<description>&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;strong&gt;New member-exclusive &lt;a href="https://atp.fm/atp-insider-making-the-show"&gt;ATP Insider: Making The Show&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Follow-up: 

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;John&amp;#8217;s [hopefully] (?) forthcoming app

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;A funny conspiracy theory shared by &lt;a href="https://mastodon.social/@tomalvarez/113644004861297949"&gt;Thomas Alvarez&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://ioc.exchange/@whophd/113643384065092194"&gt;Christian Kent&amp;#8217;s correct/joke&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;More app name ideas…&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.shirt-pocket.com/SuperDuper/"&gt;Experts&lt;/a&gt; have &lt;a href="https://mas.to/@dnanian/113662472336207525"&gt;weighed in&lt;/a&gt; on John&amp;#8217;s idea&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Alternative space-saving idea from Timm Schoof&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Using self-service parts for upgrade is not really possible because ✨software✨&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://mastodon.social/@siracusa/113651291768791883"&gt;Pinstripes are back&lt;/a&gt;, baby!

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://mastodon.social/@lapcatsoftware/113651337066219676"&gt;Jeff Johnson&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/MacOS/comments/1hdf7s3/ever_since_i_updated_to_152_my_safari_and_finder/"&gt;Reddit post&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Is Siri… emotional… now?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Marco&amp;#8217;s &lt;a href="https://usetrmnl.com/"&gt;new e-ink toy&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://usetrmnl.com/integrations"&gt;Integrations&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://docs.usetrmnl.com/go"&gt;API&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Note that it&amp;#8217;s &lt;a href="https://usetrmnl.com/blog/batch-1-sold-out"&gt;backordered for a bit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;New &lt;a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/wild-life/umc.cmc.63jzn7b2c5w488vb72cabapqa"&gt;Wildlife&lt;/a&gt; immersive video episode&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/media/release/20241217-01"&gt;Blackmagic announces immersive video camera&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://mastodon.social/@_Davidsmith/113666665256122829"&gt;_&amp;#8217;s toot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuickTime_VR"&gt;Quicktime VR&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://matterport.com/industries/real-estate"&gt;Matterport&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2024-12-08/apple-sony-talk-playstation-vr-ps-vr2-hand-controller-support-for-vision-pro"&gt;Apple Vision Pro 🤝 PlayStation VR2 Controllers&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://direct.playstation.com/en-us/playstation-vr2"&gt;PlayStation VR2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAfTXYa36f4"&gt;Steve Jobs quoting Alan Kay&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;em&gt;People who are really serious about software should make their own hardware.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Post-show: John&amp;#8217;s app progress

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.caseyliss.com/2020/11/10/on-apples-pisspoor-documentation"&gt;Casey&amp;#8217;s thoughts on [dire lack of] Apple documentation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2023/10013"&gt;Meet StoreKit for SwiftUI (WWDC 2023)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://developer.apple.com/documentation/SwiftUI/Backyard-birds-sample"&gt;Apple&amp;#8217;s Backyard Birds sample app&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://developer.apple.com/documentation/storekit/entitlementtaskstate/map(_:)-8ly3v"&gt;&lt;code&gt;map(_:)&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.hackingwithswift.com/"&gt;Hacking with Swift&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://atp.fm/join"&gt;Members-only&lt;/a&gt; ATP Overtime: The Mac monitor situation

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;5K is 5120 × 2880&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://bjango.com/articles/macexternaldisplays/"&gt;Marc Edwards&amp;#8217; chart&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/uhd-and-wqhd/27-viewfinity-s9-5k-monitor-with-thunderbolt-4-matte-display-and-smart-features-ls27c900panxza/"&gt;Samsung ViewFinity S9&amp;#160;5K&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;At the time of recording, &lt;a href="https://amzn.to/3NayiPl"&gt;on sale for $720&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://sixcolors.com/post/2023/09/review-27-inch-samsung-viewfinity-s9-display/"&gt;Jason&amp;#8217;s review&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.asus.com/us/displays-desktops/monitors/proart/proart-display-5k-pa27jcv/"&gt;ASUS ProArt Display 5K PA27JCV Professional Monitor&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.cultofmac.com/reviews/5k-desktop-monitor-asus-proart-5k-pa27jcv-review"&gt;Review by D. Griffin Jones&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.benq.com/en-us/monitor/professional/pd2730s/buy.html"&gt;BenQ PD2730S&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://press.asus.com/news/press-releases/asus-rog-strix-gaming-monitor-proart-display-zenscreen-2025/"&gt;ASUS PorArt Display 6K PA32QCV&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/07/a-future-external-mac-monitor-will-have-an-always-on-display-report-claims/"&gt;Apple&amp;#8217;s plans&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sponsored by:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.masterclass.com/atp"&gt;MasterClass&lt;/a&gt;: Learn from the world&amp;#8217;s best. Video lessons that inspire.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://auraframes.com"&gt;Aura Frames&lt;/a&gt;: The best digital photo frame. Use code ATP for $35 off the best-selling Carver Mat frame.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://atp.fm/join"&gt;Become a member&lt;/a&gt; for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!&lt;/p&gt;
</description>

