<description>&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;🗣️ New &lt;a href="https://atp.fm/join"&gt;ATP Member&amp;#8217;s&lt;/a&gt; Special: &lt;a href="https://atp.fm/atp-diamond-dogs-talk-me-out-of-it-ii"&gt;ATP Diamond Dogs: Talk Me Out of It II&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://atp.fm/atp-diamond-dogs-talk-me-out-of-it"&gt;ATP Diamond Dogs: Talk Me Out of It&lt;/a&gt; &amp;mdash; 16 October 2023&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Follow-up:

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The origin of &amp;#8220;diamond dogs&amp;#8221; (via &lt;a href="https://mastodon.social/@jwcounts/115565279563665341"&gt;Jared Counts&lt;/a&gt;)

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond_Dogs"&gt;Wikipedia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Matte, glossy, glass, and nanotexture (via Johnny &amp;#8220;Decimal&amp;#8221; Noble)

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FN8X4VMX?tag=marcoorg-20"&gt;Paperlike&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FCVFPCNT?tag=marcoorg-20"&gt;Rock Paper Pencil&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Steam Machine

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.eurogamer.net/steam-machine-everything-we-know-about-valves-new-console#section-4"&gt;EuroGamer article about APU/GPU&lt;/a&gt; (via &lt;a href="https://mstdn.social/@dschaub/115547049426802818"&gt;DavidShaub&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PlayStation 5 OS is FreeBSD-based (via &lt;a href="https://mastodon.social/@jsnarvaez86/115548154741513118"&gt;Jesús Santaigo Narváez&lt;/a&gt;)

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Software_Distribution"&gt;Wikipedia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.psdevwiki.com/ps5/index.php?title=Kernel"&gt;PS Dev Wiki&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Steam Frame

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lenses (via &lt;a href="https://mastodon.xyz/@mi/115549064566891679"&gt;Michael&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://vr-compare.com/compare?h1=qmdzGfchi&amp;amp;h2=w8xCM-oPA&amp;amp;h3=0q3goALzg&amp;amp;h4=Odlfnpa2w"&gt;Spec chart&lt;/a&gt; (via &lt;a href="https://mastodon.social/@jamesoloughlin/115551568319809347"&gt;James O&amp;#8217;Loughlin&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://files.mastodon.social/media_attachments/files/115/551/522/905/919/935/original/20182786368e6b52.webp"&gt;Top strap image&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Steam → Apple Vision Pro using &lt;a href="https://github.com/polygraphene/ALVR"&gt;ALVR&lt;/a&gt; (via Iain Wallace)

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/VisionPro/comments/1bmn6gd/getting_started_with_alvr_on_vision_pro/"&gt;Guide on Reddit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;SteamOS

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Is not universally supported (via &lt;a href="https://mstdn.social/@dschaub/115547049426802818"&gt;DavidSchaub&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Alternatives (via &lt;a href="https://hachyderm.io/@solemnmagus/115556394684645485"&gt;solmnmagus&lt;/a&gt;)

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://bazzite.gg/"&gt;Bazzite&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://cachyos.org/"&gt;CachyOS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Anti-cheat considerations (via Julian Torres)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/823337/switching-linux-gaming-desktop-cachyos"&gt;Screw it, I&amp;#8217;m installing Linux&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Steam strategy

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Is Steam-on-ARM popular?

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey"&gt;Hardware survey&lt;/a&gt; (via &lt;a href="https://mastodon.online/@LarsBoris/115556856535258574"&gt;Lars Boris&lt;/a&gt;)

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://hachyderm.io/@avakining/115564133093497246"&gt;Additional thoughts from Ava&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Steam has only one person to answer to (via &lt;a href="https://mastodon.social/@charlesesmith/115550778970803622"&gt;charlesesmith&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.cpubenchmark.net/single-thread/"&gt;Single thread performance ranking&lt;/a&gt; (via &lt;a href="https://mastodon.social/@stevenodb/115563763703429436"&gt;Steven Op de beeck&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&amp;#8220;High-Res Antiglare&amp;#8221; (via Adam Wunn)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;John mourns &lt;a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2025-11-16/apple-s-iphone-road-map-iphone-air-2-iphone-18-mac-pro-future-tesla-carplay-mi1q4l2o"&gt;the recent news&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GPU issues (via &lt;a href="https://mastodon.social/@colincornaby/115564123209506249"&gt;Colin Cornaby&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;GeekBench Metal scores

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/compute/5222304"&gt;Mac Pro (2019) + AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/compute/5218471"&gt;Mac Studio (2025) + M3 Ultra&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://hypercritical.co/2013/03/08/the-case-for-a-true-mac-pro-successor"&gt;The Case for a True Mac Pro Successor&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Tim Cook to step down as early as next year

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/05/opinion/apples-ceo-is-making-very-different-choices-from-mark-zuckerberg.html?showTranscript=1"&gt;Tim Cook &amp;amp; Kara Swisher in 2021&lt;/a&gt; (starts at 35:51)

