<description>&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pre-show: Marco went to the bank wrong&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Follow-up:

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vision Pro Corner

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;New &lt;em&gt;Adventure&lt;/em&gt; episode: &lt;a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/adventure/umc.cmc.5al10vz5fkqzxonreq110ony0"&gt;Deep Water Solo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Spatial Gallery&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Metallica immersive special &lt;a href="https://www.metallica.com/news/2025-03-11-metallica-apple-immersive-concert-film.html"&gt;is coming&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh93kmgZvUg"&gt;Virginia Tech 🤝🏻 &lt;em&gt;Enter Sandman&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;iPad Air corner

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&amp;#8220;2× bass&amp;#8221; false alarm

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.macrumors.com/2025/03/05/13-inch-ipad-air-m3-chip-no-double-bass/"&gt;404&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Appeal

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Affordable big screen (notes &lt;a href="https://podcastindex.social/@js/114133952981032920"&gt;John Spurlock&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;🗣️ ARE YOU LISTENING APPLE PEOPLE LIKE COLOR 🗣️ (via Ryan Manly)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Portrait-only iPad apps (via Matt Rippetoe)

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://mas.to/@Jochel/114132356881250911"&gt;Example video from Fabian&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;More on colors (via Yossi Kanner)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.macrumors.com/2025/03/07/new-macbook-air-corrects-design-mistake/"&gt;MacBook Air&amp;#8217;s keyboard has new mute iconography&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Regarding the &amp;#8220;Hidra&amp;#8221;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://atp.fm/562"&gt;ATP #562: Do You Have a Dragon?&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8mhpojD4XI&amp;amp;t=2068s"&gt;Interview with Srouji&lt;/a&gt; (timestamp link)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lernaean_Hydra"&gt;Lernaean Hydra&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2025-03-09/apple-ipad-air-mac-studio-macbook-air-thoughts-company-explores-smart-glasses"&gt;Gurman on the M4 Ultra &amp;amp; Hidra&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Early M3 Ultra benchmarks from &lt;a href="https://browser.geekbench.com/"&gt;Geekbench 6&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GPU: &lt;a href="https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/compute/3785744"&gt;M3 Ultra Metal&lt;/a&gt;: 259,668

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;10% faster than &lt;a href="https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/compute/3795599"&gt;M2 Ultra Mac Studio&amp;#8217;s best&lt;/a&gt; at 231,757&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;20% faster than &lt;a href="https://browser.geekbench.com/metal-benchmarks"&gt;M2 Ultra Mac Studio&amp;#8217;s average&lt;/a&gt; at 209,003&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CPU:

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/10933046"&gt;M3 Ultra single core&lt;/a&gt;: 3,144

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;~10% faster than &lt;a href="https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/10918502"&gt;M2 Ultra Mac Studio&amp;#8217;s best&lt;/a&gt; at 2,813&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;~20% slower than &lt;a href="https://browser.geekbench.com/macs/macbook-pro-16-inch-2024-16c-cpu"&gt;M4 Max MacBook Pro&amp;#8217;s average&lt;/a&gt; at 3,921&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/10933046"&gt;M3 Ultra multi-core&lt;/a&gt;: 28,119

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;~25% faster than &lt;a href="https://browser.geekbench.com/macs/mac-studio-2023-24c-cpu-60c-gpu"&gt;M2 Ultra Mac Studio&amp;#8217;s average&lt;/a&gt; at 21,373&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;~10% faster than &lt;a href="https://browser.geekbench.com/macs/macbook-pro-16-inch-2024-16c-cpu"&gt;M4 Max MacBook Pro&amp;#8217;s average&lt;/a&gt; at 25,647&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/03/m4-max-and-m3-ultra-mac-studio-review-a-weird-update-but-it-mostly-works/"&gt;More from Ars Technica&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://9to5mac.com/2025/02/16/apple-working-on-larger-imac/"&gt;Apple is working on a larger iMac?&lt;/a&gt; (AKA &lt;em&gt;John tries to save face&lt;/em&gt;)

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://atp.fm/473"&gt;ATP #473: Fanboats and Coattails&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a href="https://overcast.fm/+R7DWJClow/1:31:16"&gt;Overcast link to 1:31:16&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Threads timeline setting update

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://atp.fm/616"&gt;ATP #616: I Have No Grippers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/2024/11/25/24305690/threads-default-following-feed-test"&gt;The Verge&amp;#8217;s article (25 November 2024)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Thoughts on Feedback&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-03-10/apple-readies-dramatic-design-overhauls-for-ios-19-ipados-19-and-macos-16"&gt;Apple is allegedly &amp;#8220;dramatically&amp;#8221; redesigning the UI for its next OSes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Post-show: John&amp;#8217;s speaker update