Accidental Tech Podcast

Marco Arment, Casey Liss, John Siracusa

618: Type System Says No

DEC 19, 2024136 MIN
Accidental Tech Podcast

618: Type System Says No

DEC 19, 2024136 MIN

Description

<ul> <li><strong>New member-exclusive <a href="https://atp.fm/atp-insider-making-the-show">ATP Insider: Making The Show</a></strong></li> <li>Follow-up: <ul> <li>John&#8217;s [hopefully] (?) forthcoming app <ul> <li>A funny conspiracy theory shared by <a href="https://mastodon.social/@tomalvarez/113644004861297949">Thomas Alvarez</a></li> <li><a href="https://ioc.exchange/@whophd/113643384065092194">Christian Kent&#8217;s correct/joke</a></li> <li>More app name ideas…</li> <li><a href="https://www.shirt-pocket.com/SuperDuper/">Experts</a> have <a href="https://mas.to/@dnanian/113662472336207525">weighed in</a> on John&#8217;s idea</li> <li>Alternative space-saving idea from Timm Schoof</li> </ul></li> <li>Using self-service parts for upgrade is not really possible because ✨software✨</li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://mastodon.social/@siracusa/113651291768791883">Pinstripes are back</a>, baby! <ul> <li><a href="https://mastodon.social/@lapcatsoftware/113651337066219676">Jeff Johnson</a> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/MacOS/comments/1hdf7s3/ever_since_i_updated_to_152_my_safari_and_finder/">Reddit post</a></li> </ul></li> </ul></li> <li>Is Siri… emotional… now?</li> <li>Marco&#8217;s <a href="https://usetrmnl.com/">new e-ink toy</a> <ul> <li><a href="https://usetrmnl.com/integrations">Integrations</a></li> <li><a href="https://docs.usetrmnl.com/go">API</a></li> <li>Note that it&#8217;s <a href="https://usetrmnl.com/blog/batch-1-sold-out">backordered for a bit</a></li> </ul></li> <li>New <a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/wild-life/umc.cmc.63jzn7b2c5w488vb72cabapqa">Wildlife</a> immersive video episode</li> <li><a href="https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/media/release/20241217-01">Blackmagic announces immersive video camera</a> <ul> <li><a href="https://mastodon.social/@_Davidsmith/113666665256122829">_&#8217;s toot</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuickTime_VR">Quicktime VR</a></li> <li><a href="https://matterport.com/industries/real-estate">Matterport</a></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2024-12-08/apple-sony-talk-playstation-vr-ps-vr2-hand-controller-support-for-vision-pro">Apple Vision Pro 🤝 PlayStation VR2 Controllers</a> <ul> <li><a href="https://direct.playstation.com/en-us/playstation-vr2">PlayStation VR2</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAfTXYa36f4">Steve Jobs quoting Alan Kay</a><br /> <em>People who are really serious about software should make their own hardware.</em></li> </ul></li> <li>Post-show: John&#8217;s app progress <ul> <li><a href="https://www.caseyliss.com/2020/11/10/on-apples-pisspoor-documentation">Casey&#8217;s thoughts on [dire lack of] Apple documentation</a></li> <li><a href="https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2023/10013">Meet StoreKit for SwiftUI (WWDC 2023)</a></li> <li><a href="https://developer.apple.com/documentation/SwiftUI/Backyard-birds-sample">Apple&#8217;s Backyard Birds sample app</a></li> <li><a href="https://developer.apple.com/documentation/storekit/entitlementtaskstate/map(_:)-8ly3v"><code>map(_:)</code></a></li> <li><a href="https://www.hackingwithswift.com/">Hacking with Swift</a></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://atp.fm/join">Members-only</a> ATP Overtime: The Mac monitor situation <ul> <li>5K is 5120 × 2880</li> <li><a href="https://bjango.com/articles/macexternaldisplays/">Marc Edwards&#8217; chart</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/uhd-and-wqhd/27-viewfinity-s9-5k-monitor-with-thunderbolt-4-matte-display-and-smart-features-ls27c900panxza/">Samsung ViewFinity S9&#160;5K</a> <ul> <li>At the time of recording, <a href="https://amzn.to/3NayiPl">on sale for $720</a></li> <li><a href="https://sixcolors.com/post/2023/09/review-27-inch-samsung-viewfinity-s9-display/">Jason&#8217;s review</a></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://www.asus.com/us/displays-desktops/monitors/proart/proart-display-5k-pa27jcv/">ASUS ProArt Display 5K PA27JCV Professional Monitor</a> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.cultofmac.com/reviews/5k-desktop-monitor-asus-proart-5k-pa27jcv-review">Review by D. Griffin Jones</a></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://www.benq.com/en-us/monitor/professional/pd2730s/buy.html">BenQ PD2730S</a></li> <li><a href="https://press.asus.com/news/press-releases/asus-rog-strix-gaming-monitor-proart-display-zenscreen-2025/">ASUS PorArt Display 6K PA32QCV</a></li> <li><a href="https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/07/a-future-external-mac-monitor-will-have-an-always-on-display-report-claims/">Apple&#8217;s plans</a></li> </ul></li> </ul> <p>Sponsored by:</p> <ul> <li><a href="https://squarespace.com/atp">Squarespace</a>: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code <strong>ATP</strong>.</li> <li><a href="https://www.masterclass.com/atp">MasterClass</a>: Learn from the world&#8217;s best. Video lessons that inspire.</li> <li><a href="https://auraframes.com">Aura Frames</a>: The best digital photo frame. Use code ATP for $35 off the best-selling Carver Mat frame.</li> </ul> <p><a href="https://atp.fm/join">Become a member</a> for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!</p>