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;As discussed in &lt;a href="https://atp.fm/425"&gt;ATP #425: Hey Billionaire&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.ft.com/content/0d424625-f4f8-4646-9f6e-927c8cbe0e3e"&gt;Financial Times, 14 November 2025&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://daringfireball.net/linked/2025/11/15/ft-apple-tim-cook-succession"&gt;Gruber&amp;#8217;s take&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.macrumors.com/2025/11/17/tim-cook-might-not-fully-retire/"&gt;Joe Rossignol @ Mac Rumors&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://s2.q4cdn.com/470004039/files/doc_downloads/Governance/Corporate-Governance-Guidelines.pdf"&gt;Apple Corporate Governance Guidelines&lt;/a&gt;   &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Post-show: Declan discovers &amp;#8220;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperCard"&gt;HyperCard&lt;/a&gt;&amp;#8221;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rage-baiting"&gt;Rage-baiting&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://atp.fm/join"&gt;Members-only&lt;/a&gt; ATP Overtime: &lt;a href="https://apps.apple.com/"&gt;The App Store on the web&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://sixcolors.com/post/2025/11/the-app-store-now-has-a-pretty-sweet-solution-for-the-web/"&gt;Dan Moren @ Six Colors&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://mjtsai.com/blog/2025/11/03/web-version-of-the-app-store/"&gt;MJ Tsai&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/webdev/comments/1onnzlj/app_store_web_has_exposed_all_its_source_code/"&gt;Apple shipped its source maps&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://svelte.dev/"&gt;Svelte&lt;/a&gt;    &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;See also: &lt;a href="https://maps.apple.com/"&gt;Apple Maps on the web&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2024/07/apple-maps-on-the-web-launches-in-beta/"&gt;Announcement&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;See also: &lt;a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/"&gt;Apple Podcasts on the web&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.macrumors.com/2024/08/19/apple-podcasts-now-available-on-the-web/"&gt;Juli Clover @ MacRumors&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sponsored by:&lt;/p&gt;

