<p>Kmele loves Apple products…maybe a little too much. But what a perfect guest to talk all things related to this monster company and how it’s shaped American culture and the globe as a whole.</p><p>-The Newton saved Apple</p><p>-What Kmele does with Apple products in the shower</p><p>-The underdog with taste</p><p>-Why Matt Welch hates Macs</p><p>-On getting access to Apple</p><p>-Project Titan and the $10 billion heartbreak</p><p>-Apple as a medical device company</p><p>-Still a Steve Jobs disciple of focus</p><p>-Apple made China and China made Apple</p><p>-Where there is no will, there’s a way</p><p>-New locations for Apple manufacturing</p><p>-On the fantasy of bringing it back to the US</p><p>-Apple Intelligence, deepfakes, and doing AI the “right” way</p><p>-All it takes is a Congressperson having sex with a sheep</p><p>-Anthropic, cheating, and the possible jobs apocalypse</p><p>-The long runway</p><p><strong>Read </strong><strong><em>Apple: The First 50 Years</em></strong><strong> by David Pogue (</strong><a target="_blank" href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/apple-the-first-50-years-david-pogue/dbe9ca01106c0258?ean=9781982134594&#38;next=t"><strong>Bookshop</strong></a><strong> | </strong><a target="_blank" href="https://www.amazon.com/Apple-First-Years-David-Pogue/dp/1982134593/ref=sr_1_1?crid=4FIEJOUTXGV&#38;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.3FyBXdAFlnWjJH9h4qRcqv8E9w54AFR7l2juUSRBgApvp3ZYW2oSsyaKaBjK4CUczdxAn9o8Sts8F3c7rHslBiVuzDuD8DMSDfcTGE0Lryz2Vl7bzb9j7EFuTY8HqekAZ2pD4IvZz4yjXm7Lp45nFiHbiZxQTHSAB39tFS39RP8.0lIYe_iIwtWDERcPK9TXclwbeBzksxA-dV2VGlTMxTA&#38;dib_tag=se&#38;keywords=the+first+50+years+of+apple&#38;qid=1774471450&#38;sprefix=the+first+50+years+of+ap%2Caps%2C535&#38;sr=8-1"><strong>Amazon</strong></a><strong>)</strong></p><p><strong>Prefer to watch & chat live with other members of the Fifdom? This </strong><a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/BtUzcm1SuMU"><strong>episode premieres over on our YouTube channel </strong></a><strong>at 12PM EST.</strong></p><p></p><p>After 10 years, we’ve finally found a sponsor we actually like. <strong>Ground News</strong> pulls coverage of the same story into one place so you can compare headlines across sources and see how framing changes depending on the outlet.</p><p>Subscribe for 40% off our Vantage plan using our unique link <a target="_blank" href="https://groundnews.com/fifth">https://groundnews.com/fifth</a></p><p><p>The Fifth Column (A Podcast) is a reader/viewer supported publication. To receive new posts and support our work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></p><p><strong>Follow The Fifth Column</strong></p><p>YouTube: <a target="_blank" href="https://substack.com/redirect/9e5f160b-065d-42ce-92a4-edf21df804ae?j=eyJ1IjoiZTQzMWYifQ.dc-8vtNe6mnVPNyWzBj8PVjHOlHrTw5oo2hNegjrHnA">@wethefifth</a>Instagram: <a target="_blank" href="https://substack.com/redirect/49442cc1-448b-481d-a04c-a58e62415aa9?j=eyJ1IjoiZTQzMWYifQ.dc-8vtNe6mnVPNyWzBj8PVjHOlHrTw5oo2hNegjrHnA">@we.the.fifth</a>X: <a target="_blank" href="https://substack.com/redirect/e5c13b74-b540-4b93-a1ed-2ba2670462c1?j=eyJ1IjoiZTQzMWYifQ.dc-8vtNe6mnVPNyWzBj8PVjHOlHrTw5oo2hNegjrHnA">@wethefifth</a>TikTok: <a target="_blank" href="https://substack.com/redirect/971da500-8db0-4269-9aaf-7d7459adf93a?j=eyJ1IjoiZTQzMWYifQ.dc-8vtNe6mnVPNyWzBj8PVjHOlHrTw5oo2hNegjrHnA">@wethefifth</a>Facebook: <a target="_blank" href="https://www.facebook.com/@thefifthcolumn">@thefifthcolumn</a></p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.wethefifth.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_2">www.wethefifth.com/subscribe</a>