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://amzn.to/4hlDD2F"&gt;Vanatoo Transparent Zero Plus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://amzn.to/3FlzNcx"&gt;ADAM Audio D3V&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://amzn.to/3F2GoIX"&gt;Kanto ORA&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://amzn.to/4c87IBG"&gt;Kanto S2 speaker stands&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://amzn.to/43nSeHz"&gt;Kanto ORA4&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://amzn.to/4bNE9VZ"&gt;Kanto S4 speaker stands&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://rogueamoeba.com/soundsource/"&gt;SoundSource&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://atp.fm/join"&gt;Members-only&lt;/a&gt; ATP Overtime: Some Volkswagen news

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a64054081/vw-id-every1-concept-revealed/"&gt;VW&amp;#8217;s ID.Every1 Concept&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/volkswagen-reintroducing-physical-controls-vital-functions"&gt;Physical buttons are coming back! 🥹&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.volkswagen-newsroom.com/en/press-releases/world-premiere-of-the-id-2all-concept-the-electric-car-from-volkswagen-costing-less-than-25000-euros-15625"&gt;ID.2all concept&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/626311/vw-physical-controls-buttons-coming-id-2-all"&gt;The Verge&amp;#8217;s coverage&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.media.volvocars.com/us/en-us/models/es90/2026/pressreleases"&gt;Volvo ES90&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/5/24091043/euro-ncap-safety-rating-europe-2026-touchscreen-buttons-dials"&gt;Euro NCAP puts their foot down&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sponsored by:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://betterhelp.com/ATECHPOD"&gt;BetterHelp&lt;/a&gt;: Give online therapy a try and get on your way to being your best self.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://usetrmnl.com?ref=atpfm"&gt;TRMNL&lt;/a&gt;: A hackable e-ink display.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://atp.fm/join"&gt;Become a member&lt;/a&gt; for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!&lt;/p&gt;
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Accidental Tech Podcast

