<description>&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Pre-show: Marco HVAC update

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.daikin.com"&gt;Daikin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.trane.com/index.html"&gt;Trane&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08JP39RLP?tag=marcoorg-20"&gt;YoLink temperature sensors&lt;/a&gt; (or &lt;a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B5GPM54S?tag=marcoorg-20"&gt;this one with a wider temp. range&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084WYB8PM?tag=marcoorg-20"&gt;YoLink leak sensors&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LoRa"&gt;LoRa&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;🗣️ New &lt;a href="https://atp.fm/join"&gt;ATP Member&amp;#8217;s Special&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;a href="https://atp.fm/atp-insider-after-apple"&gt;ATP Insider: After Apple&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Follow-up: 

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Units corner

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBd7_uxrq6c"&gt;Robert Tait&amp;#8217;s video&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrwvIKK3D2o"&gt;WarGames display reincarnated&lt;/a&gt; (via everyone)

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://atp.fm/atp-movie-club-wargames"&gt;ATP Movie Club: WarGames&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://callsheetapp.com/movie/860"&gt;WarGames&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;AI

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Whoops, we whiffed on disclosing past/future sponsors 🤦🏻‍♂️&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://mastodon.social/@stroughtonsmith/116018205506714527"&gt;Steve Troughton-Smith&amp;#8217;s experimentations&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://mastodon.social/@stroughtonsmith/116014270900193494"&gt;Three apps in one day&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://mastodon.social/@stroughtonsmith/116008952067084300"&gt;On usage limits&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dread &amp;amp; fatalism

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://nolanlawson.com/2026/02/07/we-mourn-our-craft/"&gt;We Mourn Our Craft by Nolan Lawson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://dimillian.medium.com/the-tipping-point-d624283cbd6d"&gt;The Tipping Point by Thomas Ricouard&lt;/a&gt; (Medium link 🤢)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Productivity promise vs. reality

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.anthropic.com/research/AI-assistance-coding-skills"&gt;Anthropic study&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://metr.org/blog/2025-07-10-early-2025-ai-experienced-os-dev-study/"&gt;Experienced developers are slower?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Generative-AI-in-Real-World-Workplaces.pdf"&gt;Microsoft study&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://atlassianblog.wpengine.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/atlassian-ai-collaboration-report-2025.pdf"&gt;Atlassian study&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://cmr.berkeley.edu/2025/10/seven-myths-about-ai-and-productivity-what-the-evidence-really-says/"&gt;Berkeley: AI adoption ≠ productivity gains&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://hbr.org/2025/09/ai-generated-workslop-is-destroying-productivity"&gt;Harvard: Slop hinders productivity&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.artificialintelligence-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ai_report_2025.pdf"&gt;MIT: 95% of businesses see zero returns&lt;/a&gt; (PDF)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.fast.ai/posts/2026-01-28-dark-flow/"&gt;Breaking the Spell of Vibe Coding by Rachel Thomas&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://agilepainrelief.com/blog/ai-generated-code-quality-problems/"&gt;AI-Generated Code Quality by Mark Levison&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://shekhar14.medium.com/comprehension-debt-the-ticking-time-bomb-of-llm-generated-code-b8025e7f132a"&gt;Comprehension Debt by Aman Shekhar&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/2506.08872"&gt;Your Brain on ChatGPT by Nataliya Kosmyna et al&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Some related links from our AI conversation:

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://n8n.io"&gt;n8n&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://stratechery.com/2026/an-interview-with-benedict-evans-about-ai-and-software/"&gt;Stratechery interview with Benedict Evans&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_(occupation)"&gt;Computer (occupation)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memento_mori"&gt;Memento mori&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://store.steampowered.com/news/group/45479024/view/625565405086220583"&gt;Steam Machine &amp;amp; Steam Frame delayed due to component shortages/price increases&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/auto/ferrari-luce"&gt;Ferrari Luce&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/transportation/875799/ferrari-luce-jony-ive-interior-design-photos"&gt;Andrew J. Hawkins at The Verge&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Wv1btxCjVE"&gt;Walkthrough video with Jordan Golon at PRNDL&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.prndlcars.com/p/what-they-copied-ferrari-luce-jony-ive"&gt;Associated post&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dieter_Rams"&gt;Dieter Rams&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patek_Philippe#Nautilus_wristwatch"&gt;Patek Philippe Nautilus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braun_(company)"&gt;Braun&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.gordonmurrayautomotive.com/automotive/t50"&gt;Gordon Murray Automotive Type 50&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOq-flI0Hx8&amp;amp;t=18m4s"&gt;Shift knob &amp;amp; switchgear&lt;/a&gt; (timestamp link to 18:04)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/@GordonMurrayAutomotive/videos"&gt;Other videos&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leica_Camera"&gt;Leica&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Post-show: Casey is car shopping

