<description>&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;🗣️ New &lt;a href="https://atp.fm/join"&gt;ATP Member&lt;/a&gt;&amp;#8217;s special: &lt;a href="https://atp.fm/atp-tier-list-storage-media"&gt;ATP Tier List: Storage Media&lt;/a&gt; 🗣️&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Follow-up:

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Marco updates

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/autosleep-track-sleep-on-watch/id1164801111"&gt;AutoSleep&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;iPhone leather backs

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://suti.co/products/phoneback?variant=48977462231335"&gt;Suti PhoneBack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://nomadgoods.com/products/magnetic-leather-back-black-horween-iphone-16-pro-max"&gt;Nomad Magnetic Leather Back&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;HDR photos from big cameras&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Apple laptops &lt;strong&gt;can&lt;/strong&gt; run without a battery connected

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://xkcd.com/2998/"&gt;XKCD: Ravioli-Shaped Objects&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/10/24266763/apple-tv-plus-amazon-prime-video-add-on-subscription"&gt;You can soon get Apple TV+ on Prime Video&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Soccer corner

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.apple.com/tv-pr/news/2024/01/apple-tv-kicks-off-first-ever-all-access-major-league-soccer-docuseries-offering-fans-a-never-before-seen-insiders-view-on-the-2024-season/"&gt;&amp;#8220;Drive to Survive&amp;#8221; knockoff is coming&lt;/a&gt; (via Devon Dundee)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;On Messi/MLS popularity&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p0cjyk2w"&gt;Shipping Forecast&lt;/a&gt; (via &lt;a href="https://mastodon.social/@antonyjohnston/113288711283904817"&gt;Antony Johnson&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Enabling/disabling audio modes on AirPods 4 w/ ANC (via &lt;a href="https://mastodon.social/@1minus1/113285603861357283"&gt;Scott Zero&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;John&amp;#8217;s AirPods update&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPS_Exchange_Format"&gt;GPX&lt;/a&gt; exports for geotagging photos (via &lt;a href="https://avgeek.social/@rpmik/113193316040791204"&gt;Ryan Mikulovsky&lt;/a&gt;)

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://pedometer.app/"&gt;Pedometer++&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;More thoughts on global keyboard shortcuts in Sequoia (via Michael Berk)

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://developer.apple.com/documentation/appkit/nsevent/1535472-addglobalmonitorforevents"&gt;&lt;code&gt;NSEvent.addGlobalMonitorForEvents&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Passkey benefits

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://9to5mac.com/2024/10/14/new-passkeys-import-export/"&gt;Import/export is forthcoming&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://fidoalliance.org/fido-alliance-publishes-new-specifications-to-promote-user-choice-and-enhanced-ux-for-passkeys/"&gt;Press release&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://blog.1password.com/fido-alliance-import-export-passkeys-draft-specs/"&gt;1Password blog post&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://the-decoder.com/apple-ai-researchers-question-openais-claims-about-o1s-reasoning-capabilities/"&gt;Apple says &amp;#8220;🤨&amp;#8221; to OpenAI claims about reasoning&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://arxiv.org/pdf/2410.05229"&gt;Research paper&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://x.com/mfarajtabar/status/1844456880971858028?s=61"&gt;Thread from Mehrdad Farajtabar&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/llms-dont-do-formal-reasoning-and"&gt;More from Gary Marcus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-Jl0dxWQs8&amp;amp;list=PLZHQObOWTQDNU6R1_67000Dx_ZCJB-3pi"&gt;How LLMs might store facts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/8/24265832/google-search-antitrust-remedies-framework-android-chrome-play"&gt;Google breakup is a possibility&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://blog.google/outreach-initiatives/public-policy/doj-search-remedies-framework/"&gt;Google&amp;#8217;s response&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2024/10/apple-introduces-powerful-new-ipad-mini-built-for-apple-intelligence/"&gt;New iPad Mini&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2024/10/apple-debuts-the-first-scripted-film-captured-in-apple-immersive-video/"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Submerged&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYJcUtVIB_g&amp;amp;pp=ygUTbWFraW5nIG9mIHN1Ym1lcmdlZA%3D%3D"&gt;Making of &lt;em&gt;Submerged&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vergence-accommodation_conflict"&gt;Vergence-accommodation conflict&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ask ATP:

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;How do you get started editing photos? (via Maxel Amador)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;What&amp;#8217;s the point in performance cores if they&amp;#8217;re not used? (via &lt;a href="https://mstdn.social/@scottshuchart/112888444752471159"&gt;Scott Schuchart&lt;/a&gt;)

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl%27s_law"&gt;Amdahl&amp;#8217;s Law&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://atp.fm/join"&gt;Members-only&lt;/a&gt; ATP Overtime: What is the right product mix for iPhone

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1suvBMMLh8"&gt;Max Tech&amp;#8217;s iPhone 17 naming wishcasting&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sponsored by:&lt;/p&gt;