Marco Arment, Casey Liss, John Siracusa

630: Time to Spiral

MAR 13, 2025156 MIN
Accidental Tech Podcast

630: Time to Spiral

MAR 13, 2025156 MIN

Description

<ul> <li>Pre-show: Marco went to the bank wrong</li> <li>Follow-up: <ul> <li>Vision Pro Corner <ul> <li>New <em>Adventure</em> episode: <a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/adventure/umc.cmc.5al10vz5fkqzxonreq110ony0">Deep Water Solo</a></li> <li>Spatial Gallery</li> <li>Metallica immersive special <a href="https://www.metallica.com/news/2025-03-11-metallica-apple-immersive-concert-film.html">is coming</a> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh93kmgZvUg">Virginia Tech 🤝🏻 <em>Enter Sandman</em></a></li> </ul></li> </ul></li> <li>iPad Air corner <ul> <li>&#8220;2× bass&#8221; false alarm <ul> <li><a href="https://www.macrumors.com/2025/03/05/13-inch-ipad-air-m3-chip-no-double-bass/">404</a></li> </ul></li> <li>Appeal <ul> <li>Affordable big screen (notes <a href="https://podcastindex.social/@js/114133952981032920">John Spurlock</a>)</li> <li>🗣️ ARE YOU LISTENING APPLE PEOPLE LIKE COLOR 🗣️ (via Ryan Manly)</li> </ul></li> </ul></li> <li>Portrait-only iPad apps (via Matt Rippetoe) <ul> <li><a href="https://mas.to/@Jochel/114132356881250911">Example video from Fabian</a></li> </ul></li> <li>More on colors (via Yossi Kanner)</li> <li><a href="https://www.macrumors.com/2025/03/07/new-macbook-air-corrects-design-mistake/">MacBook Air&#8217;s keyboard has new mute iconography</a></li> <li>Regarding the &#8220;Hidra&#8221; <ul> <li><a href="https://atp.fm/562">ATP #562: Do You Have a Dragon?</a> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8mhpojD4XI&amp;t=2068s">Interview with Srouji</a> (timestamp link)</li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lernaean_Hydra">Lernaean Hydra</a></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2025-03-09/apple-ipad-air-mac-studio-macbook-air-thoughts-company-explores-smart-glasses">Gurman on the M4 Ultra &amp; Hidra</a></li> <li>Early M3 Ultra benchmarks from <a href="https://browser.geekbench.com/">Geekbench 6</a> <ul> <li>GPU: <a href="https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/compute/3785744">M3 Ultra Metal</a>: 259,668 <ul> <li>10% faster than <a href="https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/compute/3795599">M2 Ultra Mac Studio&#8217;s best</a> at 231,757</li> <li>20% faster than <a href="https://browser.geekbench.com/metal-benchmarks">M2 Ultra Mac Studio&#8217;s average</a> at 209,003</li> </ul></li> <li>CPU: <ul> <li><a href="https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/10933046">M3 Ultra single core</a>: 3,144 <ul> <li>~10% faster than <a href="https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/10918502">M2 Ultra Mac Studio&#8217;s best</a> at 2,813</li> <li>~20% slower than <a href="https://browser.geekbench.com/macs/macbook-pro-16-inch-2024-16c-cpu">M4 Max MacBook Pro&#8217;s average</a> at 3,921</li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/10933046">M3 Ultra multi-core</a>: 28,119 <ul> <li>~25% faster than <a href="https://browser.geekbench.com/macs/mac-studio-2023-24c-cpu-60c-gpu">M2 Ultra Mac Studio&#8217;s average</a> at 21,373</li> <li>~10% faster than <a href="https://browser.geekbench.com/macs/macbook-pro-16-inch-2024-16c-cpu">M4 Max MacBook Pro&#8217;s average</a> at 25,647</li> </ul></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/03/m4-max-and-m3-ultra-mac-studio-review-a-weird-update-but-it-mostly-works/">More from Ars Technica</a></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://9to5mac.com/2025/02/16/apple-working-on-larger-imac/">Apple is working on a larger iMac?</a> (AKA <em>John tries to save face</em>) <ul> <li><a href="https://atp.fm/473">ATP #473: Fanboats and Coattails</a> (<a href="https://overcast.fm/+R7DWJClow/1:31:16">Overcast link to 1:31:16</a>)</li> </ul></li> <li>Threads timeline setting update <ul> <li><a href="https://atp.fm/616">ATP #616: I Have No Grippers</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/2024/11/25/24305690/threads-default-following-feed-test">The Verge&#8217;s article (25 November 2024)</a></li> </ul></li> <li>Thoughts on Feedback</li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-03-10/apple-readies-dramatic-design-overhauls-for-ios-19-ipados-19-and-macos-16">Apple is allegedly &#8220;dramatically&#8221; redesigning the UI for its next OSes</a></li> <li>Post-show: John&#8217;s speaker update <ul> <li><a href="https://amzn.to/4hlDD2F">Vanatoo Transparent Zero Plus</a></li> <li><a href="https://amzn.to/3FlzNcx">ADAM Audio D3V</a></li> <li><a href="https://amzn.to/3F2GoIX">Kanto ORA</a> <ul> <li><a href="https://amzn.to/4c87IBG">Kanto S2 speaker stands</a></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://amzn.to/43nSeHz">Kanto ORA4</a> <ul> <li><a href="https://amzn.to/4bNE9VZ">Kanto S4 speaker stands</a></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://rogueamoeba.com/soundsource/">SoundSource</a></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://atp.fm/join">Members-only</a> ATP Overtime: Some Volkswagen news <ul> <li><a href="https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a64054081/vw-id-every1-concept-revealed/">VW&#8217;s ID.Every1 Concept</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/volkswagen-reintroducing-physical-controls-vital-functions">Physical buttons are coming back! 🥹</a> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.volkswagen-newsroom.com/en/press-releases/world-premiere-of-the-id-2all-concept-the-electric-car-from-volkswagen-costing-less-than-25000-euros-15625">ID.2all concept</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/626311/vw-physical-controls-buttons-coming-id-2-all">The Verge&#8217;s coverage</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.media.volvocars.com/us/en-us/models/es90/2026/pressreleases">Volvo ES90</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/5/24091043/euro-ncap-safety-rating-europe-2026-touchscreen-buttons-dials">Euro NCAP puts their foot down</a></li> </ul></li> </ul></li> </ul> <p>Sponsored by:</p> <ul> <li><a href="https://betterhelp.com/ATECHPOD">BetterHelp</a>: Give online therapy a try and get on your way to being your best self.</li> <li><a href="https://usetrmnl.com?ref=atpfm">TRMNL</a>: A hackable e-ink display.</li> </ul> <p><a href="https://atp.fm/join">Become a member</a> for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!</p>