a></p><p>TikTok:<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@thisweekinstartups"> <u>https://www.tiktok.com/@thisweekinstartups</u></a></p><p>Substack:<a href="https://twistartups.substack.com"> <u>https://twistartups.substack.com</u></a></p><p><br></p>