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_Taycan"&gt;Porsche Taycan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audi_e-tron_GT"&gt;Audi e-tron GT&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_i4"&gt;BMW i4&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://rivian.com/r3"&gt;Rivian R3&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whxVXtBIpHY"&gt;How the second-gen Porsche Taycan is better than the first-gen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://atp.fm/join"&gt;Members-only&lt;/a&gt; ATP Overtime: &lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/transportation/873039/china-ban-hidden-tesla-door-handles-january-2027"&gt;China&amp;#8217;s ban on electric door handles&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theverge.com/transportation/873039/china-ban-hidden-tesla-door-handles-january-2027"&gt;Tesla hit with another wrongful death suit by Andrew J. Hawkins&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://arstechnica.com/cars/2025/09/flush-door-handles-are-the-car-industrys-latest-safety-problem/"&gt;Flush door handles &amp;amp; efficiency by Jonathan M. Gitlin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sponsored by:&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://joindeleteme.com/ATP"&gt;DeleteMe&lt;/a&gt;: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://atp.fm/join"&gt;Become a member&lt;/a&gt; for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!&lt;/p&gt;
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Accidental Tech Podcast

Marco Arment, Casey Liss, John Siracusa

678: Mentoring a Box of Numbers

FEB 12, 2026154 MIN
Accidental Tech Podcast

678: Mentoring a Box of Numbers

FEB 12, 2026154 MIN

Description

<ul> <li>Pre-show: Marco HVAC update <ul> <li><a href="https://www.daikin.com">Daikin</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.trane.com/index.html">Trane</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08JP39RLP?tag=marcoorg-20">YoLink temperature sensors</a> (or <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B5GPM54S?tag=marcoorg-20">this one with a wider temp. range</a>)</li> <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084WYB8PM?tag=marcoorg-20">YoLink leak sensors</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LoRa">LoRa</a></li> </ul></li> <li>🗣️ New <a href="https://atp.fm/join">ATP Member&#8217;s Special</a>: <a href="https://atp.fm/atp-insider-after-apple">ATP Insider: After Apple</a></li> <li>Follow-up: <ul> <li>Units corner <ul> <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBd7_uxrq6c">Robert Tait&#8217;s video</a></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrwvIKK3D2o">WarGames display reincarnated</a> (via everyone) <ul> <li><a href="https://atp.fm/atp-movie-club-wargames">ATP Movie Club: WarGames</a></li> <li><a href="https://callsheetapp.com/movie/860">WarGames</a></li> </ul></li> <li>AI <ul> <li>Whoops, we whiffed on disclosing past/future sponsors 🤦🏻‍♂️</li> <li><a href="https://mastodon.social/@stroughtonsmith/116018205506714527">Steve Troughton-Smith&#8217;s experimentations</a> <ul> <li><a href="https://mastodon.social/@stroughtonsmith/116014270900193494">Three apps in one day</a></li> <li><a href="https://mastodon.social/@stroughtonsmith/116008952067084300">On usage limits</a></li> </ul></li> <li>Dread &amp; fatalism <ul> <li><a href="https://nolanlawson.com/2026/02/07/we-mourn-our-craft/">We Mourn Our Craft by Nolan Lawson</a></li> <li><a href="https://dimillian.medium.com/the-tipping-point-d624283cbd6d">The Tipping Point by Thomas Ricouard</a> (Medium link 🤢)</li> </ul></li> <li>Productivity promise vs. reality <ul> <li><a href="https://www.anthropic.com/research/AI-assistance-coding-skills">Anthropic study</a></li> <li><a href="https://metr.org/blog/2025-07-10-early-2025-ai-experienced-os-dev-study/">Experienced developers are slower?</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Generative-AI-in-Real-World-Workplaces.pdf">Microsoft study</a></li> <li><a href="https://atlassianblog.wpengine.