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</description>

Accidental Tech Podcast

Marco Arment, Casey Liss, John Siracusa

666: We Have Nothing That Hot

NOV 20, 2025101 MIN
Accidental Tech Podcast

666: We Have Nothing That Hot

NOV 20, 2025101 MIN

Description

<ul> <li>🗣️ New <a href="https://atp.fm/join">ATP Member&#8217;s</a> Special: <a href="https://atp.fm/atp-diamond-dogs-talk-me-out-of-it-ii">ATP Diamond Dogs: Talk Me Out of It II</a> <ul> <li><a href="https://atp.fm/atp-diamond-dogs-talk-me-out-of-it">ATP Diamond Dogs: Talk Me Out of It</a> &mdash; 16 October 2023</li> </ul></li> <li>Follow-up: <ul> <li>The origin of &#8220;diamond dogs&#8221; (via <a href="https://mastodon.social/@jwcounts/115565279563665341">Jared Counts</a>) <ul> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond_Dogs">Wikipedia</a></li> </ul></li> <li>Matte, glossy, glass, and nanotexture (via Johnny &#8220;Decimal&#8221; Noble) <ul> <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FN8X4VMX?tag=marcoorg-20">Paperlike</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FCVFPCNT?tag=marcoorg-20">Rock Paper Pencil</a></li> </ul></li> <li>Steam Machine <ul> <li><a href="https://www.eurogamer.net/steam-machine-everything-we-know-about-valves-new-console#section-4">EuroGamer article about APU/GPU</a> (via <a href="https://mstdn.social/@dschaub/115547049426802818">DavidShaub</a>)</li> </ul></li> <li>PlayStation 5 OS is FreeBSD-based (via <a href="https://mastodon.social/@jsnarvaez86/115548154741513118">Jesús Santaigo Narváez</a>) <ul> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Software_Distribution">Wikipedia</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.psdevwiki.com/ps5/index.php?title=Kernel">PS Dev Wiki</a></li> </ul></li> <li>Steam Frame <ul> <li>Lenses (via <a href="https://mastodon.xyz/@mi/115549064566891679">Michael</a>)</li> <li><a href="https://vr-compare.com/compare?h1=qmdzGfchi&amp;h2=w8xCM-oPA&amp;h3=0q3goALzg&amp;h4=Odlfnpa2w">Spec chart</a> (via <a href="https://mastodon.social/@jamesoloughlin/115551568319809347">James O&#8217;Loughlin</a>)</li> <li><a href="https://files.mastodon.social/media_attachments/files/115/551/522/905/919/935/original/20182786368e6b52.webp">Top strap image</a></li> <li>Steam → Apple Vision Pro using <a href="https://github.com/polygraphene/ALVR">ALVR</a> (via Iain Wallace) <ul> <li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/VisionPro/comments/1bmn6gd/getting_started_with_alvr_on_vision_pro/">Guide on Reddit</a></li> </ul></li> </ul></li> <li>SteamOS <ul> <li>Is not universally supported (via <a href="https://mstdn.social/@dschaub/115547049426802818">DavidSchaub</a>)</li> <li>Alternatives (via <a href="https://hachyderm.io/@solemnmagus/115556394684645485">solmnmagus</a>) <ul> <li><a href="https://bazzite.gg/">Bazzite</a></li> <li><a href="https://cachyos.org/">CachyOS</a></li> </ul></li> <li>Anti-cheat considerations (via Julian Torres)</li> <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/tech/823337/switching-linux-gaming-desktop-cachyos">Screw it, I&#8217;m installing Linux</a></li> </ul></li> <li>Steam strategy <ul> <li>Is Steam-on-ARM popular? <ul> <li><a href="https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey">Hardware survey</a> (via <a href="https://mastodon.online/@LarsBoris/115556856535258574">Lars Boris</a>) <ul> <li><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@avakining/115564133093497246">Additional thoughts from Ava</a></li> </ul></li> </ul></li> <li>Steam has only one person to answer to (via <a href="https://mastodon.social/@charlesesmith/115550778970803622">charlesesmith</a>)</li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://www.cpubenchmark.net/single-thread/">Single thread performance ranking</a> (via <a href="https://mastodon.social/@stevenodb/115563763703429436">Steven Op de beeck</a>)</li> <li>&#8220;High-Res Antiglare&#8221; (via Adam Wunn)</li> </ul></li> <li>John mourns <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2025-11-16/apple-s-iphone-road-map-iphone-air-2-iphone-18-mac-pro-future-tesla-carplay-mi1q4l2o">the recent news</a> <ul> <li>GPU issues (via <a href="https://mastodon.social/@colincornaby/115564123209506249">Colin Cornaby</a>)</li> <li>GeekBench Metal scores <ul> <li><a href="https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/compute/5222304">Mac Pro (2019) + AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT</a></li> <li><a href="https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/compute/5218471">Mac Studio (2025) + M3 Ultra</a></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://hypercritical.co/2013/03/08/the-case-for-a-true-mac-pro-successor">The Case for a True Mac Pro Successor</a></li> </ul></li> <li>Tim Cook to step down as early as next year <ul> <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/05/opinion/apples-ceo-is-making-very-different-choices-from-mark-zuckerberg.html?showTranscript=1">Tim Cook &amp; Kara Swisher in 2021</a> (starts at 35:51) <ul> <li>As discussed in <a href="https://atp.fm/425">ATP #425: Hey Billionaire</a></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://www.ft.com/content/0d424625-f4f8-4646-9f6e-927c8cbe0e3e">Financial Times, 14 November 2025</a></li> <li><a href="https://daringfireball.net/linked/2025/11/15/ft-apple-tim-cook-succession">Gruber&#8217;s take</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.macrumors.com/2025/11/17/tim-cook-might-not-fully-retire/">Joe Rossignol @ Mac Rumors</a> <ul> <li><a href="https://s2.q4cdn.com/470004039/files/doc_downloads/Governance/Corporate-Governance-Guidelines.pdf">Apple Corporate Governance Guidelines</a> </li> </ul></li> </ul></li> <li>Post-show: Declan discovers &#8220;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperCard">HyperCard</a>&#8221; <ul> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rage-baiting">Rage-baiting</a></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://atp.fm/join">Members-only</a> ATP Overtime: <a href="https://apps.apple.com/">The App Store on the web</a> <ul> <li><a href="https://sixcolors.com/post/2025/11/the-app-store-now-has-a-pretty-sweet-solution-for-the-web/">Dan Moren @ Six Colors</a></li> <li><a href="https://mjtsai.com/blog/2025/11/03/web-version-of-the-app-store/">MJ Tsai</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/webdev/comments/1onnzlj/app_store_web_has_exposed_all_its_source_code/">Apple shipped its source maps</a> <ul> <li><a href="https://svelte.dev/">Svelte</a> </li> </ul></li> <li>See also: <a href="https://maps.apple.com/">Apple Maps on the web</a> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2024/07/apple-maps-on-the-web-launches-in-beta/">Announcement</a></li> </ul></li> <li>See also: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/">Apple Podcasts on the web</a> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.macrumors.com/2024/08/19/apple-podcasts-now-available-on-the-web/">Juli Clover @ MacRumors</a></li> </ul></li> </ul></li> </ul> <p>Sponsored by:</p> <ul> <li><a href="https://joindeleteme.com/ATP">DeleteMe</a>: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online.</li> <li><a href="https://squarespace.com/atp">Squarespace</a>: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code <strong>atp</strong>.</li> <li><a href="https://www.skims.com/">SKIMS</a>: Comfortable underwear, socks, t-shirts, leggings &amp; more.</li> </ul> <p><a href="https://atp.fm/join">Become a member</a> for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!</p>