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</description>

Accidental Tech Podcast

Marco Arment, Casey Liss, John Siracusa

609: You're the Oreo Cookie

OCT 17, 2024122 MIN
Accidental Tech Podcast

609: You're the Oreo Cookie

OCT 17, 2024122 MIN

Description

<ul> <li>🗣️ New <a href="https://atp.fm/join">ATP Member</a>&#8217;s special: <a href="https://atp.fm/atp-tier-list-storage-media">ATP Tier List: Storage Media</a> 🗣️</li> <li>Follow-up: <ul> <li>Marco updates <ul> <li><a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/autosleep-track-sleep-on-watch/id1164801111">AutoSleep</a></li> <li>iPhone leather backs <ul> <li><a href="https://suti.co/products/phoneback?variant=48977462231335">Suti PhoneBack</a></li> <li><a href="https://nomadgoods.com/products/magnetic-leather-back-black-horween-iphone-16-pro-max">Nomad Magnetic Leather Back</a></li> </ul></li> <li>HDR photos from big cameras</li> </ul></li> <li>Apple laptops <strong>can</strong> run without a battery connected <ul> <li><a href="https://xkcd.com/2998/">XKCD: Ravioli-Shaped Objects</a></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/10/24266763/apple-tv-plus-amazon-prime-video-add-on-subscription">You can soon get Apple TV+ on Prime Video</a></li> <li>Soccer corner <ul> <li><a href="https://www.apple.com/tv-pr/news/2024/01/apple-tv-kicks-off-first-ever-all-access-major-league-soccer-docuseries-offering-fans-a-never-before-seen-insiders-view-on-the-2024-season/">&#8220;Drive to Survive&#8221; knockoff is coming</a> (via Devon Dundee)</li> <li>On Messi/MLS popularity</li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p0cjyk2w">Shipping Forecast</a> (via <a href="https://mastodon.social/@antonyjohnston/113288711283904817">Antony Johnson</a>)</li> <li>Enabling/disabling audio modes on AirPods 4 w/ ANC (via <a href="https://mastodon.social/@1minus1/113285603861357283">Scott Zero</a>)</li> <li>John&#8217;s AirPods update</li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPS_Exchange_Format">GPX</a> exports for geotagging photos (via <a href="https://avgeek.social/@rpmik/113193316040791204">Ryan Mikulovsky</a>) <ul> <li><a href="https://pedometer.app/">Pedometer++</a></li> </ul></li> <li>More thoughts on global keyboard shortcuts in Sequoia (via Michael Berk) <ul> <li><a href="https://developer.apple.com/documentation/appkit/nsevent/1535472-addglobalmonitorforevents"><code>NSEvent.addGlobalMonitorForEvents</code></a></li> </ul></li> <li>Passkey benefits <ul> <li><a href="https://9to5mac.com/2024/10/14/new-passkeys-import-export/">Import/export is forthcoming</a> <ul> <li><a href="https://fidoalliance.org/fido-alliance-publishes-new-specifications-to-promote-user-choice-and-enhanced-ux-for-passkeys/">Press release</a></li> <li><a href="https://blog.1password.com/fido-alliance-import-export-passkeys-draft-specs/">1Password blog post</a></li> </ul></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://the-decoder.com/apple-ai-researchers-question-openais-claims-about-o1s-reasoning-capabilities/">Apple says &#8220;🤨&#8221; to OpenAI claims about reasoning</a> <ul> <li><a href="https://arxiv.org/pdf/2410.05229">Research paper</a></li> <li><a href="https://x.com/mfarajtabar/status/1844456880971858028?s=61">Thread from Mehrdad Farajtabar</a></li> <li><a href="https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/llms-dont-do-formal-reasoning-and">More from Gary Marcus</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-Jl0dxWQs8&amp;list=PLZHQObOWTQDNU6R1_67000Dx_ZCJB-3pi">How LLMs might store facts</a></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/8/24265832/google-search-antitrust-remedies-framework-android-chrome-play">Google breakup is a possibility</a> <ul> <li><a href="https://blog.google/outreach-initiatives/public-policy/doj-search-remedies-framework/">Google&#8217;s response</a></li> </ul></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2024/10/apple-introduces-powerful-new-ipad-mini-built-for-apple-intelligence/">New iPad Mini</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2024/10/apple-debuts-the-first-scripted-film-captured-in-apple-immersive-video/"><em>Submerged</em></a> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYJcUtVIB_g&amp;pp=ygUTbWFraW5nIG9mIHN1Ym1lcmdlZA%3D%3D">Making of <em>Submerged</em></a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vergence-accommodation_conflict">Vergence-accommodation conflict</a></li> </ul></li> <li>Ask ATP: <ul> <li>How do you get started editing photos? (via Maxel Amador)</li> <li>What&#8217;s the point in performance cores if they&#8217;re not used? (via <a href="https://mstdn.social/@scottshuchart/112888444752471159">Scott Schuchart</a>) <ul> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl%27s_law">Amdahl&#8217;s Law</a></li> </ul></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://atp.fm/join">Members-only</a> ATP Overtime: What is the right product mix for iPhone <ul> <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1suvBMMLh8">Max Tech&#8217;s iPhone 17 naming wishcasting</a></li> </ul></li> </ul> <p>Sponsored by:</p> <ul> <li><a href="https://squarespace.com/atp">Squarespace</a>: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code <strong>ATP</strong>.</li> <li><a href="https://www.uncommongoods.com/atp">Uncommon Goods</a>: Get 15% off your next gift.</li> </ul> <p><a href="https://atp.fm/join">Become a member</a> for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!</p>