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/atlassian-ai-collaboration-report-2025.pdf">Atlassian study</a></li> <li><a href="https://cmr.berkeley.edu/2025/10/seven-myths-about-ai-and-productivity-what-the-evidence-really-says/">Berkeley: AI adoption ≠ productivity gains</a></li> <li><a href="https://hbr.org/2025/09/ai-generated-workslop-is-destroying-productivity">Harvard: Slop hinders productivity</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.artificialintelligence-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ai_report_2025.pdf">MIT: 95% of businesses see zero returns</a> (PDF)</li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://www.fast.ai/posts/2026-01-28-dark-flow/">Breaking the Spell of Vibe Coding by Rachel Thomas</a></li> <li><a href="https://agilepainrelief.com/blog/ai-generated-code-quality-problems/">AI-Generated Code Quality by Mark Levison</a></li> <li><a href="https://shekhar14.medium.com/comprehension-debt-the-ticking-time-bomb-of-llm-generated-code-b8025e7f132a">Comprehension Debt by Aman Shekhar</a></li> <li><a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/2506.08872">Your Brain on ChatGPT by Nataliya Kosmyna et al</a></li> </ul></li> <li>Some related links from our AI conversation: <ul> <li><a href="https://n8n.io">n8n</a></li> <li><a href="https://stratechery.com/2026/an-interview-with-benedict-evans-about-ai-and-software/">Stratechery interview with Benedict Evans</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_(occupation)">Computer (occupation)</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memento_mori">Memento mori</a></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://store.steampowered.com/news/group/45479024/view/625565405086220583">Steam Machine &amp; Steam Frame delayed due to component shortages/price increases</a></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/auto/ferrari-luce">Ferrari Luce</a> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/transportation/875799/ferrari-luce-jony-ive-interior-design-photos">Andrew J. Hawkins at The Verge</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Wv1btxCjVE">Walkthrough video with Jordan Golon at PRNDL</a> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.prndlcars.com/p/what-they-copied-ferrari-luce-jony-ive">Associated post</a></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dieter_Rams">Dieter Rams</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patek_Philippe#Nautilus_wristwatch">Patek Philippe Nautilus</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braun_(company)">Braun</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.gordonmurrayautomotive.com/automotive/t50">Gordon Murray Automotive Type 50</a> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOq-flI0Hx8&amp;t=18m4s">Shift knob &amp; switchgear</a> (timestamp link to 18:04)</li> <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@GordonMurrayAutomotive/videos">Other videos</a></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leica_Camera">Leica</a></li> </ul></li> <li>Post-show: Casey is car shopping <ul> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_Taycan">Porsche Taycan</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audi_e-tron_GT">Audi e-tron GT</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_i4">BMW i4</a></li> <li><a href="https://rivian.com/r3">Rivian R3</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whxVXtBIpHY">How the second-gen Porsche Taycan is better than the first-gen</a></li> </ul></li> <li><a href="https://atp.fm/join">Members-only</a> ATP Overtime: <a href="https://www.theverge.com/transportation/873039/china-ban-hidden-tesla-door-handles-january-2027">China&#8217;s ban on electric door handles</a> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/transportation/873039/china-ban-hidden-tesla-door-handles-january-2027">Tesla hit with another wrongful death suit by Andrew J. Hawkins</a></li> <li><a href="https://arstechnica.com/cars/2025/09/flush-door-handles-are-the-car-industrys-latest-safety-problem/">Flush door handles &amp; efficiency by Jonathan M. Gitlin</a></li> </ul></li> </ul> <p>Sponsored by:</p> <ul> <li><a href="https://squarespace.com/atp">Squarespace</a>: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code <strong>atp</strong>.</li> <li><a href="https://quince.com/atp">Quince</a>: Elevated essentials and staples that last.</li> <li><a href="https://joindeleteme.com/ATP">DeleteMe</a>: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online.</li> </ul> <p><a href="https://atp.fm/join">Become a member</a> for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!</p>